Leeds banter 6

22 Nov 2025 13:28:49
Seems to me our main concession of goals is via a cross finding an unmarked player in plenty space. Like to think we can avoid this against Villa. Hopeful!

22 Nov 2025 13:55:39
How. What’s your strategy white?

22 Nov 2025 15:59:07
Daniel. How about - Mark any unmarked player in space?

22 Nov 2025 17:33:26
I think Farke prefers zonal marking, rather than man to man
Hence our generosity at leaving plenty of free space for the opposition to attack 🤔🤔.

22 Nov 2025 09:13:35
Was leaving it to someone else to mention the report that shows the league as it could / should be if Xg was anything like accurate! But hey ho.
The gambling based stat / americanisation of the game thro naff stats would have us up in 7th, and the superb transfer kings of Sunderland down in 18th.


Now I realise that most will home in on the 9 issue, but for me, it's that PLUS the other players in offensive positions getting their shooting boots on / 50pence heads rounded! As has been the case for what seems like donkey's, we continue to miss clear cut opportunities across the board at an alarming level imo, and that means they all need to step it up!

22 Nov 2025 10:54:37
Fair post Bright in particular the 50pence analogy, cannot remember a premier team missing more close range headers than us.

But I’m not really one to comment, in my prime I was in the middle of a trial at Southampton, and at the time I fancied myself as the next Chris waddle and the coaching staff were running set piece drills to improve our heading prowess.

At the end of the drill I was called across to the coaching team, which I took to be a positive until they showed me the yes, hand held, camcorder footage!

They summarised it as follows…. I possessed good movement, was adept at finding space in the box, but given my starting height of six foot four inches they had no video evidence of me getting higher than six foot five inches!

Don’t call us, we’ll call you.

Never mentioned that bit to my dad on the long drive home though.

22 Nov 2025 12:31:58
I’d have you over dcl any day class. You were wronged.
I’m not going to comment on the xg bright through fear of repetition.

22 Nov 2025 15:09:42
Great tale, Class! 😂.

22 Nov 2025 15:42:38
True sadly bright 😔.

22 Nov 2025 17:01:33
To clarify, that wasn't meant in a bad way; must still be a bit of a gut wrencher to be fair! 😞.

22 Nov 2025 18:43:54
Oh think it hilarious now Brighty, there were 16 of us on that trial they took only one lad who went onto play a few games for Charlton and he was a million miles better than the rest of us, put together, I soon learnt my future lay with predicting our results, and that’s gone well, not!

23 Nov 2025 09:17:02
XG is a useless metric, can't understand why some people pay such attention to it. Today Bournemouth XG 4.08, West Ham 0.65, result 2:2. Liverpool 1.93, Forest 1.58, result 0:3.

23 Nov 2025 12:25:06
Pretty sure I'd agreed with that sentiment JR.

22 Nov 2025 06:49:46
Premier League clubs have voted to overhaul the league’s financial regulations from the start of the 2026-27 season.

Squad cost ratio (SCR) will replace the league’s current profitability and sustainability rules (PSR) , which limit club losses to a maximum of £105million ($137m) over a three-year period.

22 Nov 2025 07:14:54
Does that help or hinder us Alf. I read it but couldn’t really understand it.

22 Nov 2025 08:17:06
Under SCR, a club’s squad-costs (player and coach wages + agents’ fees + transfer amortisation) must be kept to around 85% of its football-related revenue (ticket sales, TV deals, sponsorships, merchandising, player sales) .
This makes the rules more predictable and harder to “game” with last-minute sales. It also rewards clubs that grow their revenue, as higher income means a bigger spending allowance.

In short: PSR looked backwards at losses, while SCR looks forwards at how sustainably a club is spending based on what it actually earns.
It would possibly help us as our future earnings as a EPL club would be greater than our historic earnings in the Champ. We have a large revenue as a club, however, overheads are high also so that might balance.
Definitely still favours the status quo though.

22 Nov 2025 09:15:40
Also makes the proposed ground expansion a bigger positive! Plus expanding our market reach thro 49ers and AO!

22 Nov 2025 10:19:02
Some inaccuracies Alf. I believe it's the profit on sale of a player that is included in the turnover figure. This will often be significantly less than the sale proceeds and could even be a negative figure if there is a loss on sale.
Both systems PSR and SCR are based on information in the financial statements, that one focuses on losses and the other on revenues makes little difference. It would stop clubs like Chelsea fudging things by selling their ladies' team (possibly) .


Finally, both systems favour clubs that are financially more successful as they are both based on the P&L so in that sense any system will favour the bigger clubs who in general are financially stronger. If there were exemptions for clubs like ours for say the first two years after promotion (to either set of rules) then that's something that would make a major difference but don't hold your breath.

22 Nov 2025 10:39:08
Well we voted against Aus along with Brighton, Palace and Brentford, so I think that shows in terms of riches the divide is only going to increase over time.

They have voted to ban selling assets back to subsidiaries of the clubs (hotels, women’s team) but of course the proverbial horse has already bolted for the likes of Chelsea who flagrantly scammed the PSR regulations. And don’t hold your breath on Citeh receiving their sanctions.

Super league sadly, is firmly working already the addition of foreign clubs only a matter of time.

22 Nov 2025 11:43:24
Shame it won't help us next season when we're in the champ.

22 Nov 2025 12:34:09
Got it. Didn’t realise it was so simple 😩🤔.

22 Nov 2025 00:53:42
So conflicted on Sundays game as I hate to see Leeds lose but I truly feel in order for Leeds to have any prayer of surviving Farke needs to be replaced immediately but with the owners having really disappointed me with their backing of the manager after the Forest misery following on from the Brighton and Burnley shocking defeats and countless examples of truly bizarre game management then it looks like it's going to have to take a heavy home defeat and a home crowd's wrath for the owners to finally wake up and realise that Farke has taken Leeds as far as he can.

I think the odds of survival with a new manager are still slim but at least it's worth trying a new approach and going down with a fight instead of a whimper which sadly under Farke is what we are seeing

And of course the owners need to step up too and pull our all the stops to strengthen the squad in January and try and prove they are worthy of owning an EPL club because the evidence so far is they are not.

22 Nov 2025 03:57:04
I think a defeat v villa will likely see the axe come crushing down. I just think they should have done it two weeks ago and utilised the break rather than give new bloke baptism of fire. Makes zero sense.

22 Nov 2025 06:57:24
There are multiple ways of looking at it. Yes bringing a new manager in now could have given time to work with the depleted squad (as most players on international duty) but then the next 5 games results could leave the squad demoralised and any hope of a 'bounce' gone. Or maybe the team don't have much hope of getting anything from the next 5 anyway and it wouldn't effect them.

One thing is for sure, the 9ers won't get rid of DF unless they get someone they want as a replacement. They won't just get rid for the sake of it at this point so if their targets aren't available then DF stays on regardless.

21 Nov 2025 16:15:12
A full squad available for Sunday, so let's have a totally committed performance. No excuses. I would like to see James start, and Gnoto and Gray involved.

21 Nov 2025 16:27:58
Lol yeah Feath but from DFs comments don't be surprised if DJ and Willy don't start and BA does, feels like he is going to put them on the bench.

21 Nov 2025 19:50:11
Bang right vid BA will definitely start.

21 Nov 2025 21:52:25
Full squad available, and I’m sure BA will still start!

DJ fit enough to start for his country, but not his club.

If BA starts over DJ and has another shocker of a game and we don’t get any points on Sunday, that will be the straw that breaks the camels back.

Got to start like a house on fire Sunday and attack at pace to take an early 2-0 lead. If we play the dull, slow build up play DF has adopted in the Prem, I fear my weekend will be ruined.

21 Nov 2025 23:16:47
Farke has already got his excuses in today. James is good but we can't let him play because it will hurt Brenda's feelings (I ain't joking).

And Gnonto can't play because he's too young (not joking either).

Go watch his interview from today and be ready to shake your head in disbelief.

22 Nov 2025 02:09:45
It’s astonishing. Anybody know if his family has a history of madness?

22 Nov 2025 12:15:02
Oh my fecking god, how can anyone trust or support DF after hearing that interview un-bloody-believable.

22 Nov 2025 17:42:58
Starting to wonder if BA is being picked by our American owners as a poster boy.

21 Nov 2025 15:52:30
I’m starting to think Farke doesn’t get the club or its supporters at all.

What’s that phrase, stop peeing down my back whilst telling me it’s just raining.

In his presser today, highlights included,

The supporters all thought we were safe from relegation after West Ham win, so are now over reacting after Florists defeat. (Oh where we had better possession stats than Forest)

The players are giving everything just now, he’s very proud of them and my particular favourite……

After poor performances you need reactions but you need to stay positive.

This is what I want to make sure. It will always be our DNA to be proactive!

Err maybe tell the players that before the next game, and not just the press Daniel. Because the majority of Leeds supporters watching thought it was woeful.

21 Nov 2025 17:03:08
Yes class he's totally mute throughout games, not saying you can't be a good manager unless your constantly berating lads from touch,

But Danny is so full of why's, when's, how's during pressers, then when plan clearly goes out window during games, he becomes a mute on touchline then

Doesn't help his cause then by spouting rubbish then post match comments about what we done right, even after a other dire performance

Daniel show us fans it really means summit to you throughout 90mins Sunday, not just whatever words you speak in dressing room at half time

If any at all.

21 Nov 2025 17:31:12
In fairness Class the fans already want him gone, think it’s a bit of nervousness and self preservation on his behalf.

21 Nov 2025 19:53:13
I was calling for him to be given a chance in the premiership, but I was wrong he is a championship manager at best and we need a change now not at Christmas.

21 Nov 2025 20:01:43
Probably protecting his players OP, whilst not surprising, but personally I find him hugely frustrating, but he has full fit squad at his disposal so hopefully he will surprise us all on Sunday.

Just cannot see it from DF however much I want to see it happen.

22 Nov 2025 02:08:31
I don’t really get the recruitment or owners or Farke. It’s all rotten in Denmark. As we touched on previously for a group of men who seemingly know what they are doing. They are giving a very good demonstration that is not the case.

I don’t know what’s happened to the team and performances and tactics. It’s almost if Farke has decided to try and defend all season as our best chance of staying up. And we are not good enough defensively to do that. As has been proven.

20 Nov 2025 12:13:05
I’m starting to believe that Farke has the owners totally fooled.

20 Nov 2025 12:48:28
I think they’ve got each other fooled. Owners think they are smart. Recruitment think they nailed it. Farke thinks his king and knows what he is doing and players obey orders. That’s the worrying part. They are all wrong.
Weird eh. Cause they are rich they think they are beyond learning. They have achieved a big bank balance so obviously know what they are doing. Not.

20 Nov 2025 15:10:28
I’m not sure people become rich by being arrogant and ignorant Aus, I think if you had that kind of attitude you’d never get to the top.

The 49er’s are no mugs in the sports world either, you could say American NFL is not the same as Premiership football, but I bet the basic mechanics behind it all is probably very similar.

The Saudis and the Yanks are the two major ownerships i would imagine in the Premiership.

20 Nov 2025 15:32:58
Ausman it’s very much a case of dammed if you do or dammed if you don’t wouldn’t want there job would you🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️.

20 Nov 2025 21:35:10
If you could get rich being arrogant and ignorant Aus would be a billionaire!

Only joshing mate ;)

20 Nov 2025 22:53:08
I think Farke has evidence he and Paraag went threes on a bastard.

20 Nov 2025 23:46:52
Eon musk. Donald trump. The list is endless.
Break is over and back to business.

21 Nov 2025 08:21:58
You might be right Aus so why don’t all the Leeds fans buy shares in our club and become like many German Bundesliga teams as sort of non profit organization governed by its members.
If you and others do the the same then you won’t have to moan about the owners, or maybe you like doing just that?

21 Nov 2025 09:52:54
I like doing it opti. Rather criticise others and not myself. I’m not rich. Don’t know jack about running a football team or business. They apparently do. So they cop it.

21 Nov 2025 11:25:32
Know where you’re coming from Aus 😉.

21 Nov 2025 13:26:26
We all got to vent I think. And it’s apparent that there is more and more venting.
I have a plan Farke and 49ers. Shut us up.
Do your job. Keep us up.
I guarantee you that point per game is long gone come next 4 games.

20 Nov 2025 09:37:04
Can we for once hoof the ball out of play near their corner flag. Block off throw to goalie and put them under pressure from any kick off. Preferably the first. Rather than pass it tippy tappy back and put ourselves and goalie under pressure?

20 Nov 2025 12:16:02
Not under DF I wouldn't imagine.

20 Nov 2025 06:36:13
It could be argued that all the bottom 6 will struggle to get more than a draw here and there maybe over next 4 fixtures. Even though if my calculations are correct we could be in 19th place on Sunday. Worse case scenario.

20 Nov 2025 16:08:17
Only if Wet Spam win away at Bournemouth, Florists win away at Liverpool and Burnley get at least a draw at home to Chelski. That's a proper worse case scenario!

19 Nov 2025 18:57:53
I think whatever happens with the manager, an even bigger problem is the recruitment, there needs to be drastic changes made. Underwood and his mates are out of their depth.

19 Nov 2025 21:24:22
Agree Mick, not fit for purpose at a PL club.

19 Nov 2025 22:56:09
Agree. Tbh. I think only gabby and Longstaff are what you could call prem starters. Poor return for the money spent.

20 Nov 2025 06:28:35
Yep said it before to work so hard to get back to the Prem and have such a poor inexperienced recruiting team is scandalous the 49s have to take most of the blame for that.

20 Nov 2025 12:17:15
Having a bigger name for a manager would help with that though. DF is no draw whatsoever for players and that was one of the issues we had in summer.

20 Nov 2025 15:39:48
Lot of stick from Leeds fans about Sunderland’s recruitment in the summer would seam to be a great job done in the end what we would give to have that lot now.

20 Nov 2025 17:21:11
Recruitment has been good enough to keep us up. Sad but true.

21 Nov 2025 14:15:23
I’m not sure mot. Admire your opti.