Leeds Banter Archive November 07 2020

 

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07 Nov 2020 21:13:29
Frustrating game today. Some very dodgy decisions and the scoreline definitely flattered Palace.

I want to address the fans who have been slagging Bielsa and the players. I don't just mean on this site, it's all over social media. We've just been promoted and we all knew it wouldn't be easy, especially against the teams who will sit back and then counter. I think our good start to the season has risen expectations, but hopefully the last two games have brought everyone back down to earth with a bump. At this stage in our journey survival is all we should be looking at, stop the nonsense and get behind the coach and players.

I also came on hear earlier and saw BW moaning about Philips and saying we are better without him. Clearly conceding 8 goals in two games would suggest not. I'm not a regular poster to the site and don't want to cause any offence with my next sentence. But, isn't it about time that BW dropped the whole anti Philips things. Its becoming boring and quite frankly puts me off visiting the forum. Philips has been loyal to Leeds and has the respect of Bielsa and the England manager, maybe its time BW found someone else to moan about.

I'm glad there's an international break. Hopefully we can get Rodrigo back in and maybe Lorente. I think the players desperately need a break, let's then get all fired up for the Arsenal game. Keep believing people.

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07 Nov 2020 21:31:47
Good post Danny is back.

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07 Nov 2020 22:16:40
No Danny go do one, my opinion and it is valid.

As for slagging beslia the frustrating thing is that he is clearly brilliant but also makes silly mistakes and he makes them again and again

All Leeds fans know we are weak at set plays yet not been addressed in any way

Most Leeds fans agree cooper ain’t good enough yet he still plays

Most Leeds fans think Dallas ain’t good enough in middle of the park yet he still plays there.

So my frustration is not the mistakes it is the same mistakes and my frustration is that we can all predict what will happen and call the mistakes before they come. If we can see it, if the other managers can capitalise on it, if the pundits can call it why can’t belisa see it as he is great but stubborn

As for Phillips and the score line we kept a clean sheet without him. however when cooper plays we concede 4,3,4,4 goals when he don’t play we keep clean sheets
The answer is not playing Phillips especially agasknt fast teams. that is obvious the answer is not playing cooper he is the common denominator


So sorry if my posts bore you. But feel free to ignore them. it’s quite easy to do.

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07 Nov 2020 22:52:41
Good Post Danny, remember Bermondsey said we wouldn’t win promotion with Phillips playing, that Bielsa was so bad he would have gone by last Christmas, that Phillips would never play for England and he was so confident of that he promised to get his arse tattooed if he did!
Bielsa is the reason we are back in the premiership, yes he makes mistakes ad do we all, including Bermondsey with most of his flamboyant dramatic predictions and statements. I trust B from Argentina more than the B from Bermondsey!

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07 Nov 2020 23:43:28
We had a pure championship side out today with maybe Koch so of course we struggled. The players from last season have a huge learning curve and have done well but we missed the extra quality of Rodders again and we desperately need Llorente to get fit. don't think Cooper will be able to hack it at this level.

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07 Nov 2020 20:45:59
Don’t know what the passing is like on the training park but these last two games the likes of Ayling, Costa and Harrison has been very wayward and below par. (We are missing KP’s precision passing) . Hope it picks up soon!
Think Coops will be usurped by Llorente when fit, looks like he’s struggling in the Premiership.
On a positive note Bamford looks like he’s adapting very well, should’ve been a brace today, VAR clearly is ruining football as we know it.

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07 Nov 2020 19:50:35
Don't know about anyone else, but I'm really struggling to get into this season. With no fans and this effing virus, it's just not doing it for me. So I'm just going to watch every game and enjoy the good stuff, hope we stay up and look forward to next season, when everything is back to normal! 🙏
Also cut Villa Dave some slack, he's harmless enough, and you can't always say that about VD can you? 😂😂.

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07 Nov 2020 20:00:54
Danum agreed football without supporters in the stadium truly sucks ( that along with the ridiculous VAR nonsense )


As for Leedsdave ( formerly known as bitter Villadave ) he is Leeds.

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07 Nov 2020 21:02:20
My mate (who is a Liverpool. supporter and feels badly done by) also wants Var stopped however I feel that (in theory) it's a good tool The problem is the knobhead in front of the screen. Coupled with the stupid rule. Whatever happened to clear and obvious together with '' if I'm doubt" give the attacker the benefit. If we're going to stop the game for a couple of hours while some fool delineates it just makes a mockery of the game. NB That actually was a question. Why did they stop with those two guidelines?

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07 Nov 2020 23:44:50
absolutely its not the technology its the way if is being used that is ruining things.

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07 Nov 2020 23:48:50
I think leedsdave may be one of our best fans.

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08 Nov 2020 02:32:45
Lol Alf yes Leeds Davee should be awarded Top Leeds Fan 😆.

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07 Nov 2020 19:36:16
If you watch Robin Kochs highlights reel for Freiburg it features, amongst other things, his ability to hit long range passes accurately. I do not see that at Leeds he gets the ball and his first thought is to play it along the back line. So his accuracy figures are exemplary but only sideways. Please Marcelo let him try 30 yards forward he seems to be quite good at it.

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07 Nov 2020 19:19:52
Maybe, just maybe, we should have bought Eze and have him taking our free kicks?

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07 Nov 2020 20:23:30
And for his ability to dive and win them.
Raphinha attempts was amazing from so far out, maybe we have our man.

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07 Nov 2020 20:48:06
Why can't we have both? Greedy?

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07 Nov 2020 22:17:48
Raph looked good today, very promising I reckon.

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08 Nov 2020 11:54:26
Rafa, Rods and Lorente, along with getting Kal back, will change our fortunes. can’t wait to see our strongest side play!

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07 Nov 2020 19:06:05
I think we are in danger of doing to Llorente what we have done to so many players before. After a run of poor results we have picked on an injured player and heaped so much pressure on him. Saying he is exactly what is missing and making him out to be the great hope as soon as he returns. Unfortunately that cannot be done this time. We can all hope, but I would suggest that until very recently very few even knew who Diego Llorente was let alone seen him play regularly. Now I do hope that he is our answer of course but let's not make him out to be the new Ferdinand. Let him more work his way in and just let the big man decide when he is ready and who he replaces.

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07 Nov 2020 19:42:05
Leo . no one is saying Llorente is the great hope just a significant improvement on Cooper

. Llorente is a Spanish international ( a level above EPL) , he man marked Ronaldo out of the Portugal Spain international.

I have seen more than enough to know Llorente is a far better defender than Cooper at this level ( the Koch Cooper partnership simply )
isnt working 15 goals in 4 matches

We need a Llorente Koch central defensive partnership asap. and until then Ayling in central defence with Koch.

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{Ed025's Note - keep your heads up guys you have a decent side and a very good manager, it is not going to be easy especially in this covid hit season with no supporters or atmosphere, i think you are doing ok and have more than enough to survive so just enjoy the ride my friends..

07 Nov 2020 20:26:16
Post’s of the day from Danum (great VD joke) and Ed025’s

Until we have our full side out we’re going to have to accept we’re forced to playing less capable (but just as determined) players.

We have to hold our hands up and admit the better teams have won the past two weeks. (yep we had some bad breaks)

Finally, I say welcome to Villa Dave anytime he wishes to visit I genuinely would never ever consider spending time on a rivals banter site, but it’s a great Leeds site and reminds us all we could support other teams than Leeds.

Count my blessings everyday, even when we lose.

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{Ed025's Note - nice one CO92..

07 Nov 2020 22:19:30
Think we have a great coach, world class coach but we don’t have a great manger for they are very different things

A great manager can adapt, pick best team, read and change a game and learn from mistakes. beslisa has one way and it is a great way but when it don’t work we are screwed.

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07 Nov 2020 17:17:04
I hated the feeling of losing in league 1 and championship but we are losing in the premier league which is still hard to take but as commentators said it wasn't a 4.1 result but it was cooper must be removed since he's come back we have shipped in 8 goals I think that says it all.

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07 Nov 2020 18:02:35
It's no surprise where Liam is concerned, sentiment aside he's not a prem quality player, I know we have strengthened In. That position but a few injuries have totally thrown us out of kilter, we don't have a bench that suits our match play, no disrespect to the youth, but it's too much too ask rookies to do a job in the PREMIERSHIP, seasons of poor signings now showing .
We should be. ok for the season though, we will lose another run of games, but equally we will pick up the crucial points tally.

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07 Nov 2020 18:03:15
Agree we are prem and no shame in losing but we are better than results suggest and coops has got to go.

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07 Nov 2020 19:29:53
Most people agree with you re Coops, except one; and he is the only one that counts.
We are maybe up against the big mans main failing.

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07 Nov 2020 16:37:35
Unfortunately entirely predictable. I don't think we will be relegated but Rads is entirely correct. Stay up - consolidate - improve -repeat. We play decent football but we're weak at the back. If Llorente is good we should improve as the season goes on. Worried about the the virus effect on Rodrigo in the short to medium term. In the premiership you don't get to make too many defensive mistakes without it being costly. It will be interesting to see us when Phillips, Rabinnia; Llorente; and Rodriga are back. We don't have a great back up squad yet but hopefully that will come season by season. 40 points is the target this time.

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07 Nov 2020 16:48:23
Think Lorente will be huge for us a proper left back is important

Worried about Phillips coming back as o think we are weaker with him. Gutted in results as it looks like we missed him but we didn’t know villa game just belisa made huge mistakes last two games

Is Phillips really the answer against two quick counter attacking teams like palace and lesticer?

Also stuijk played well today I thought?

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07 Nov 2020 16:48:57
As ever scoring the first goal is crucial


Mentality and confidence are crucial

We score first we invariably win under Bielsa, if we concede first we invariably lose chasing the game just 2 wins out of 28 games conceding first

We need our best side out and all players available Llorente , KP, . Rodrigo, Raphina and Pablo

We have 2 weeks to regroup and. get players back and strengthen the team

A good season will be staying up and my post season prediction of between 12th to 15th I will be extremely happy to happen.

VAR is ridiculous.

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07 Nov 2020 16:55:27
Hes agree, I've said from day 1 I'd taken 17th all season long, but we have now conceded 17 goals, most in the prem, 4 against leicester isn't great but they are a good team, but to concede 4 against Palace is IMO inexcusable,
Dallas is either played at left back or not at all IMO, Raphinia needs to start, and yes Berm missing Phillip's is the key, surely you can't now say were better without him, 2 weeks off but i'm fealing Managers are doing there homework on Bielsa
MOT.

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07 Nov 2020 16:55:33
Joking apart Hesslian, you play very good football mate, and no way will you go down.

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07 Nov 2020 16:58:29
Bermo really insists Strujk is better than Phillips, snd we are better without Phillips? I just don’t see it? I think our results speak for themselves without Phillips we post 4-1 twice on the bounce.

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07 Nov 2020 17:00:35
Juries out for me on pascal bermo, he seems to lose concentration to regularly, I know when we have a full squad again he will be subbed but its an aspect of his game that he needs to rectify, along with a little penchant for fouling too regularly imo, we were always going to get a reality check and sure as hell, we have it,

Our bench is the worrying aspect for me, and it's weird that some on hwre thought we don't need to strengthen in January, we need more players,

We have accumulated a lot of sub standard last few seasons, this is blaringly obvious now

Anyway even though we were well beaten, raphinha clooks like he can pick great passes, and paddybamayang can't do it all on his toblerone.

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07 Nov 2020 17:02:43
Berm, worried about Phillip's coming back, REALLY, defensively we are shocking without him.

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07 Nov 2020 17:12:32
Great post Hess. And Mighty, I agree ref Kal. we are lacking his presence, as he makes the team tick. We certainly haven’t played “better” without him, as Bermo wants us to believe.

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07 Nov 2020 18:10:13
No belisa made mistakes villa was without Phillips we was amazing

No one doubts Phillips is slow so how would he of helped againstesticer and palace it defies logic

We are stronger without Phillips just need belisa to pick right team Phillips will not improve us and was just getting found out when injured again time will tell but I’m very very confident in this.

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07 Nov 2020 19:16:40
Bermo, Llorente may/ should come in, possibly for Coops but he is a right footed Centre Back not a Left Back? I assume everyone is pitching for a Koch+Llorente pairing going forward, maybe that's the future but certainly Koch needs to up his game and learn how to out jump and bully forwards.

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07 Nov 2020 19:24:17
Nonsense Berm, you used the single Villa result of proof of Phillip's being poor and Leeds better without him, why don't the next two defeats prove the opposite?

Is it me or simply does Struijk play a lot further forward then Phillips?
He is not as disciplined in staying just ahead of the back line which leaves holes behind. Positionally Phillips is far superior (just too slow) .

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07 Nov 2020 19:43:49
Spot on Canada
Berm' s just plain daft ' reasoning'is entirely selective.

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07 Nov 2020 22:22:06
Phillips positions is beyound poor what’s ap me and I’ll send videos to prove it. really poor

Cooper is the problem when he plays we concede for fun that don’t mean Phillips is the answer

One game without Phillips and cooper and we was amazing that for me is prof enough.

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07 Nov 2020 23:48:11
Well said leedsdave.

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07 Nov 2020 16:37:11
Ouch 🤣🤣🤣.

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07 Nov 2020 16:49:28
You still here mate I say mate I don’t know you as you are just some fella who hangs about on our page for some reason

Is villa that bad.

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07 Nov 2020 16:56:56
Ha obsessed bitter Dave is predictably back

Not good or lucky today but Come back when we have our best players back and not facing VAR and ref bs along with freak own goals.

Still thrashed your vile team 3 nil though Villa Dave and may I recommend you to hilarious YouTube ' Hitler reacts Aston Villa - Leeds United ' 😆.

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07 Nov 2020 16:58:01
Some people have nothing better to do. Should change your name to leedsdave.

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07 Nov 2020 17:12:58
Hahahahahaha Alf spot on . he shall now be known as Leedsdave 😆😆.

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07 Nov 2020 17:05:48
Yep, not all but if some of you guys were not so bitter towards some clubs it would probably not happen.
I go on other sites for a rundown, and have a great laugh, but some of you lot are unreal, so reap what you sow fella.

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07 Nov 2020 16:01:59
When a Bamford points to where he wants the ball played, he's not asking for it to be pinged skilfully off his forefinger. This current offside nonsense is now entrenched as a total embarrassment to the game.

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07 Nov 2020 16:22:26
You can't score with your hand, so it shouldn't be used for offside
JOKE.

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07 Nov 2020 16:29:21
I see Pots coming faster then the speed of light, MB will not stay if things don’t change .

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07 Nov 2020 19:32:10
Legs shouldn't count either IMO unless in act of scoring. I mean every other step you would be off/ on/ off etc based purely on running. Torso only.

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07 Nov 2020 15:55:53
Unfortunately conceding goals can become a habit, Another 3 today and it hasn't finished yet. Doesn't matter how or why we concede it mounts up and its a cycle that's hard to break.

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07 Nov 2020 16:18:27
said last year and got laughed at. leeds can not defend. we was poor last year but kept the ball well and was in weaker league. defence was always going to be bad, but we are playing great football and once we get lorrent in the team, keep stuijk in the side and get a proper left back I genuinely think we could be champs league we are not a million miles away from being amazing.

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07 Nov 2020 16:23:31
Conceding Berm because KP is missing 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.

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07 Nov 2020 16:27:10
Berm you also said the sell Phillips then he got pick for England, don’t we miss him now.

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07 Nov 2020 15:53:49
2 week International break can't come soon enough

As for VAR and referees not fit for purpose.

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07 Nov 2020 15:50:34
lost for words

bamfords goal was never offside you can't not score with your arm (same with koch pen at Liverpool being a deflection)

3rd goal keeper was at fault but its a freak goal

Bamford is quality those who doubt him are idiots. scored two quality goals today amazing finishes which puts him on 8 for the season

we need to defend better but we all know this, Cooper no good, set plays are Sunday league and have been for a while now.

alsioko I love him but his final ball is not good enough, stuijk played well. Harrison touch is class but final ball hit and miss

also belisa must start to take blame, klich in dm role was a mistake and Dallas in midfield is another. Dallas has been beyond poor today. he was not good enough in the middle of the park in championship why is he there in prem? keep bogatuz and play him instead?

I love the way we play and we have been very very hard done by today but same mistakes are costing us and it is annoying

if we don't learn and if belisa don't adapt leeds who could get Europe could end up in relegation dog fight. belisa is what belisa is for all the good comes the same old bad.

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07 Nov 2020 15:28:39
The game is a joke, Dann is allowed 2 hands pushing down on Koch, bamford offside on his arm and Eze dives for a free kick. Ridiculous. What is the point of VAR and when will they start banning people retrospectively for diving.

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07 Nov 2020 15:42:24
That was one of the worst VAR decisions you will see, thank you Mike Dean. Great second goal by Bamford. We are back in it. COYW!

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07 Nov 2020 15:55:41
LEEDS 4 PALACE 3! Time for the Brazilian to shine!

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07 Nov 2020 15:24:39
Season after season - when Cooper plays we are suspect at set pieces. Same again today. We were better when Jansson played but Cooper was always a liability. Koch is good generally but is suspect in the air. We need someone who can dominate the box. Could be another long game with a not so good result. Bielsa's view about having a strong running attacking team is very entertaining but you still have to be able to do the basics. Liverpool -4 Fulham -3; Leicester -4. A worrying trend. Hope we can score 2 or 3 today.

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07 Nov 2020 15:47:05
Will need to score 3 now, Meslier confidence taking a knock, 3rd goal positioning questionable.

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07 Nov 2020 15:47:09
Hesslian you only have one person to blame for letting Janson go MB so stop moaning about Cooper.

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07 Nov 2020 15:52:40
belisa needs to learn

every leeds fan knows Cooper ain't good enough so why has this not been address he should of been sold by now

same with Dallas in midfield. he was poor there last year and yet playing there today in the prem

belisa is a world class coach but a stubborn manager and this does cost us.

no point playing well being the better team and being 3-1 down although we have been very very unlucky today.

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07 Nov 2020 15:00:27
Hard game today, will have to play well to get anything from this one. Apart from Koch, it's the same players that played in the championship. Would take a point.

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07 Nov 2020 15:15:59
Yes as it was against Leicester, we need to get some players back. I wonder if Hernandez has been dropped for disciplinary reasons. Could do with breaking our London hoodoo.

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07 Nov 2020 15:17:07
Rubbish at taking corners and defending them.

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07 Nov 2020 15:53:11
Sadly look second best today, some poor decisions going against us but we not helping ourselves either. Can't wait for our new signings to be fit to play.

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07 Nov 2020 11:04:16
Whose first.
Ole or Slav?

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07 Nov 2020 13:09:30
Or Dyche or Potter.

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07 Nov 2020 13:26:52
Maybe Potter.
Half time ev mancs. What crap. There is no system. No game plan. Most of the players look surprised when they get passed the ball.
Both are so poor.

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07 Nov 2020 15:16:45
Potter on a 5 yr contract, can't see it.

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Review Of The Day 7th November 2020

07 Nov 2020 07:39:23
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 7th November 2020

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07 Nov 2020 00:04:28
Please check out on YouTube this absolutely hilarious video

' Hitler Reacts Aston Villa - Leeds United '.

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07 Nov 2020 01:26:44
Yup, that's a good one.

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07 Nov 2020 02:58:03
If only OblongWhore would delete his account.

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07 Nov 2020 05:39:30
That was nearly as funny as the vid Georgie. 👍.

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07 Nov 2020 13:51:01
very good the You Tube Hitler reacts to the new Leeds Badge is just as funny.

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07 Nov 2020 14:30:03
Yes PLAB that one is hilarious too 😆.

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