Leeds banter 3

25 Nov 2025 11:17:04
Changed narrative was to highlight, now you now accept Lewin Brendan, Nmecha, Noah et al are poor quality signings, something we also disagreed on pre season

There's very little to be upbeat now about currently at E. R. , other than slightly cheaper seats next Seez.

25 Nov 2025 12:37:28
I think Noah is a good signing, although I am still baffled why Leeds and some posters on here didn't want Manor back instead.

I agree, the others listed Chris are all Pony.

On another baffling note, we can't score in a brothel, yet it's reported the muppets in charge are ready to let Harry go on loan this January. Throw a young lad, who has no fear and an attitude into the mix, he cannot do any worse, and would definitely do much better than the ones DF uses.

I prefer the Champo than the Prem anyway.

25 Nov 2025 12:54:02
I wouldn't be so quick to judge the signings. if we get another manager who has a track record and he can't get them to perform them maybe, but as it stands I wouldn't say they are poor quality.

25 Nov 2025 13:03:16
Ok, for was a third choice left winger after others turned us down. I guess we just didn’t have the money or attraction to entice a quality striker to our club.
Who said we were all going to be upbeat about a certain, ( ‘if you don’t live in LaLa Land) relegation battle this season.

25 Nov 2025 13:14:22
The above post is a reply to OP earlier this morning.

25 Nov 2025 13:35:54
The players or manager are poor Alf? Or both?
Yeah. Totally get why Sunderland more attractive than Leeds opti.
Surprised Sunderland didn’t steal our Golden striker on 120k a week. Or maybe that’s just smarts. Something we ain’t got.

25 Nov 2025 16:29:11
difficult to say Aus but we know Farke has a track record of being relegated from the Prem. Not sure how the players would fare under a different manager or even a different system.

25 Nov 2025 16:40:27
Okafor is another one, who only a few weeks ago, was being praised as a great signing. The worm turns quickly on here!

25 Nov 2025 19:14:39
Not. by yours truly Brighty
His stats prior. to joining us would pull paint off a wall.

25 Nov 2025 23:39:37
I think okafor is a good signing but he is far from a prem player. He still gives the ball away. Although he is slightly better than his first couple of games. But it is worrying that a lot of our goals against are coming on our left flank.

Either okafor is not helpiNG gabby in his defence. Or gabby is not getting tight enough and stopping the crosses.

26 Nov 2025 07:54:00
I think it's the former reason Ben. Which is why WG will be starting again soon. Him and DJ on the flanks will help us improve in both directions, but whether that alone can see an upturn in results is anyone's guess.
Chris, I know fella. I don't point fingers. It was just an blasé wave of the hand in a random direction! 😄.

25 Nov 2025 07:39:31
{Ed's Note - SamiKewell has posted a new article entitled, Liverpool FC Team Issues and Misjudged Expectations

25 Nov 2025 06:05:02
How many years contract did we give dcl? Was it three?

25 Nov 2025 06:46:19
36 months Aus 🤣
Just to make you feel worse on120 a week also


Had we paid Barcodes just 12 months of that contract too encourage them to signed him then it would have been a better deal for us i🤣.

25 Nov 2025 08:15:35
That must be what he means by deals in my sleep lol. What an idiot. 3 fing yrs of that. I’d prefer he gets a slight niggle that keeps him in the treatment room for three year. Although Farke would still play him probably.

25 Nov 2025 03:37:34
Very nervous about man city game, they got beat and be up to make amends, Haaland could destroy us.
Can’t see where points coming from in December, think DF be sacked before Xmas and for me, should’ve happened over the break.
Still think we can survive, think wolves and Burnley poor and so too west ham, they went 2 nil up but defended terribly in 2nd half and their keeper ariloa was impressive and saved them, still think they will be in bottom 3-5, just hope we can get above them or stay within 3-4 points of 16th
A couple of wins in JANUARY and can look different but needs at least 2 incoming players (and manager)
Will see if 69ers can step up, see what funds available, just thinking about James Mcatee at forest (ex city player) , not getting a game and could be worth a possible loan to buy, that CMF we crave and can make things happen, just a thought.

25 Nov 2025 07:27:51
That's a fair enough post, Melbourne, and Mcatee could be a good call. Think we were in for him before being blown outta the water on price again!?

25 Nov 2025 16:30:49
about £30m - £35m available in Jan from what I hear Melb. more if players sold e. g. Gnonto and Piroe.

25 Nov 2025 16:41:40
I think Pasc would be ahead of those 2 Alf, for being shoved out the door?

26 Nov 2025 07:48:42
Personally, I think DF should be shown the door before we let players go.
You never know, a new leader might actually play the players to their strengths and get more out of them
Both Gnonto and Piroe are goal scorers, something we desperately need are goals 🤔🤔.

26 Nov 2025 07:55:42
Fair points Leeroy!

24 Nov 2025 20:46:57
It seems to most of us that the issue is that the owners don't know much about football and what it takes to survive in the premier league.
The recruitment was poor at best, unnecessary signings for certain positions and lack of signings for others (we all know which) .
Absolutely stunned we signed DCL, what was it 4 goals in how long? No pace and abject finishing. Whoever recommended him to the board should have already left in shame.
And then if that wasn't bad enough we have a manger who is simply out of his depth, no inspiration, no plan B and if he stays till the end of the season we all know the line up for the final game and the tactics he'll attempt.

We'll be lucky to get 25 points at this rate.
Part of me is so hacked off by this all round ineptitude I could wish relegation on the 49ers as it what they deserve but as a fan of approaching 50 years I can't quite bring myself to wish that.
Anyway rant over and let's hope by some miracle we survive and learn lessons.

24 Nov 2025 21:14:36
And to rub zee salt in gaping wound
Mr Lewin on a reported 120 a week for being a flip to his own flop 🤦.

24 Nov 2025 22:42:12
After seeing the disallowed goal on TV which he handled, he could have just let it hit his chest to go in. Cost us again.

25 Nov 2025 03:23:45
He's useless and has now cost us a game.

Nmecha my main man 3 for 3.

25 Nov 2025 07:30:51
Admit you're Baz, Mo!? Even using the same terms now. And making as much sense.
DCL cost us that game? 🤦‍♂️.

25 Nov 2025 15:57:35
I'm not baz but baz should come back. Having different opinions is great, variety is the spice of life.

Farke cost us the game. DCL is a Pillock for not just chesting it or leaving it to go in. I bet James was fuming.

25 Nov 2025 16:46:21
Baz should come back? Jebus!?
It would've been fine if he only had a different opinion, but he chose to slag off people's careers, throw around insults, and even bring spouses into his insult sharing / abuse.
I know you're relatively new, but please don't suggest the return of someone as toxic as that, when you ain't even seen half of his scribbling!

25 Nov 2025 16:48:46
That’s funny, I didn’t know that mass copy and paste Of Farke Out, Aaronson out, DCL out was the variety and spice of life.
Baz your leader and the king of copy and paste would be having a field day with the exact same posts every day.

24 Nov 2025 17:23:38
When Football teams run into difficulties everyone scrambles for a reason however it is never quite that simple. If there was just one reason then the fix should be far less complicated however (as with Leeds) there are often many "problems" all requiring their own solution.
Whilst DF should take a lot of the blame I feel he was seriously let down by the club and in particular The recruiting team. Failure to get the targets and failure to land second choices with the required level of skill.
Whilst he definitely needs to ask himself some searching questions I fear the time for that may well have passed. I am a great believer in continuity at clubs it seems that his intransigence is having an adverse affect on every game. With his subs and selection faults causing us grief and his reluctance to change losing us points the man is committing occupational suicide. I therefore now feel that unless there is a major approach change, soon then the only future is a new manager. The who and the when? Well that will command a few column inches I bet.

PS If we do go down who would be a good candidate to bring us back up?

24 Nov 2025 18:51:05
I believe they are holding on to see who is around then when the January window opens the new manager can bring in who he wants. They will be working on who that will be now.

25 Nov 2025 07:39:44
2 good posts imo. Makes a refreshing change.
Your question Leodis is one that has been asked many times, and avoided by most, tho some have put forward suggestions. Those avoiding an answer probably doing so as ;
A) they don't have a credible answer
B) not willing to stick their necks out, which would get in the way of vitriol spouting.

The fact is, it's the most pertinent question right now. The only appointment of late that might have got a tune out of this squad is Dyche, and NOBODY wanted him at our club.

#bringbackbigsam.

25 Nov 2025 08:17:47
Farke would likely be out of a job still. Give him a year to get us back up.

24 Nov 2025 13:46:13
Cannot accept we cannot find someone better than DF that’s just too depressing for a Monday!

Looking at the table, it generally does not lie, especially after a dozen games, in which we’re on par (ahead of saints) with all three of the promoted teams who were relegated last season.

Squad wise we’re on a par with the teams we sit alongside in the relegation spots, probably could add West Ham in terms of having a similar poor squad.

But from a coaching perspective it’s not a coincidence that the weakest coaches in the epl all are currently managing the bottom three teams.

Some people have previously said Le Bris and Andrews may yet be of equal quality, time will tell.

Sorry I don’t buy DF is as good as it gets for us, Palace were 15th having lost 10 of 17 games after Roy Hodgson brilliant rescue act to keep them up the previous season.

Steve Parish said Palace have no money to talk off so “must be smart” like picking up Eze and Olise from championship and making them superstars.

And the game changer was the brilliant appointment of Glasner from Eintract Frankfurt (ex Red bull football) and with very little spend he’s turned Palace from perennial relegation fodder to major trophies and conference league football and that’s with losing his main stars year on year!

PSR and the obvious chasm between the financial clout of the top six clearly shows the ONLY way you can hope to bridge the divide is with the appointment of a really good ambitious but technically strong coach who wants to prove himself in the biggest league in world football.

Bournemouth and Palace are living proof of it being the only chance to make the next step and how it snowballs from the manager.

Glasner’s contract is up this year the 49ers should offer him a kings ransom, but of course we won’t because we’ve lucked out again with owners, I fear.

Both 49ers and Radz before them have never broken ground on improving the stadium, lots of talk, promises but have not increased capacity/ revenue, before we are established in the epl for two seasons.

Birmingham meanwhile hold my beer, let’s build a £1.2billion mega stadium and let’s submit plans now whilst we’re still in the championship!

One version is doing something as cheaply as possible with the option to flip a sale the latter one is billion pounds of investment that says we’re in it for the long term.

Both American owners but actions speak louder than words.

24 Nov 2025 14:56:57
Just to let anyone else who didn't know, the cacophony of boos yesterday when sky cameras stopped rolling told Farke, fans don't want him or Brendan anymore .

Farke out.

24 Nov 2025 15:20:52
Great post Class.

I’d love to know where the money from the sales last summer and the red bull money has all gone.

The stadium stuff doesn’t have any impact on PSR so I’m lost as to how we can only spend £100m.

I mean, sell the naming rights to Thorpe Arch and generate a tonne of cash for a January assault. Be a waste of cash though given the crap recruitment team and tactically inept coach we have at the helm.

I’ve actually got to a point where I hate Farke, his drivel on talk sport today about Brendan’s mental health effected by the fans wanting him subbed off is him just deflecting again from his own inept ability to read a game and a reflection of his toilet level in game management.

I also feel like we’ve somehow managed to get lumbered with another false dawn regarding the owners.

We are a laughing stock to other fans and I’m sick of it always happening to my club.

24 Nov 2025 15:47:42
There are too many happy clappers online and in the stands that won't let the Farke out'ers to get too vocal.

Farke has gaslit the gullible fans and we can only hope the inept, useless, clueless 49ers change as quickly as possible.

Though I'm not holding out hope as Farke should have been flushed weeks ago.

24 Nov 2025 16:14:26
Maybe we should take a leaf from Wendies fans and no one turn up for the Chelsea match. That would get the 49ers attention.

24 Nov 2025 18:39:57
My seat is in the West Stand, and the facilities in there have hardly changed since the 1960s. I had to sit in the Cheese Wedge for a cup tie a couple of seasons ago, and it made the West Stand look like the new Spurs stadium! We all love Elland Road, but it is a ground stuck in the past.

The new plans look really impressive, but that's what they are, just plans. I hope I am wrong, but I can't see the 49rs doing anything about it.

25 Nov 2025 00:12:21
Don’t consider myself as you put it Mot, a happy clapper nor a gullible Leeds fan and judging by the huge outpouring of Farke out on this forum I would say that there are not many of us Leeds fans who would prefer Farke to stay and see his job through.
Just because the majority of Leeds fans are clamoring feverishly for Farke to be sacked immediately, it definitely doesn’t mean we will stay up with another coach nor does it mean that Farke will not keep us up if he stays.
In fact with the players we have I can not see any other coach doing anything better than what Farke is already doing.

I find it really curious and strange that so many on here believe we should be doing a lot better and be placed further up the league than we are, especially with the distinct lack of quality in our squad.
In my opinion it is clear as day the difference in quality when we play against teams like Villa, they don’t even have to get out of second gear to get a result against us.
So what makes so many fans believe we are a lot better than we are? and the only thing that’s holding us back is Daniel Farke!?

25 Nov 2025 06:15:49
OP not surprised to hear you say that
I put forward complete opposite is what most fans believe.
I. woupd say 99% of fans on here knew it was going to be a. total battle all Seez

Its your belief only that we felt table or higher was possible

I. said. it. too you here in July what we had bought was going to make our survival even harder, you disagreed

Lewin has been a disaster, you disagreed then, I also questioned Okafor, can't remember your stance on him . Lewin makes even Numchuck look like Harry Kane

So. again I reiterate I certainly knew what was heading our way . Farke has lost it OP, . have you been at ER recently to hear fans reaction to him during games?

Whatever chance we have is diminishing with each extra game Farke +. Underwood stay here

Out. out. out.

25 Nov 2025 07:45:05
Happy clappers. Thanks, Baz, or are you the other one? Let's avoid going down that route again, eh?

25 Nov 2025 08:00:03
I’ve read fans posts on this forum Chris that thought we would be changing for a European place this season.
I don’t come on this forum to be in a competition of who’s right or wrong about their predictions. It doesn’t interest me in the slightest bit, sure Îve said some things that haven’t worked out but so has everyone else including yourself.

My opinion is and no opinion on here is correct, is that the 49er’s chose Daniel Farke over the summer to be the coach this season and i think given with what he has to work with, which is very challenging in the respect of quality, is the right decision to do the job of keeping us in the premiership.

Whining and whinging that we should of bought better players is just a waste of breath as far as I’m concerned when it’s pretty obvious we could not afford or attract good quality players to our club over the summer.

Chris you can make this story into a, I was right all along if you wish but I won’t be taking that bait to get involved.

I’m just writing my opinions on here, I’m not asking you to agree with it and you have the choice to just skip over my posts if you wish.

I won’t hold it against you I promise 😉.

25 Nov 2025 08:38:38
OP, see this is what irks. me. to a degree with you at times, I CERTAINLY not claiming oh I am right. your. wrong, na na. na


What I am replying to is at times you do come. across as you being slightly superior and a bit condescending

Telling us all what an awful lot of. ys. took for. granted already

Then you seem to change narrative then when tide turns on earlier comments

That's fine as you say, we can all make mistakes, but you do come across a bit aloof in your delivery of change in opinions then


Obviously I know nothing about you in reality, all I can comment on is what I read

You also asked, who else could we get


Well using that logic, we would still be with Neil Warnock

No one knew Iraola or Glasner
No 1 here anyway I assume.

25 Nov 2025 09:57:36
I’m sorry that you think my posts are aloof and condescending. I’m nobody’s mate on here, I don’t know anyone, not even their real name, that Is why perhaps I don’t come across as your mate or someone you know in the sense of how I write my posts.
It’s just a sterile non attached way if you like of delivering my posts on this forum.
If I met you face to face our conversation would be completely different, I can guarantee you that.

Concerning Iraola, we applied for his services at our club and he turned the offer down if you remember.
Everyone wants now a Iraola / Glasner type coach, great, go and find him if you can, then try to convince him to come and join a newly promoted, relegation fodder football team.

I’m always one for hoping and dreaming for better days, but my feet are firmly planted in the ground with the understanding of what we have got and what we don’t have and not likely to get.

If posters like you Chris and others feel irked by my posts then don’t be, please understand that this is a internet football forum where I enjoy to post my opinions about our football club and also read other Leeds fans opinions even if they contradict mine.
I say if you believe in your opinion about our club that's great, stick with it.

There is no all knowing football oracle on this forum that I can promise you. Not even Berm.

25 Nov 2025 10:20:58
Also I’ve never swayed from my opinion on Farke being our coach, so I don’t know where you’ve found that from?

We are in a very similar position as we were with Bielsa. Obviously two different coach’s but the same rhetoric was being bleated out like he’s stubborn and only sticks to plan A etc etc.
I didn’t want Bielsa to leave because I thought he would manage to keep the club up, just like Marsch did, by the skin of our teeth.
With some better players the next season it could of been more promising than the catastrophe that Marsch led us into the next season.
Getting rid of Farke now will in my opinion sign our fate for relegation and a very uncertain future in the championship.
One that I refuse to subscribe to.

25 Nov 2025 11:07:43
I use Iraola as an example, obviously we supposedly tried to get him

So, yes they're out there, these unheard of managers

I just cannot except your logic that if Farkes removed we are finished

I suppose just same way you don't accept others that if Farkes. stays we are finished
On your delivery style

Yes of. course we don't know one another, but I always try to be respectful, regardless of said fact


I.

25 Nov 2025 13:15:06
Defo NOT aloof OR condescending. If anything, OP has spent most of his time on here being told that he's talking absolute cack, and then getting the brunt of personal insults (tho not from current posters) .
There is however a structure and approach to his posts which isn't overtaken by emotion, flow logically, and are quite matter of fact.

I can only guess that this is being misinterpreted.
Clearly there's a conflict of opinion, which is fine, but there's not much wrong with his explanations behind his reasoning and opinion in my view.

25 Nov 2025 14:31:18
Many thanks for that Bright, kind and understanding words from you.
It’s the world we live now, text messages with or without the assistance of emojis can often be misinterpreted to friends even.

You are respectful Chris and I don’t have an issue with you at all. It’s a banter site and I accept strong responses to any post of my opinions.

I try to find the ground in my opinions that are not saturated by the overall opinion of fans. The complexities of football and its management is probably beyond anything you can possibly imagine. A manager’s existence these days "is" the most expendable in football today. Do I think that is correct? No I don’t.

The baying mob with the media and the content creators stirring the emotions of fans, owners often succumb to a decision they do not want make.

The success rate of flipping your coach for newly promoted teams to the premiership will get smaller and smaller in a very short time. The last two seasons have shown already that difficulty and gap is increasing rapidly.

Farke contrary to what others might think, in my opinion has made a reasonable start to this season and although we have some tough matches coming up, there is a possibility of still sticking to the target of a point a game.
The other strugglers will also have to play very tough games, let’s not forget that.

25 Nov 2025 17:25:18
I understand the pains and frustrations in Class’s opening post but you can’t hide from the fact and reality of where we are.
In reference to Roy Hodgson, he still had very decent quality players to work with and I’m certain Oliver Glasner would not of come to Palace if he had a squad like ours.

A little more understanding should be given to Daniel Farke with what he has to work with.
I have I imagine far less expectations of how this season will pan out for us compared to many others and I am able to appreciate and understand the difficulty of where we are and what is realistically achievable.

None of us want to see Leeds Utd relegated again, but the cold hard truth is that it is very likely as a promoted team.

Hard relentless work as a team is our only hope. A United Leeds and that includes the fans is paramount in our survival this season.
Division and sackings will be our ruin.

24 Nov 2025 11:45:11
Has he been sacked yet?

24 Nov 2025 13:21:33
49ers been practicing at Rangers MoT so doubt it will be long 😁.

24 Nov 2025 13:22:08
Not yet. Chill mot. Plenty more games to lose before axe needed. Jeez. You are sooo impatient. Opti wants to stick with the devil we know as our best chance of survival. Makes sense.

24 Nov 2025 14:15:02
Vid, I was hoping that their 4 run win streak of a new manager would spur them into action.

😂 Aus. Let's get relegated with Farke so he can bring us back up THEN we can sack him. Just ignore the wasted four years at the club because we're all immortal.

24 Nov 2025 17:24:58
Let’s not blame farke he has never been the one to be blamed despite being out of his depth
And should be sacked
Blame parag

And underwood the worst director of football in premier league history get the banners out it’s those two who need to take responsibility.

24 Nov 2025 22:07:55
If we go down this year and promoted the next Farkes contract will be up anyway MoT.

24 Nov 2025 10:13:08
On a more positive note, if we can keep hold of most, or all, of our players we have a half decent Championship side that will probably do well going forward into 2026. Not straight away of course.

24 Nov 2025 10:38:57
We will storm the champ Hess with these players and a decent striker. But been there done that right 👍.

24 Nov 2025 11:12:10
Hess here's where it gets so funny then

Majority of those players then will genuinely believe they're too good for Champo 🤦,

It's mind boggling how it will happen but it certainly will,

Qué Sera Sera now from me, it actually ruins your week, and yet nothing changes regardless of it all .


No doubt we will get some usual " we all in this together " muck now this week from some players or worse again from Farke.

24 Nov 2025 12:38:50
The players we signed over the summer have probably got similar cluases in their contracts that Orta and Co. agreed with 20% wage reduction and can leave on loan if we get relegated. Think we'll start seeing more and more of this sort of contract in the prem, it's a way of attracting half decent players to a lower half prem team.

24 Nov 2025 13:25:45
Here here Chris. It does ruin our week.
And yeah. The irony of storming the championship because not prem quality.
And there are people to blame right.
You lot pay good dollar for this rubbish show.
The people in the know. Don’t know.

24 Nov 2025 13:42:56
The 3 relegated teams this season probably thought they'd storm the Championship this season, but as of now Ipswich are 8th, Southampton 15th and Sheffield Utd 22nd - not many storms there. If we go down again we'll lose any half decent players we do have (eg Harry Gray) , the Elland Rd expansion plans will be postponed maybe indefinately, and we could be back down there for a few seasons or more.

Even tho we lost, the performance yesterday was an improvement on the 2 previous games so fingers (and everything else) crossed.

24 Nov 2025 14:22:53
For more years than I care to remember we've all been crying out for a half decent striker. One time when the window closed and we'd failed again to sign one we were promised "sorry but we won't make the same mistake again" and then they did. Whilst I'm doubtful about the value of the xG metric, I note that in all but 3 of our games this season (Arsenal, Brighton and Forest) we've registered higher xG than the opposition (eg yesterday 1.52 versus 1.21 for Villa) but still only won 3 of them.

The blindingly obvious problem is that when we create scoring opportunities we can't convert them into goals. Until we find someone capable of putting the ball in the onion bag consistently we'll continue to struggle.

24 Nov 2025 09:56:18
Farke banging on about mental health now and how little Brendan may be affected by negative online comments. Is this why the lad is undroppable because he doesn’t want to hurt his feelings? I despair I really do.
DF has previously slated Ramazani Okafor and Gnonto for losing possession but little Brenny constantly gets a pass.

I’ve never seen a player lose possession so often. It beggars belief how often he is shoved off the ball or passes it straight to the opposition.
Will he start the next game? Baring injury or possibly a fake injury then one hundred percent he will and Farke will have dug his own grave a few more feet.

24 Nov 2025 10:41:18
I can’t stand the bloke. Don’t like what he says. What he does and what he thinks. Waste of space. Ba is earnest. Tries his best but above his level. But as you say. Farke happy to slate some players but not his bf Brendan.