Leeds Banter Archive December 08 2018

 

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08 Dec 2018 22:07:42
Disappointed to see Radz playing games and not sorting the 2 ks kemar and kalven contracts. Our 2 most sought after players. Just put your hand in your pocket and get it sorted.

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08 Dec 2018 23:49:32
Wex No game is being played. It's called strategy. We need to know which division we're playing in next season before committing on salary. Since we might get promoted (promotion is good, would be good news) I can't see Radz examining this further until earliest end of April 2019. January interest maybe even bids for our best players are inevitable but I can't see anyone leaving until the end of the season. Something to do with want to be there and enjoy being part of getting LUFC promoted and not sitting on a PL team bench instead during our return to glory.

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09 Dec 2018 02:11:38
Dunno about KP but Roofe's current contract is, at least, till the end of next season so why risk new contracts (on PL wages) until we get promoted?

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09 Dec 2018 05:29:52
Wex Think you'll also find Jack Clarke is our most sought after player. Otherwise, excellent post. Expect a large bid from Citeh in about 5 weeks for him.

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09 Dec 2018 08:13:12
These days, Wex seems to come on, leave a critical post and then disappear for a week with no debate. It’s good to discuss these issues on here. I think Wex is only quoting one side of the story, the agents view. George is right, these days player contract negotiations are an enormously complicated task.

Al is also right, Roofe contract finishes 2020 and KP 2021, so there is time!

With both Roofe and KP, would they be automatic starters for a Leeds premiership team? ( Bermondsey, you don’t need to answer the second part at least) ! The answer to that question determines what kind of contract that the club would offer at the moment and also what the agents would negotiate. I suggest that’s why it could be in both sides interests to pause for the moment and concentrate on the task in hand!

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09 Dec 2018 10:45:11
We're willing to pay Bamford twice what roofe and Phillips are getting.

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09 Dec 2018 10:48:17
We'll see what their contracts are worth if the mighty Burnley or Bournemouth offer too triple their wages in January.

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09 Dec 2018 10:54:35
Roofe should be on more than Bamford.

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09 Dec 2018 11:49:29
Burnley are in the Championship next season so won't be in a position to lure anyone from us.

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09 Dec 2018 12:37:49
Disagree Martyn. Burnley won't go down. There are 3 worse teams. I can see the incumbent bottom 3 all being demoted. This does not mean however that our better players will end up at Turf Moor anytime soon.

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09 Dec 2018 13:39:48
Wex, no problem with KP, Bermondsey is confident he is not good enough to play in the premiership or indeed for us! Perhaps Bermondsey is on the Leeds United contracts negotiation panel!

If A premiership side come calling for either Roofe or KP and offer a fair price then I think there is a good chance we would take it if the player wants to go. The more likely we are to be in the premiership, the more likely they are to want to stay and the more we might pay. But the question remains, are both KP and Roofe good enough to be premiership starters every week?

Other point is, does any one on here really know the details of Roofe, KP and Bamfords contracts? I don’t but would be interested to know Wex if you do?

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09 Dec 2018 14:32:11
Spaniard No true fan would even be thinking let alone discussing the details of players' contracts right now. We're 2nd in the league with a 5 point gap and the transfer window only 3 weeks away during which we might strengthen, hopefully. We have a truly excellent manager and coaching staff getting every ounce out of the players. Bamford is back, Brown about to break into matchday 18 and various players who've seen a good amount of first team action returning late January. Anyone critical of Radz either not a full pound or has an unattractive agenda. If fans can't rejoice a little now and heap some praise on Radz when can it ever be done?

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09 Dec 2018 15:49:35
Seems wanting more for your club is unacceptable. Wanting more from your owner makes you not a true fan. Some of you guys have some neck.

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09 Dec 2018 16:03:19
As you might suspect Mr George, I agree with you!

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09 Dec 2018 16:41:22
Wex, happy to want more from club, owner and fans, but getting the cheque book out and agreeing to whatever Roofe and KPs agent wants isn’t necessarily good for the club! There are posters on here who don’t think KP should play for Leeds in the championship never mind the premiership, so bound to be a healthy debate about what kind of additional contract he deserves!

I just don’t think it’s a bad idea to concentrate on the football now and contracts later.

Don’t you think perhaps Radz deserves some credit for anything he has done?

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09 Dec 2018 17:46:56
Who said anything about giving them what they want. Improve their contract and tie them down for a couple more years. Not exactly breaking the bank considering how little investment has been made.

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09 Dec 2018 17:26:45
Wex Newsflash!

In 2004 we were relegated from the PL depriving us in cumulative terms of an estimated £1.5bn in income. We subsequently experienced a firesale of our better players, a number of dodgy owners, two administrations, a 15 points deduction and further relegation into League One. It usually takes a long time to turn it around and bounce back.

A decade and a half later we're doing just that. Surprised it took this long? Obviously our resurgence not on your timescale but I believe you're in a very minuscule minority of Leeds fans who realistically feel short changed by the current owner. My apologies for Bill Gates not buying us when we had on our books Enoch Showumni. Why not find a new planet to live on? One where 99.9% of all wealth belongs to the city of Leeds, wars are fought with chicken drumsticks and no-one engages in crime or sex before marriage. You'll be right at home then.

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09 Dec 2018 19:24:43
And Wex, perhaps the reasons why the talks haven’t progressed is that we wouldn’t give them what they wanted at the moment! Fact is, we don’t know the details and it always takes two to tango! I think Radz is to you what KP is to Bermondsey If we go up this year, don’t think anyone will be able to say that the board hasn’t invested
Wisely!

My question before was a genuine one, you said we are paying Bamford double Roofe, what are the details of both salaries?

Do you think Fulham invested wisely during the summer, 100 million?

Why are you so anti Radz, when it seems to of us that what the club is doing is working?

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09 Dec 2018 20:09:46
And they have 18 months and two years left on the ones they have. Not like they run out next week is it!

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09 Dec 2018 20:31:02
Spanishleeds contract enormously complicated maybe to you and Georgina dear God what rubbish.

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09 Dec 2018 21:41:57
Whiteywoman You're entitled to your opinion as I am to mine. I think you'll find the majority of posters agree with my appreciation for Radz, his successful learning curve and the gradual improvement of our club. You're welcome to discover who else thinks my view is rubbish.

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09 Dec 2018 22:33:20
Thank you Whiteman, from you I’ll take that as a compliment! Everybody is allowed an opinion, even you and me! Marching on together!

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09 Dec 2018 22:51:53
Imagine no crime before marriage!

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10 Dec 2018 02:44:32
Can someone translate Whitman's post for me please? If he's trying to say that players contracts are NOT complicated he needs to give his head a shake, all contracts of employment are exceedingly complicated.

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10 Dec 2018 03:41:35
Alf 😄.

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10 Dec 2018 09:04:37
Shock horror Whitey people study contract law for years in university. Then some of them specialize in the law of sporting contracts all their working life!

But actually, the point I was making was that, today, the process of drawing up and agreeing contracts with players is complicated . That’s why they have agents and the agents have legal advisers and the clubs have legal teams. Not sure it’s something that we want players involved in when we are trying to win the championship. Coming back to the original point by Wex, ithe complexity of the discussions also means we on the outside really don’t have a clue as to what has happened!

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10 Dec 2018 09:30:16
Chicken drumsticks! Classic George!

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10 Dec 2018 11:38:28
I guess that’s all folks from the weekend posters! Too much homework during the week, only allowed on the computer at weekends!

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10 Dec 2018 11:53:25
Hey guys back of whitey. He did 2 deals on sphock this year all on his own so he knows what he's talking about 🙃.

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10 Dec 2018 17:36:14
Spanishleeds I agree with you it’s ones point of view, wex is allowed to post what he thinks is his opinion, or views, then post like yours and one or two other don’t like it and take the mick because you don’t like his opinion, or maybe it’s not to your or others liking, let fans post what they think with out criticism, or sarcasm, it’s a Leeds fan site god sakes not just yours; Georgina, and, AL, s.

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08 Dec 2018 21:40:13
Looking at our team today I came to the conclusion that BPF and Pontus must feel like giants :) wonder what the average height of the starting 11 was? looked to me like about 5ft 9.

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08 Dec 2018 22:16:47
We are a small team, watched the game at Wba they looked like giants compared to us even bielsa has commented on this today.

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08 Dec 2018 23:50:49
That's another reason to see more of Halme. Wouldn't do any Halme.

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09 Dec 2018 02:13:03
Halme's nickname should be Marx, like in Harpo Marx :)

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09 Dec 2018 10:16:49
All the opposition forwards should keep out of Halmes way, Cooper being out of the team isn’t halming our chances and it shows you can play the kids, no Halme done!

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09 Dec 2018 11:50:28
Really George!

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08 Dec 2018 20:44:07
Ed when is my new avatar going to be approved?

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{Ed033's Note - Approved now.

08 Dec 2018 21:41:48
Ooh get you with the new fancy-dan avatar xxx ;)

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08 Dec 2018 22:17:45
Love it martyn!

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09 Dec 2018 00:21:22
Approved by a lookalike.

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09 Dec 2018 10:55:31
Like it.

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08 Dec 2018 20:26:18
Surely we must see Bamford at some point next week. Come what may.

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08 Dec 2018 20:48:45
Saw him in the under 23s last time out and thought he still looked a bit unfit. It’s Bielsas style not to rush players back in if he can avoid it. Roofe was fired up today, should have got a hat trick and almost fought Hernadez to take the penalty.

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08 Dec 2018 21:43:18
I think he'll get some minutes, but please, don't call me Shirley :)

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08 Dec 2018 20:22:36
It will be good to get Ayling back but now we know we should have no worries if his form dips. We have a ready replacement.

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08 Dec 2018 20:57:35
Leodis Can't see his form dipping from the sub bench.

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08 Dec 2018 20:00:24
Just got in! Wow!

1. The crowd today made a real difference, incredible atmosphere, wonderful applause for Saiz and Hernandez!
2. Shakelton well done fella, Aus was right, fast and dangerous!
3.Aapo, lovely moment when Matt Smith, got ready to come on and Bielsa turned to Aapo immediately, no hesitation, that comes from trust, kid or no kid!
4. Watch Hernadez making the goal, in a game like this with a parked double decker, his class can always offer a goal.
5 . There is a growing believe in the team and crowd that we will find a way to make something happen.

So proud of the team.

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08 Dec 2018 21:44:30
We're going up as champions!

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08 Dec 2018 19:13:42
Well. first game attended in years and we get a penalty.

Coincidence?

I think not

Good win that.

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08 Dec 2018 20:46:42
Get your tickets quick!

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08 Dec 2018 21:29:57
Go every week :)

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08 Dec 2018 18:44:43
Second in the league with notable point gap to third despite lack of investment dot com.

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08 Dec 2018 21:39:00
First in the league with a notable gap hashtag investment.

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08 Dec 2018 23:40:58
Wex Big compliment to Radz Orta and Bielsa then especially Bielsa.

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08 Dec 2018 17:00:06
Well done boys. Massive win IMO.

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08 Dec 2018 17:14:09
Grinding out the results, easily the sort of game that we could have come unstuck in. Given the injuries and young players coming in we got to be happy. Yes we can pick the negatives but another 3 points and some of the others below us losing a bit of ground. Tougher challenges ahead but tonight let's be happy guys.

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08 Dec 2018 17:39:34
I will enjoy tonight with the three points in the bag. A tough game but we came through. Well done to Shackleton too.

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08 Dec 2018 16:59:38
Think I put 3 point gap instead of 5.? doh!

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08 Dec 2018 16:58:17
1 - Yessss!
2 - Dammit Bolton!
3 - I'll happily take a cheeky 3 point gap to 3rd!

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08 Dec 2018 15:41:11
Am not their but sounds like we are making hard work of it again. All the possession and no end product. We need a prolific striker in January.

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08 Dec 2018 16:30:10
Thank you Martyn.
Roofe needs back up.

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08 Dec 2018 17:22:41
Bamford is back now get him rolling he will be great.

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09 Dec 2018 00:17:15
With you on that davey.

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08 Dec 2018 14:28:37
Joanna in goal for them. Means we'll score a few! No clean sheet for them!

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08 Dec 2018 15:32:38
No clean sheet for us either.
Come on we need to win today.

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08 Dec 2018 13:16:51
Old chap in the pub with his mate and they start talking about sex. "Me and Edna don't do it anymore, we have lost interest. " His mate says, "me and the missus were the same then I got some flavoured Condoms from the machine in the pub lav and we are at it like rabbits. " How come he says? "Well I put it on and she gives me a blow job and guesses what flavour it is" Thanks, I will try that he says. When he tells Edna she says "ooh yes let's try it" So they get in bed and she puts her head under the covers, gives him a blow job then pops her head up and says, "cheese and onion? " To which he replies, I haven't put one on yet! ".

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08 Dec 2018 16:29:21
😳😳😳😂😂😂👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻.

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08 Dec 2018 16:48:34
😂😂😂Nice one feath!

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08 Dec 2018 13:15:52
Goalkeepers get away with so much.
Liv v bourne. Goalkeeper comes out knee first. got to be at least a free kick.
They are mollycoddled these days and Allowed to do what they want.

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08 Dec 2018 12:19:42
Read a report suggesting aljoski at right back. What's the chances of the player we have been slating becoming out saviour when playing out of his chosen position.

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08 Dec 2018 12:40:59
I think that is worth trying with Clarke in front of him. Good attacking threat but with some teeth as well! Oh and less offsides!

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08 Dec 2018 12:42:06
That would be a surprise Wex, but you never know with Bielsa, I think he will go with Shackleton you know.

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08 Dec 2018 11:07:27
BEST JOKE I've HEARD IN AGES 😂😂😂😂😂.

A young man called Chris from London wanted to buy a Christmas present for his new girlfriend. They hadn't been seeing each other for very long and she lived in Scotland. Chris consulted with his sister and decided, after careful consideration, that a pair of good quality gloves would strike the right note. not too romantic and not too personal. Off he went with his sister to Harrods and they selected a dainty pair of fur lined quality leather gloves. His sister bought a pair of sexy knickers for herself at the same time. Harrods had a free gift wrap offer but the assistant mixed up the two items, the sister got the gloves and Chris unknowingly got the knickers. Good old Chris sent off his gift wrapped present in a parcel with the following letter.
Dear Maggie,
I chose these because I've noticed that you are not wearing any when we go out in the evenings. If it had not been for my sister I would have chosen the long ones with buttons, but she wears shorter ones (which are easier to remove) . These are a very delicate shade, but the lady I bought them from showed me the pair she had been wearing for the past three weeks and I hardly noticed any marks. I had her try yours on for me and she looked really smart in them even though they were a little bit tight on her. She also said that they rub against her ring which helps keep it clean. In fact she hasn't needed to wash it since she began wearing them.
I wish I was there to put them on for you the first time, as no doubt many other hands will touch them before I have a chance to see you again.
When you take them off remember to blow into them a little bit because they will be naturally a little damp from wearing.
Just imagine how many times my lips will kiss them during the coming year.
I hope you will wear them for me on our next date.
All my love,
Chris
P. S. My mum tells me that the latest style is to wear them folded down with a little bit of fur showing.

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08 Dec 2018 11:50:07
You'd have thought that Harrods shop assistant would've been a safe pair of hands!

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08 Dec 2018 12:32:11
You are challenging Cork with that one Martyn!

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08 Dec 2018 12:37:09
😂😂😂😂 Classic.

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08 Dec 2018 12:57:58
Tears rolling down my face Martyn. Best I’ve heard mate.

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08 Dec 2018 13:05:37
Got to keep up feath. If you snooze you lose and all that.

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08 Dec 2018 09:14:21
Good morning all, On the anniversary of Billy's passing yesterday, great pictures of him and other members of the Revie side on the Leeds Live site. A time when the game was not awash with cash and greed. Let's hope the great man can inspire us to three points today! MOT.

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08 Dec 2018 11:01:34
Let's get the win in the memory of Billy, would be the great man's birthday tomorrow, one thing I share with one of my hero's. Hoping for a good birthday weekend, starting today! MOT.

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08 Dec 2018 12:39:50
Three points will be a great start to the weekend for you especially as you have the same birthday as Billy. I share mine with George Best, another great player of the same era, despite who he played for!

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08 Dec 2018 13:26:56
I got to meet George Best before he hung up his boots for good. Was such a genuine guy .

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08 Dec 2018 14:37:34
Happy birthday both.

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08 Dec 2018 16:32:29
All the best Mezzer!

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08 Dec 2018 17:02:05
Cheers guy, off for a curry and some beers celebrating another 3 points. Little gap now developed. MOT.

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08 Dec 2018 08:29:52
Good result for us last night between villa and the baggies. Need to capitalise by taking all 3 points today. 2-0 for me MOT.

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08 Dec 2018 03:46:48
Going to be an interesting line up and bench tonight.
Looks like Clarke may start and both Izzy and Bamford May get last 15 min depending how game is going. i'm looking forward to seeing Izzy play.
I can't see qpr causing us any problems.
2-0 for me.
Interesting to see bookies predict Sheff Utd to stay in top 6 and derby and Notts forest to miss out.

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08 Dec 2018 08:37:11
Much improved side as late aus.

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08 Dec 2018 08:53:17
Can't see QPR causing us problems!, Aus i hope we don't live to regret those words of yours. I respect that you have called a few results correctly but let's not dismiss QPR so lightly as they are a better team from the one that started the season. I really hope we can beat them today as we do need to keep this run going but it will be anything but easy today. I would happily take another 1-0 win.

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08 Dec 2018 09:00:40
Forest will finish strongly, they’ve invested heavily and have put a good run together.

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08 Dec 2018 10:14:38
Looking forward to another Elland Road cauldron today. With another full house and possibly Clarke, Bamford, Brown and Saiz on the bench, can’t see QPR beating us. In one game soon we are going to get an early game changing goal and then it could be a big win, let’s hope it’s today. Not sure if it will be Shackleton and Alioski or Shackleton and Clarke. Try one formation and have the other in reserve if needed! I’ll go 3-1!

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