Leeds Banter Archive January 07 2018

07 Jan 2018 23:33:26
Morning all didn't see the game. Just as well. It seems we are all uniting on several points. If the players given their chance to shine last night didn't take it, then we shouldn't keep them. Most of them don't get too much league time, so should have been chomping at the bit to prove themselves. Klich, lassoga, grot, bcj, cblicki, anita, should all be moved on or back to where they come from. Also bit concerned about building for the future. If current crop are anything to go by, who says what we have bought for the future are any better. Lots of players come through top teams academies and then end up in lower leagues etc. shame about saiz getting sent off. We will miss him badly and will struggle for next 3-6 games. Finally. Nice guy tc. And i think he has done his best. But his best is not and will not be good enough to get top 6 finish this year. Radz has a lot of hard decisions to make. Starting with shipping tc out and having a good look at orta too. Without three solid buys now, we are mid table finish.

08 Jan 2018 00:02:22
Ausman fully behind you with this post should have gone a long time ago.

08 Jan 2018 07:18:00
TC needs to show his ability to command players, personally really like him but don't think he has stepped up enough in an individual man management process. The only difference i see in the way that this whole team plays from monks transformation last year is that he has brought in a bit more flair to our wingers. With all the signings made, i am finally in agreement with all of those doubters, on the whole recruitment has been poor. First of all, Polands midfield must be shite, secondly, signing some knock off skinny ibrahimovic who is yet to find the net is pathetic, cheap david silva will soon be on his way to watford or wolves or newcastle, lumpa get out of my club i don't pay to watch your horror shows. You all know i'm forever an optimist, but if you cannot beat a league 2 outfit which were beaten 5-1 by the same team in august, 2 things come to mind. 1 - you deserve to be league 2 or lower, secondly, you're lazy and could not be arsed to show that you want to take your opportunities seriously. If i was a jack clarke sat on that bench yesterday seeing 2 strikers who could not care less, and not being given an opportunity in a game which does not matter, i'd be seriously doubting the managers faith. 1 week in and we've signed a finnish youth team CB, and have a midfielder we already knew about. If you can field 11 winners by the end of the year and go into next season with the same 11, with the same goal, its something to work from. Right now i see 6 winners in our team and 7 players eager for greater things. The 5 being phillips, vieira, berardi, pontus and ayling. If you think there are more than this i'd like to know who, but this is the bare minimum, interesting that these same 6 were the core under monk last year too. The seventh who is destined for greater than this current mediocre team is obviously saiz, i'm waiting for the day the transfer request is handed in. MOT boys we should never turn on our players but when they turn on you and cannot be arsed to do what they're paid for i think that's called getting the sack.

08 Jan 2018 07:41:43
Flair from the wingers? . I must have missed that! . what games are you watching, the wingers are useless

08 Jan 2018 11:17:35
nto yesterday in particular but alioski and hernandez have stepped up. sacko is league 1, cibicki isn't good enough, agreed. Ekuban, roofe, lassoga is what we have to work with up front, IMO, embarrasing. chris martin or prijovic please.

07 Jan 2018 22:12:18
Corkwhite mate, nobody is jumping on any bandwagon! Do you really think Mezzer, Whiteman, Bige, Alf, Ausman me and many others true Leeds fans like what is happening to our club? Please don’t think for one minute that we like posting negative crap because we don’t, but if we are going to be honest and true to ourselves, it really is not good enough!

It’s all well and good filling the u23’s with future talent but it’s time we had some quality in the first team! Do you really think Lasogga is worth his £50 grand a week? Is Grot worth putting in front of Roofe? We are not playing well and we haven’t been playing well for months, we can’t pretend anymore, even if we win next week and the week after it doesn’t mean anything!

If we can’t beat Newport with players who are on a hell of a lot more than there players then something is a miss! I would of been as upset if we had played well and lost but we didn’t! No shape, no foresight, no skill, no heart, and no idea. I think TC is out of his depth as are most of our players! Sorry Corkwhite and others but we really need a change, in many areas.

08 Jan 2018 00:04:52
Mikewoody direst post again mate CW doesn’t get mate don’t worry about it some just haven’t got it.

08 Jan 2018 06:58:49
Why wouldn't winning our next few games not make a difference

07 Jan 2018 20:36:32
1st 11 may have struggled today ok Pontus and Cooper would have won most of the battles in the box but would we have won midfield ? And would our lightweight forwards have bothered them. Not so sure

07 Jan 2018 19:27:49
Isn't it funny how many jump on the bandwagon after a poor result? There's been more negative comments after this defeat with a reserve team than positve comments after any win this season. While I agree the likes of lassogo and cbj look like a waste of time the squad ain't a million miles off. Get in a striker with pace movement strength and obviously a few goals and we be thereabouts. Personally I wouldn't believe TCs comments about being ok for forwards.

07 Jan 2018 20:38:13
and a goalie

07 Jan 2018 20:44:13
Not jumping on the band wagon been saying it for awhile. Have you not witnessed how poor we are playing, even when we won a few the team been playing poor. Is it a crime to want us to strengthen and at least try to push on. It's very well building a squad that maybe might come good in the future, but we can be in with a shout now will a bit of strengthening. Sorry to jump on the band wagon but have seen this time and time again.

07 Jan 2018 21:11:43
We shall see how strong the squad is with Saiz missing for potentially six games.

07 Jan 2018 21:12:19
Don't think it's as straightforward as that mate. Don't make every match but we have scraped a few lucky wins when been outplayed recently. You could say that's the mark of a good team, maybe so in the odd game but not when it keeps happening. Specifically today, I think there's a general feeling of frustration that we've been embarrassed again in round 3 by a lower league team; as against Sutton last year we made wholesale changes and paid the price, despite the fact we don't play again until next weekend.

Today, Forest played a strong team and are through, Spurs rested a few but still had Kane, Dembele, Lamela, Vertonghen and other strong players in their line up and they've still got Champions League and Prem ambitions to consider. I think our first 11 is not a million miles off as you say, if you mean a play off place (the club's stated target) but we lack strength in depth.

For example, if Saiz is out for 6 matches as has been suggested, where is the creativity to come from? Most of the recruitment has been for the development teams with youngsters from top european academies, but even if this does pay off, it could be several years before one or two make the breakthrough. Meanwhile the £20m from the Wood and Taylor sales which we would like to see spent on proven battle hardened players who can perform in this division remains unspent.

If there is a 1/3/5 year plan then great, we've been out the top flight for 14 years, so what's a few more but sometimes you have to wonder. As someone posted, seems like Groundhog Day again and again. Enough said, going for a few beers. ALAW

07 Jan 2018 22:33:09
What a load of bull its obvious what we need, sorry bud.

07 Jan 2018 22:39:38
Jeez you can't compare Leeds squad to Spurs.

08 Jan 2018 00:21:38
Wish some would jump of this bandwagon and see the wood trough the trees,

08 Jan 2018 00:11:25
Trouble is it was not a reserve team was it. Everyone who played is in the first team squad. If the young lads had been blooded would not have minded so much, would have had more fight than the team that was out there.

08 Jan 2018 00:15:29
If you can’t believe his comments about a striker your not a Leeds fan

08 Jan 2018 10:27:10
Love it when the "you're not a Leeds fan" insult rears its ugly head. 😂😂🤔🤔🤔

07 Jan 2018 19:11:52
TC says 'we weren't good enough' no s*** Sherlock, so my question to him is what are u going to do about it

08 Jan 2018 00:11:27
He’s going to buy more rubbish and waste more of our money the man hasn’t a clue

08 Jan 2018 00:13:00
Richie’s he’s going to ask Dr Watson, or maybe look at his PowerPoint for the answer,

07 Jan 2018 18:24:07
Sorry guys did a post earlier and i am one to give a chance to people but here's a vote front. Is it up yes or down no. Mine is no he is just not good enough at this present time. Totally peed off right now at that performance.

07 Jan 2018 17:45:04
Forest a team who many on here said we're lucky to get a point against us a week ago, are looking like putting the holders Arsenal out. Just shows what a team who want it can do, they are struggling in the league yet put out a full strength team out. Not short changing their loyal fans.

07 Jan 2018 17:31:07
Some great footage of the 1972 Leeds v Arsenal FA cup final post match interviews:

07 Jan 2018 16:44:48
The hurt is not over. Wait til Monday when Newport draw ManU, City or Chelsea in the next round.

07 Jan 2018 17:22:13
Well whoever Newport get in the next round good luck to them as they will put up a better fight that Leeds would of done!

07 Jan 2018 15:40:27
That was pants, but not much worse than we have played in the last few games. I could have played better than some of them today and I have two left feet at the end of legs that look as if I have got rickets and they have to carry a paunch the size of Africa and i am talking about the continent not the country. I pity all of ours who travelled all of that way and paid to watch that performance. on a separate note couldn't hear commentary in pub, what was Saiz sent off for, he looked a tad displeased with the decision.

07 Jan 2018 15:46:15
Apparently sent off for spitting. If so, absolutely disgusting, despicable behaviour.

07 Jan 2018 15:54:50
No excuse for that.

07 Jan 2018 16:03:42
Just seen a few reports that softlad was sent off for spitting . automatic 3-game ban but I'm expecting at least a 6-game ban, and it serves him right.

07 Jan 2018 16:27:20
Saiz should be suspended for rest of the season. PERIOD!

07 Jan 2018 15:39:11
I watched up till 60minute Mark. Then had to go to mother in laws for dinner. So based on what I saw both Grot and Lesogga are absolute pants. BWJ just thinks he should be playing at Old Trafford. I’m not too bothered about the result. The pitch was awful and made a poor quality game. Let’s not all get despondent about this result. It’s not a true reflection of where we are. We’re never going to win the thing so we don’t have to worry about injuries from a cup run. We do need a striker though. Oh congratulations to Beradi. Pleased for him.

07 Jan 2018 16:07:22
I think it is a fairly accurate reflection of where we are to be honest, we haven't played well for a long long time now, and have scraped through games, most games we have won recently the opposition have had far more attempts on goal than us, we create very little at all, we are desperate for a forward, a winger than can beat a man regularly and put balls in the box and a centre mid player to play at the side of viera who can get in the oppositions box and chip in with some goals

07 Jan 2018 15:09:11
Whiteman and Mezzer have be saying how poor we have been for ages, but a lot said we should not be getting on their backs, more support needed! Well what do you think now? This performance was on a par if not worse than when we lost to Rochdale, we were dross today, we had 3 strikers on and we would of been better playing Roofe in his own up front! We have a weak squad and this proves it, we need quality solid signings, I’m sick of saying never mind next two years, we can build that up when we have mastered the Championship, time to get it right! Radz, Orta and TC sort it out!

07 Jan 2018 15:44:16
Hi all
The mistakes are far more fundamental. Wrong manager with irrelevant experience for the world's toughest/physical league who persuaded the owners with a powerpoint presentation, wrong buying policy for the league and another from Japan for God's sake, quantity instead of quality. remember Leeds are a one-city team, the 3rd largest in the UK. the correct loanee policy, and the fact that ex-premiership players are a big draw and motivator mixed with Championship experience and achievement. The season's lost. smell the coffee guys!

07 Jan 2018 16:20:24
Metissekit, At last someone who is telling it as it really is, excellent post totally agree.

07 Jan 2018 16:34:15
Metissekit, GREAT post mate, right all the way, but some will still say your WRONG!

07 Jan 2018 22:16:32
I so wish I was wrong and this is NOT a knee jerk reaction, it is calm and rational The Championship is a gruelling slog, needing strong bodies and resolute minds. it just does. The kind of player that succeeds here is Zamora who fought for every ball and was often ruthless, experienced and NOT tippy-tappy football. Once you get into the Premiership, get quality players in and move the tactics along. Look at Wolves now. nowhere last year and practically invincible now. Hardly the kind of team where stylish football abounds IMO, but money well spent and carefully planned. they'll go up. Leeds wont. :-(

07 Jan 2018 14:59:41
Another waste of an FA cup run opportunity. Too many of the fringe players are not good enough/don't care enough, or both. Only 2 top class players in the squad, Saiz and Jansson, with a few promising ones, incl Vieira, Coyle, Alioski (still learning about championship) , possibly Philips, though the jury's still out. We are a position 8-10 team by my reckoning and unless we recruit urgently, can see us falling short of the playoffs again this year. Need keeper, left back, consistent midfield schemer and striker as a minimum.

07 Jan 2018 15:08:21
Not going to happen sadly, TC and co are blinded by the shite! If our club was a movie it would be ground hog day.

07 Jan 2018 15:29:49
Good post Mezzer, although isn’t Blinded By The Shite a song? Maybe we should sing that instead of Marching on to nowhere!

07 Jan 2018 15:40:39
Plus another centre half when Pontus has gone in the next 3 week.

07 Jan 2018 14:39:58
Either that team of players did not want to win or were not good enough to win. Either way urgent discussions are needed to determine people out and people in. For pities sake stop buying quantity, now, stop buying for the future. Get real, bite the bullet, get rid of the dross with more out than in. Buy quality only from now on. Quality that will survive in the Premier league is also an investment in the future.

07 Jan 2018 14:34:48
Well that was pathetic. Grot needs game time with u23 or loan or go. Anita and Klich rubbish. Lassoga and BJ not bothered about Leeds. Sacko learning nothing. Once again half the team playing out of position, managers fault. Pearce is 10 times better than BJ and committed to Leeds. Poor choices by TC and no passion from most of the players. Shows that you need players with passion and loanees from other clubs do not have it and older fringe players don't either. Disgrace today. let's hope we don't take this form to Ipswich.

07 Jan 2018 14:25:24
We must get rid of a few of these players to free up wages for a quality signing.

07 Jan 2018 14:22:23
Nobody covered themselves in glory today, in fact a lot of them proved why they are fringe players. It was easy to find our man of the match, after Berardi they were all very average. You could point to their ploughed field called a pitch but it was far more than that. Heart and Desire. I cannot blame TC, on paper we should have beaten Newport if the majority of our team had actually turned up. My commiserations go to the poor supporters who paid good money to travel to Wales and had to watch that. The one silver lining now is the ability to concentrate on the league with no distractions.

07 Jan 2018 14:35:16
Cannot blame TC! Many on this site have been saying the squad not strong enough . Found that today!

07 Jan 2018 15:00:57
I have mixed feelings on TC today. The team, on paper, should have been enough to overcome a mid table league two outfit. It was not his fault that nobody gave them any heart. Where is the mighty Oz when you need him. What is a stand out complaint is his substitution decision. What, in heavens name, could be acheived by putting a skillfull ball playing forward on to a pitch straight out of the 60s. This is cup tie football, grit and determination in abundance required.

07 Jan 2018 15:13:01
Maybe TC thought the pitch was made from paper, and the moon from cheese!

07 Jan 2018 14:12:16
TC - another huge mistake. I said when he brought on Saiz it was a massive error. Nothing to gain at the time. Up against a physical team, bumpy pitch. What might happen? He won't make much of an impact - not his sort of game and he didn't. He could get injured and we lose him at this important part of the season. We still lose him. Players like him can't deal with the physical/ niggly type of play he was up against. We still lose him. Stupid. I can't believe a manager would make that sort of ridiculous error. It's not losing the game it's losing the player. It shows we have a shallow squad and a head coach who has a lot to learn.

07 Jan 2018 14:19:31
Agree he's I've just posted a similiar post absolute schoolboy stuff

07 Jan 2018 14:21:56
The blame lies with saiz can't keep his head

07 Jan 2018 14:23:45
Agree Hess a pointless substitution

07 Jan 2018 14:24:44
TC is totally naive. If he believes his squad, particularly his backup strikers are good enough he will also be totally deluded

07 Jan 2018 14:05:13
Total fares of a display, clearly proves we have no strength in depth! This season starting to mirror last season. Now also lost our best player for 3 games. What a joke.

07 Jan 2018 14:15:59
Farce, farce!

07 Jan 2018 14:19:33
we played two strikers over 6ft and couldn't win a ball in the air phillips was crushed by the goal scorer mirrored what it looked like other than baradi it was men against boys .

07 Jan 2018 13:59:35
Awful shambles of a display . well done Newport deserved win. Leeds prove once again they have a very shallow panel. Saiz that was really stupid .3 game ban now.

07 Jan 2018 14:03:45
What did he do

07 Jan 2018 14:46:53
Spitting on a player. Dirty disgusting wee rat. No we’re in the game fir that. Lowest thing can do on a pitch to a fellow player.

07 Jan 2018 14:48:22
What was the red card for?

07 Jan 2018 13:55:02
Don't think I'm exaggerating to say. Apart from beradi. Every player on that team today was embarrassing to wear the great shirt off Leeds United . no urgency no heart no balls. Disgraceful bunch off clowns.

07 Jan 2018 13:51:28
Lassoga stood in the box didn't even jump

07 Jan 2018 13:46:24
Lassoga what does this guy offer

07 Jan 2018 14:11:59
Honestly. Absolutely nothing. He is rubbish.

07 Jan 2018 13:40:38
Truly shocked that TC as a credible striker in his day played at a very high level considers we have enough (good enough) strike force for this season. Even before their equaliser I genuinely cannot see us scoring a goal. Think it’s right to have picked this lineup just a shame so few look like they want to play. As others have said, we will get more benefits trying out the under 23’s than this!

07 Jan 2018 13:15:06
Berardi = legend. At ft I'm going in the Aire 💙👍⚽️

07 Jan 2018 12:55:20
Great to see Berardi on scoresheet, he is typical Leeds player 100% man.

07 Jan 2018 12:23:40
Maybe today seeing our 2 strikers will make TC realise we are 100% in need off strikers ⚽️⚽️⚽️😃. MOT

07 Jan 2018 12:55:30
Hope so Battymatty, Grot doesn't offer much, Lassogga struggling to stay on his feet. We need a decent forward or I worry we will call short again in the play off push.

07 Jan 2018 12:16:07
Berardi 1-0 Did the away boys go in the pitch?

07 Jan 2018 12:09:58
not sure on TC but love what he has done today Berdi as captain is great choice and will make sure players don't slack, also love the idea or him at CB this could be the future for him imo, as good player but not good enough to be replace aling and not a left back imagine if he becomes a great CB? love the mix of youth and experience giving fringe players some minutes and like mixing with 4-4-2 which might be the way forward to get the best out of lossga who may be our best player if used correctly not a big fan of the cup think my generation see it more of a distraction than a beautiful thing, so I am not fussed but never want to see leeds lose and think last year monks mistake in cup saw wheels fall of the wagon so to speak- i predict 0-4 lossga hat trick MOT

07 Jan 2018 12:21:54
forgot to put lossaga hat trick berdi fts but totally thought that would happen

07 Jan 2018 09:40:29
Slightly concerning interview with TC stating he doesn't think we need any more strikers at the club, he's kidding himself if he thinks we have enough fire power up top to keep us in the play off spots till the end of the season.

07 Jan 2018 10:12:38
Very concerning. Tc out anybody?

07 Jan 2018 11:19:09
Ekuban is out for a good while yet, grot is nowhere near ready for championship football at the moment, roofe tries hard but lacks the physical presence needed (would be better with another striker along side him) . and Lassoga doesn't look interested to me (or fit) .

07 Jan 2018 11:31:23
We have enough strikers TC! Sounds like he is keeping his cards close to his chest or this ARSE is lost his marbles!

07 Jan 2018 08:56:38
YEP reporting that TC has said we have more than enough fire power and will not be buying a striker this transfer window.

07 Jan 2018 10:13:41
Does he watch the same games as the rest of us?

07 Jan 2018 13:04:03
Don't know Aus, Really wish I could see what he does. Don't believe he truly has any say in recruitment and Is Reading From Ortas Script.