Leeds Banter Archive September 08 2012

08 Sep 2012 21:09:45
Why dont people grow up, suggesting boycotting games because they don't like the chairman. So what ! Do Man U fans like their owner ? -NO, most fans of clubs dislike their owners because they all want them to buy Messi, don't forget it is a business
I am not a fan of Papa Smurf but if he leaves, nothing will change until the next transfer window
Also, people need to realise that if Papa Smurf hadn't have turned up, we would be where Rangers are now, shafted and in debt
We have a decent team, better than last year with a better manager so grow a pair and just support the team and whinging like kids

ARE YOU MAD!! Man u still spend money on desent players. Instead are money just disapears into thin air, thats not the same at all.
Yes the team have started good so far but we are 2=3 injurys away from end of season. Norris out, Green out, Brown out. Thats are midfield, who's going to replace them because we already know there is no money left in the club. Whats happened to this profit we are now making and the sales of are good players. I have to be honest, you are in la, la, land.
BOYCOTT!! BATES OUT, BATES OUT!!
mot4life

How can anybody disagree with the last post you are clearly deluded bates out, bates out all the way

Okay, we have got the message mot4life, and it is getting old. Have a check of the feedback on your recent rants, your views ARE not as popular in the real world as they ARE in your sweetie mice world.
Maybe you should take more stock of OUR opinions.
You would have us believe that you want Bates out, then you say boycott Bates out, what do you want?
I must have missed the new rule that means a teams season finishes as soon as they have 2/3 INJURIES. So who gets the points for the games they do not play?

Go on then sweety mice, i'm all ears. Who,s going to come in and fill these positions, I'm dieing for your wisdom. Please don't say all the youth players because that is just a sh==e answear.
Tell me also, what is going to happen come January and we need to get some players in? Remember theres no juice in the tank but there should be.
Over to you.
mot4life

Spot on mate, it's been old for a long time.
wish he'd find something else to do unless he's got something usefull to say.
today he asks what happened to the profit we're making, yet usually we're heading for administration according to him.

Another thing in answear to your question, which do i want, bates out or boycott. Well lets see, if you asked the person who has only said boycott and the person that only said bates out. What do you think the answear would be? I guess it is safe to say that bothe are one and the same. Which means there bothe, hopefully! goin to get the same out come. So it is safe to say that you are a lonely person with no partner, to come on here with a pointless arguement and not even have the balls to sign off. How can anyone take you seriouse. As for people disagreeing to my lower post. Why don't you have a read of some of the lower post by other people. Then you will see what real fans think.
So i will finish with and always will until that clown is out of are club.
BOYCOTT(The same) BATES OUT(Also the same)
mot4life

I think you are a little sad, pulling someone up for there spelling mistakes. Which makes me think you are just like Bates and have money. So you belittle people and think there beneathe you,(Hope i've spelled that right, as i also am not a good speller.) Why don't you just concentrate on the arguement about his post and not his spelling.
RMOTLIFE

08 Sep 2012 14:29:46
RIP SPEEDO

a_scarborough_white

08 Sep 2012 13:04:36
Everyone is right to there opinion with boycotting games or not... at the end of the day we all support leeds, and people react in different ways... but Leeds is still in there heart! so instead of us all turning on eachover for whether the should boycott or not... we should all be united in the one things that we love LEEDS! so people please stop belittling other fans just beacuse there opinion or views are different.. MOT!! (TOGETHER the key word!)

L3EDS

There is very little MOT within our fan base. Thats one thing that is for sure....!

Its fair to say bates has divided the fans

You can't hold bates to blame for everything. Fans should look within, look at our cponduct look at fake rumours, spreading of conjecture within our fan base, in fighting. Thats nothing to do with bates I could go on, but one thing thats for sure is that bates is not solely to blame.

I think it's because a lot of people have realised (about time) that the only thing Bates cares about is money. If the only way he will bail out is when it hits him in the pocket then so be it. It's blind loyalty when the same bloke who takes your hard earned week in, week out calls us people and we still turn up FFS!

Ok then if bates isnt to blame then who is stop sticking up for that parasite he is running are club into the ground with his dodgy dealings the sooner you and all the bates lovers out there realise that the better love leeds hate bates?

It is all bates fault . hes a greedy person . what do you think is going to happen if we dont go up this season ? ill tell you , bates will make the sale of all our top players and put nothing back into the transfer fees he will then attempt to see leeds united with no buyers interested and all the marches starting up again effecting the team and we will end up relegated to league 1 again with no money and a worse squad . bates won't sell the club once relegated as he wont get the money he wants and we will be stuck with him for another 5 + yrs .

BATES OUT

Everything is bates fault he is the instigator
The reaction of us fans differs from boycotting games to chanting bates out to not buying merchandise
Each to there own. Wether we think right or wrong
But take bates away and the rest stops
Russjon

08 Sep 2012 11:33:23
This boycotting of games is just a ploy by the arm chair fans who never really go to games to have an excuse not to go to games, they bring the conjecture and anti bates bs to sites like this. The gate hasn't been greatly affected since this started and any negative gate % can be simply explained at the general economic state of the country as a whole. All football clubs are experiencing the same. Boycott as much as you want as to be honest I don't want you at Leeds games. {Ed013's Note - You get your die hards that go whatever the situation. You get the working class that really struggle to pay the prices and go when they can, the fans that won't go whilst Mr Bates is there and then I believe that leaves what you call the "armchair fans". The thing that annoys me the most is the prices. There are fans out there that would love to go, but can't due to the high prices and what ever Leeds says, most the other clubs cater for their fans better and don't have a problem with "extra staff costs". You will get your armchair fans everywhere for most clubs that just love to gob off, but cant name a player on the team sheet. What I want to see is the fans turning up because it is affordable, this club is pushing fans away due to greed. The die hard fans should be rewarded for there constant support and then maybe, one day the armchair fans will turn up. Lets not forget the fans that just won't go until Mr Bates has left the building and the passionate fans that live abroad that Love Leeds United that would come more if things change}

Good call Ed, most people these days have less money to chase things they want, but which cost more.
I know the people running clubs would purport to have forgotten more about business than most of us will ever know,
but business is mathematics with money attached.
15 fans at a game at £20 is £300.
10 fans at a game at £25 is £250.
And that is before those extra 5 fans buy anything at the ground to "enhance their matchday experience"

The ticket pricing at ER is fine imo this season, yes in years gone by it has been wrongly priced, which in effect has priced working class out of matches but look at the pricing this season it fits the bill for club and fan alike. A lot of fans imo are just using the pricing as an excuse as a reason not to go when in truth they wouldn't go any way, before the birth of the premier league LUFC gate wasnt great then. The league cup game against Everton is well priced and true fans should go and pay respect to speeedo who served both clubs so well.

First poster - absolute drivel. 3 of the 5 people I've gone with for years, decades in one case, have not renewed their season tickets this year. Two of them are financially very well off so price isn't an issue for them. The issue is Bates. I'd be interested to know how you can justify describing someone who's been going to ER week in week out for 4 decades as an 'armchair fan'.

As for the prices, 5th highest in the country. How can that be described as OK for second tier football. The prices are scandalous. I'm lucky, I don't have to think about the cost, but if this had all happened 10 years ago before my business took off would I be paying those prices to line Bates's pension fund? Don't think so..
ML

Since when is our tickets the 5th highest, complete utter conjecture that has been said that many times that it's now "true"

To second reply: yes, I am one of those fans who uses the price of tickets as an excuse for not going to games, simply put, I cannot afford to go to all the games I want to, the pricing does not "fit my bill", I cut my cloth accordingly, so bite me.
I also cannot afford to go to some of the best holiday resorts in the world, so using your argument, I would not be a true holiday maker either, bite me twice.
I know nothing about you, but please remember, the price of something only matters to someone who has trouble paying for it.
If you are not one of those people, good luck to you, in the mean time, bite me thrice.
And what gives you the right to bring the tragedy of Gary Speed into the equation?
You do not even have enough respect to spell his name properly.
I cannot make the game so, according to you, I am not a true fan. I think I will be able to live with it.
Go look up sanctimonious sometime soon.

Looks like I was wrong about the ticket price - just did some research into that - I took took the often quoted line as gospel. However, the price is very high if you remove the London clubs from the equation and I maintain that it is way too high for what we're getting in terms of investment in players.
ML

08 Sep 2012 10:28:47
Bates is buying fratton park ..... I feel sorry for Pompey fans but. At least we will be rid of him ..... Goodbye Ken, it is only my opinion but you really should get out of football you have a 78 percent vote of no confidence with the fans , need I say more !

Since when does the sheds site represent all leeds fans, the shed are the new LUST claiming they rep the fans, just bs tripe.

08 Sep 2012 09:56:15
I have a theory on what has happened with the investment/takeover, before it is picked apart i want to point out that i am NITK and it is only my opinion. I think NW told Ken from the word go that he could not guarantee promotion within the financial constraints SG had to work under, KB will not invest any of his personal wealth on the team so therefore put feelers out for investors to come in with a cash injection. We know Americans were interested and shown around ER and TA but for whatever reason did not invest, then came along the present consortium who are more interested in a complete buyout. I'm pretty sure KB has no intention of selling but could be swayed with a big payout so therefore let them carry out due dilligence knowing there would be an offer tabled at the end. Meanwhile the lads have had a fantastic start to the campaign which leaves KB in a quandry, in his mind if they keep winning there could be the riches of a promotion payout, if they don't should he take the offer knowing that there might not be another and as the team slip down the league and the gate receipts dwindle the clubs worth decreases. Hes hedging his bets at the moment and until he makes up his mind were stuck in limbo. I reckon the best we can expect for the moment is an investment deal where the consortium fund and controls the footballing side of things and KB concentrates on megalomania.

a_scarborough_white

Do you really believe that a takeover happens by doing due diligence first then discuss terms afterwards, why would both parties go to all that length and through such costly process, to find out at the end they was only going to offer an amount which you wouldn't accept. Please get real.

08 Sep 2012 07:11:25
Nice to see Rodolph on the score sheet in Jamaicas 2-1 win over the USA. Think the next step should be that he is made Leeds captain and then sold on to a smaller club for a big fat profit and the money lodged in a bank account in Monaco. Saved our club, my ar5e.

Exactly! Time to realize a lot of the profits on player sales have gone into the back pocket of our chairman. It's wrong!

It's not right or wrong it's business it's his business that he's the chairman of he does as he wants, get a new owner he/she may decide to do the same or not or worse it's as simple as that, its business and it's not right or wrong.

If thats buisness, then he's in the wrong buisness and if you think he's ok to do this. Then you are a sandwich short of a picnick.
RMOTLIFE

08 Sep 2012 06:51:10
Lads let's all go to the matches support the team but don't buy any merchandise at all, the team needs the voices but don't even buy a coffee. .......kevlufc

People will still buy things and say they didn't. I know if i stay away, he's getting nothing.
RMOTLIFE

Bates can jog on if he thinks he is getting another penny out of me bates out?

08 Sep 2012 01:40:02
Can't watch it due to broadcast rights here in the US, but ESPN commentators can't say enough about Austin controlling the midfield in their qualifier. He's scored from a free kick as well. Bodes well for us if he stays healthy.

Todd -- Leeds fan in USA

08 Sep 2012 02:21:48
I agree
He is a tosser and should invest at least another couple of mill into Leeds or bugger off...
But if he didn't have Leeds best interest at heart why did he hire Neil warnock as manager ( the best option for promotion ) and not some cheaper upstart?
He us just a tight old git with transfer cash.
With injuries we will struggle big time and I fear Cardiff may teach as a lesson if we dont use this rest week to take on a few freebies.
It's make your mind up time Ken spend or give your key back.
Ausman

I really can't see Cardiff teaching us a lesson. We took a point there at the back end of last season with a poor side completely devoid of confidence. If we keep Bellamy in check we'll be ok.

Bellamy will be attacking our left, the weakest part of our defence.

Back in the day, Bellamy would have been a perfect fit for Leeds, an over rated, over paid, headless chicken petulant left winger, (with his head up his own bottom).
Anyone else spring to mind?
Answers on a post card please.

So much positivity today! Cardiff are nothing special, we can get at least a point.