Leeds Rumours Archive February 17 2013

 

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17 Feb 2013 22:54:35
Reckon we need to show warnock a little dignity here. he's had enormous success over the years and was probably promised a lot more support from bates and then gfh, than he actually got. If he stays or goes this season its fine by me. I just hope whoever replaces him is given a better chance of succeeding.

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18 Feb 2013 05:08:48
No because he won't change anything and keeps playing his mates like brown who every1 can see is rubbish is rubbish them players like green en tinge en Barkley who he sent back carnt get a game

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18 Feb 2013 06:26:46
I think Warnock has to go. His team choice is nearly always wrong. Sundays game white down the wing (he's not a winger and never will be) I would of left Warnock out of the team.
Then leaving morison on the bench was another mistake.
I feel Warnock is past it now.
I would get new manager in now while there is still a small chance of getting to playoffs but tell the new manager pressure is off and his job is to stay up making life easy removing nerves.

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To the first post, I am totally with you on that! You buy to what budget you get given and unfortunately for some unknown reason after selling our best player ( Snoddy ) he was given very little.
The chants from some of our moronic supporters were unbeleivable! Our beef is not with him, its our friend Mr Bates and the boys at the helm.
I really do hope there is a plan going on that we are not aware of! PS apart from the few people our support was immense yesterday!
LUFC KEK

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All season long we ( As LUFC fans ) have been subjected to absolutely awful to watch, hoof it & chase it football - That my friends IS Warnocks fault.

You could put up with paying your hard earned to watch this awful style of football IF we were actually winning games and up at the top of the league.

If ( Due to the lack of money ) we must be a side with ambition no better than mid table mediocrity, then at least make the football pleasing on the eye and worth watching.

Keep going like this and the crowds will struggle to get above 10k before long!

Mr Warnock : You are not wanted at our club - Please go - NOW!

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I did, but no more. The guy really is clueless. Irrespective of if we have money or not, I honestly believe I could put a better first 11 out there. hall would be on the wing, Poleon would be up front, drop McCormack back 10 yards and allow him freedom to roam. Habibbou used as the target man for Poleon. Bring back Thompson from loan, play Ashdowne more frequently. Etc, etc.

The crime for me is that he hasn't tried these things already.

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Quite simple, if the fans continue to stay away then the team will dwindle away. Have to get behind the team and manager. it shocks me how quickly we have given up on our team and manager. shocking.

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I know everyone is entitled to an opinion but if you can't see Warnock is part of the problem at our club you're deluded. Poor signings, poor team selection, bad decisions on the pitch, stubbornness and arrogance. Good managers can get teams to challenge in this division without money - Norwich, Southampton, Swansea etc through energy and organization. Bye bye Warnock. Rob W.

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You can't judge GFH yet. Give them a summer at the very least. You realistically can't achieve anything in less than 2 years with new owners, let alone 2 months.

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Respect?! He got 7 promotions in 30 years of management, most of them at lower league lel, (Simon Grayson has 3 promotions to his name in just 6 years of management). We have lost another year by indulging Warnock's ego. Is Leeds United run for his benefit? Part of any manager's job is to be persuasive with the board, he has failed emphatically to be effective in the transfer market in two windows and with something like 1. 3 points per game since he took over, is statistically one of the worst managers the club has ever had. Part of the demise of our club is the passive acceptance by fans of what we get and that will continue to be exploited by our 'investors'. Warnock should go now and a younger manager with a clear vision for the short and mid term future brought in, though with the type of owner/'investors' we attract, particularly while Ken Batesis is still around, I suspect this will not happen and that our suffering and ridicule will continue.

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Original poster, Yes we probably do!
We also need GFH to come clean with us.
Have they got the money, not just to run the club, make a profit by all means, but also invest with some big money signings.
Speculate to accumulate. Season over now, let's build for next season, tell the fans what you (GFH) are going to do. Keep us fans up to date with news. because if you do not, you'll make a massive loss & your share holders will not like that. Come on GFH make LUFC great again, You can only win!!

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18 Feb 2013 14:20:45
Fingers are being pointed at the wrong place. Neil Warnock has done well to keep the ship afloat during a hugely destructive take-over. Both sides, GFH & Bates are to blame for taking so long.

There is more going on in the background than we will ever know. The charm offensive put on by GFH was so sickly sweet it could make you vomit. No substance towards team strengthening at all. We could do without being told anything, so long as we can see the team getting stronger.

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True thoughts on Warnock in terms of poistives and negatives from a genuine home and away fan:

Positives first: 1. Straight talking, 2. Superb promotion experience, 3. Met him and comes across as a decent genuine bloke

Negatives: 1. Terrible style of football, not enough shots on target and poor if any use of subs, 2. Arrogant from the touch line with travelling fans and it gets up our noses, 3. Not honest enough with fans about performances and too often deflects poor performance on refs, 4. Lost the fans and you just can't do that, whoever you are (His manner at Barnsley was the worst away; Boro away wasnt clever either when he sarcastically clapped us all when we pointed out it was time to try a sub) 5. And I do not blame him for number 5, he got mugged by Bates and it appears by GFH. but jury still out on them until Summer transfer dealings.

Summary - I imagine as a bloke in a pub he would be a bloke you would like, but in the role at Leeds he just has not delivered. Go now with a little dignity and accept this was one job too many. I also admire and believe his statement that he would help Leeds in any way he can from now till end of season. Good luck in retirement but to reiterate this job did not come off Neil. thanks for trying. From a Genuine Leeds fan who probably speaks for most

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Sorry to argue with some of those who think we've been ONLY playing hoof it football, but some of the goals we have scored have been quality. The one against Chelsea was top notch. Funny though, both players involved are no longer with us. Mr Warnock is a great man motivator - the two cup runs are proof of that - and if all he can afford are the Brown's of this world, then that's all he can work with. We have proved that in any given 90 minutes we are a match to some Premier League clubs. The problem is consistency and if he believes Brown is more consistent than Barclay, then that's why he plays him. The worry I have is that are we looking at a future without Lees and Byram and Poleon. If so, we know what kind of club we have going forward, and that's a club that's NOT going forward. Who will I blame, then - not the manager. cnvsb

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It's funny that someone said Southampton have spent nothing, Jack Cork 750k, Rickie Lambert 1m, Schneiderlin 1.2m, Fonte 1.2m, Kelvin Davis 2m, Richardson 450k, Fox 2m

Yeah they've spent nothing, fair play to adkins he's worked a miracle given that he's only spent 10m+ on his team to get promoted.

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Will you all stop falling out! Simply put we need to see the back off Warnock. We need a manager that can produce a team that can play the football we as Leeds fans deserve, teams like Revie, Wilkinson and O'Leary built. MOT

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18 Feb 2013 17:03:43
I agree warnock has got the point and by what's been said GFH has too so what good is bullying warnock going to do! fair enough ge the point across but put just think how you would feel with thousands of fans singing you out, I think he took it well I don't think I would have been able to take it. so leave off now I think he's said he will go, now its down to GFH!

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Why is everyone pitying Warnock? He has wasted what little money we have had to spend. Look at the players HE has bought and doesn't play for whatever reason Hall, Drury, Pearse and recently Tongue money that could have paid for Chris Woods wages or any other decent player that 'was just too expensive' for us. Not only that but he signs a fantastic young prospect in Barkley but insists on playing him out of position , if at all. Yes his previous record has been very good but that was then not at a time when he is looking to retire, he had passion then , now it's just a final wage packet. Thanks but no thanks Neil. You pick the team, you play them out of position and its you that has wasted the megre transfer budget.

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Barclay was a loan player from Everton and he played him in a free midfield role his position his loan period was up and for some reason chose not to re-new as a newspaper said if you sell your best players you will not win anything think we have proved that

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17 Feb 2013 22:06:06
From a very good source!!
Nw to leave in morning, looking at getting uwe rosler in from brentford, leeds in talks tonight with them about compo!!

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Thats not true,
From a very good source is that GFH have contacted Nigel Adkins about replacing NW.

I do not know when it is whether it is in the summer or whether it is now. But they are waiting for a reply.

So your sources are wrong.

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Thats not true,
From a very good source is that GFH have contacted Nigel Adkins about replacing NW.

I do not know when it is whether it is in the summer or whether it is now. But they are waiting for a reply.

So your sources are wrong.

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Thats not true,
From a very good source is that GFH have contacted Nigel Adkins about replacing NW.

I do not know when it is whether it is in the summer or whether it is now. But they are waiting for a reply.

So your sources are wrong.

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Thats not true,
From a very good source is that GFH have contacted Nigel Adkins about replacing NW.

I do not know when it is whether it is in the summer or whether it is now. But they are waiting for a reply.

So your sources are wrong.

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Thats not true,
From a very good source is that GFH have contacted Nigel Adkins about replacing NW.

I do not know when it is whether it is in the summer or whether it is now. But they are waiting for a reply.

So your sources are wrong.

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Well, that man isn't the right man for Leeds United, previously worked in Norway and not vert sucessful here.

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Everybody knows, you need lots & lots of money spent on building a squad of quality players to get out of the championship and a lot more to stay out of it & stay in the premiership. look at cardiff/leicester/hull city & watford-money is the key. we've proved it that the players at lufc are not committed enough or good enough or both. plus you cannot sell your best players & expect to go up, especially when you do not replace with the same quality. howson, snodders, becchio, johnson were quality players to get you out of the championship, but you would have to buy better to just stay in the premiership.
come on leeds, let's build for next season, if we fight off relegation this season!!

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17 Feb 2013 20:17:23
Warnock quoted today saying if the new owners, GFH Capital, want him to step down before his contract expires in the summer, he will!

He has also said there is no way he wants to stay in the Championship next season!

Seems obvious to me, get him out now and give someone who wants the job a chance to turn this season around, or at the very least get a handle on the squad ready for next season. It's a complete no brainer, surely!

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Agree, but I don't like the fact that Alex Mcleish was sat a couple of rows back from papa Smurf today. I'd rather have Warnock than the Big Yin, he comes then we are in trouble!

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Warnock is an honourable man. I really don't think he deserves to be given the hard time he is. Sure we are not where we belong but has Warnock had the support he needed from the outset to get us up

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Hoofball and Mr Brown does he deserve our support NO! Shut the door behind you Neil!

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17 Feb 2013 19:03:14
Surely Warnocks response at the end of the game surely mean he is ready to walk any time soon, hopefully gfh see that he has lost the fans and destroyed our season, and thinks it has been a sucess due to our cup runs, which have been good but he picked the wrong prioritys at the begining of the season!

ADKINS IN FOR ME!

leeds4life

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17 Feb 2013 19:26:51
Gfh might just let Warnock finish the season with the expectation of staying up.

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Poyet for me but I know we would struggle to pay compo, so settle for Adkins, warnock spent more than most recent leeds managers as to go

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WARNOCK will remain until we statistically are out of the playoffs and have nothing to play for. Then I can see a new manager coming in to 'Play' around with the team for a few last games and develop for next season. Why would you offload for now for any other reason? You honestly believe any other manager will achieve anything this season with this team? In my opinion the rebuild will commence in April

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I don't expect. a. new manager to get us up this season but i'd rather he had 3 month t play with than the last few games that way he should know wots needed.

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If we are to change the manager now it must be someone that is here for the future it must be someone who has the ability to work on a large budget (if we get the backing needed) or to continue working on a shoe string as things are now, there is no point in getting someone in as a stop gap. For me Atkins is not the man it should be Poyet.

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Original poster here, I think no matter what GFH need to release a statement, they canceled that forum ( okay haigh had reasons, but the other 2?) we need to know if we are stuck with warnock till the end of the season! I really hope not he has become negative, yesterdays response to me seemed too engative like someone who doesn't care for the club which I don't think he does, what is the point having a manager who doesn't have long term plans for us, for me its a no brainer really!

bye bye warnock thanks for the year but enjoy retirement!

Leeds4life

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Really hate fans who say warnock destroyed our season, grow up

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17 Feb 2013 18:15:22
have supported leeds for 40 years, I have never seen a performance so devoid of passion, skill, endeavour, pace, effort, intelligence, hope, class, and leadership,
there was a total lack of respect for the 6000 fans who turned up from the players the manager, GFH Capital and Mr Bates, they should all hang there heads in shame. for the 6000 showed that the only thing this club has left that is worth anything is there un waving
support and belief that once the current owners and Mr Bates have gone that we ail rise again and we will have a team fit to wear the white shirt of leeds united

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Need a new manager and a new team

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We must be the only club IN THE WORLD with skint Arabs. We needs
Gfh, Bates and Shaun Harvey out of our club and take Warnock and all his old school coaches out of our E. R

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Get a grip we loose to the 2nd best team in the country and you have the cheek to have a go at the players and manager you may have been a Leeds fan for 40 years but come on be realistic man did you really think we would win them at there place?

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Should of been at Barnsley & Hull.

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Obviously didn't go to Hull or Barnsley

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Biggest tradgedy, is the loyal and long suffering fans, they have been let down time after time, they deserve a team in the top flight that they can be proud of, warnock gets paid plenty, has not worked, I was at man city, its not the players fault 70 percent of them are not good enough, i'm very upset I watched leeds home and away for 42 years, I feel for the fans

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How do you know we have "skint Arabs"? GFH have hardly had any time to do anything! Do you expect a Tony Fernandes plan? Because that definitely doesn't work.

You need to use a degree of rationality and sensible thought. We know nothing about GFH. What have they told us about their finances? Nothing. You can speculate and guess all you want, but you can't start spouting it like it's a fact because none of us know anything.

You want them to get us up, give them the summer at least. But you don't. Instead, you expect an awful team to turn into a good team over the course of two months mid-season! Give GFH time. Why is there an expectancy of success immediately? Any good thing takes time to work.

If it was your money, and you were in GFH's situation, would you put loads of money in in January? When we're in a position where promotion is unlikely, buying loads of players in a short space of time disrupts what little team chemistry we do have, chances are we'll have a new manager next season, who'll want a load of new players, which would make the January buys pointless.

In that situation, the most foolish thing you could do is spend loads of money in January. That is pissing the cash away, and in a time of global recession, I should like to think that all of us should have our heads screwed on right about that, especially when you bear in mind what that's done for us in the past.

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Some fans are never happy I dunno if u realised they are like 2nd in the leage and current defending champions lol

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Yes the fans were quality, but you can't fault the players and manager for this game. Leeds team was worth just over 1 million. Citys over 200 million. Just be grateful we beat tottenham, everton and southampton this season. 40 years a fan and can't recognise this. :/

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17 Feb 2013 17:06:56
Why the hell did he take mccormack off for a donkey like morison, the man's an person, and I can't believe we spent 2m on morison, I'm worried we haven't replaced becchios goals and will finish closer to the bottom 3 than top 6, get Adkins in now see if he gets that honeymoon period and 5 or 6 results in a row then there's a chance, remember dowie at crystal palace rock bottom when he took over then promotion, we need to freshen things up now because its gone stale under warnock, get adkins in now what harm can it do.

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17 Feb 2013 17:46:01
Crap old men need young blood

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We are to slow up front

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17 Feb 2013 18:06:14
Nothing wrong with morison . Get the ball in box he will score. McCormack was probably brought off to save him for league game. Warnock will still feel there's a small chance no matter what he says

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Ok, I have supported warnock, and have followed him for a while, the wife been a palace fan. It's time to move, what happened in the background has not helped.

I think the Gfh thing is being used to sell club as nobody would deal with bates. Yes he is a good business man though his ruthless business nature stops him dealing with prospective investors. Gfh is his way of keeping an interest at long arm, mr president to be.

Going forward let's get the right investors in, mr Pearson, mr Parkin and mr Saudi, take the club forward, by giving Adkins a chance. With right investment and Adkins on a long long term deal we have s chance. Gone are the days of man city and chealski investment.

We have a hood academy and team in situ, giving a long term deal, with the investment guys above will give the club a solid future. I know we all disliked the gum chewing sur Alec ferguson, but he has been in at scum, long bough to build a legacy. Moyes has been at Everton a long time, let's give Adkins a chance, young and a great talent, that Southampton, have lost out on.

If you don't like so what we all have an opinion. let's move and start talking about the future. Promotion 2014

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I couldn't understand why he took Brown off as he was the only one putting tackles in and left the useless White on.

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Donkey no 2mill we got him as part of a deal we got money and him and get real we went out to a good side 2nd best in country at the moment so wind you neck in and get behind the team we not prem class yet my son

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Diouf is the donkey. What exactly does that guy offer?

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Diouf is the donkey? no not really he's been one of our best players this season! clearly you don't go to any games!

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We didn't spend 2 million on Morison. We got him and 200k for Becchio.

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DIOUF IS A DONKEY. Been our most technically adept player this season. get to games kid.

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I'm a season ticket holder lad and go to the away games. Diouf is 5 years past his sell by date. He lacks pace, his first touch is that bad that his second touch is a tackle and he slows the game down to a standstill. Next you'll be saying White is the new Messi. Like I said before, what does he offer?

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17 Feb 2013 12:06:01
According to nnow leeds looking to bring in Adkins.
At least GFH got their ear to the ground on this one!
White teeth

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Need warnock out, looks like playoffs are out of reach and look to be out of the cup. Hate to say it again but we need to build for next season and that is for sure without warnock. Bye bye Neil would love to say sad to see you go but to be honest can't wait to see back of you! Sussex white! Mot!

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Doesn't matter who you have in there without the financial support of the board there's no chance of the club succeeding. The majority of the players are mediocre at best. You could have mourinho in there and he wouldn't do a better job than Warnock. Cause the team is rubbish. The man got 7 teams promoted how can you write him off and say he is rubbish

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According to Sunday Express also. adkins lined up. JD

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To the second poster

You say the team is rubbish, well there is only one man to blame and that's the man who asked the club to buy them

Colin that's who

Mourinho would probably have bought slightly better players for his buck.

And he would definitely have them playing a more modern style of football

MOT
ExCroggywhite

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I actually think we have some decent players but yes could do with a couple of quality signings ( esp a winger ). Even with the current team we should be performing better in the league as we have shown to be half decent in the cup matches, so that said you look at why and unfortunately the buck stops at the manager. Think Adkins could do better even with this team!

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Anyone that say warnock has done his best with little money is full of sh~t! Grayson had less money and did/done better at leeds, I also don't think snodgrass or becchio would have gone. becchio was pushed out the door and warnock talked to snodgrass once about staying at leeds, them goes on about missing him? he get white to sign a new deal and never plays him.
Mourinho has win cups with little money too at porto!

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