Leeds Rumours Archive July 25 2011

25 Jul 2011 21:16:11
ed, do happen to know what happened with the elliot kebbie deal because im very interested to find out what the compenation is likely to be {Ed045's Note - I would suggest it was a undisclosed compensation packet, probably resulting into sell on percentages, 2nd team loanees or what not, it will be a decent sum for a young promising lad.

Well when man u tried to get him other yeah they Offerd £1million compo. So hope barca pay more.

25 Jul 2011 20:38:01
Whose modelling Leeds unite away kit

Paddy kisnorbo and Michael brown.

You follow Leeds much? Haha

25 Jul 2011 19:49:44
People are raving about Lonergan being a top keeper.
Maybe so, but
he conceded 9 more goals than Kasper did
Its all down to the defenders infront of him, Grayson has not addressed our poor defenders
Yes we have Paddy back, but is he going to be injury free all season ?, i hope so, because Grayson must think we have a good defence or he would have bought more defenders in

You have to appreciate that defending helps with communication from the keeper too...

I am glad we got Lonergan..

Blah blah blah.... Give your head a shake will you... 'He conceded more goals' SO WHAT ..... We need a LB that is all... You have to appreciate that we are playing different defenders in pre season and I reckon Obrien and Paddy will be solid.. Personally I would give Aidy a go... Failing that Dickinson from Stoke for LB

No fella, it is also about communication and understanding between keeper and back 4 and especially centre backs - this was his and our big weak point - and caused a lot of errors and jittery defending from bruce - kasper was vocal but not in control - with the shouts sign of inexperience i guess and will improve - good luck to Kasper and welcome a more mature and calm keeper Lonners - Bruce will be relieved

am i right or wrong ?

Yeah so he conceded 9 more but look at the league positions Relegated and 7th and ask the same thing 9 more than 7th that's pretty good going in my eyes

We Concederd all the goals as the defence was poor but also kasper was too big headerd the team would not comunicate with him.

Personally i think aidy would be to attacking for LB as we seen with mcartney didn't work with all out attacking minded players upto promising winger though LUFC

25 Jul 2011 19:39:09
a standard league one keeper? great....relegation here we come

He's been in the championship most of his career and the last few seasons. he got player of the year at pne in 08/09 and 09/10, look into stuff before you say anything.

Be quiet you person He's not a standard league 1 keeper at all As for relagation call yourself a fan? We don't need "fans" like you at our club. If we signed messi you would still find a reason to complain.

Shut up you p***k, we have let kasper go and he conceded 9 goals less than Andy. We finished 7th and they were relegated. Are on something mate the year before he was there player of the season and they got to semi finals in the playoffs. West Brom, Everton were in for him behave kasper was where again oh that's right Notts Co.

We've signed two division 3 keepers not one. team is worse than last year. well be bottom 6. home and away through thick and thin. ill match my record against yours son

Idiot.... Go post on Man Utd board if you have finished your homework..

Homework? I manage more staff than grayson and am more successful. No Leeds fan calls that team that-they are simply Scum. now run along before the bad man loses his temper

Give him (and Rachubka) a chance for gods sake

Were all Leeds arn't we?

25 Jul 2011 18:49:57
After signing Lonergan today on a 3-year contract, Grayson hopes that he can finalise 2 more signings by the end of the week.

25 Jul 2011 17:50:56
LEEDS HAVE SIGNED ANDY LONERGAN (3 YEAR DEAL, UNDISCLOSED FEE)

25 Jul 2011 17:49:33
leeds sign lonergan

25 Jul 2011 17:45:18
Lonergan has just signed.

Official text

SideB4Self

25 Jul 2011 18:05:59
lonergan is a done deal good signing and will prove a lot of doudters wrong.

However one signing isn't enough we need a least 3 more. one in each area defence, midfield and attack. MOT

25 Jul 2011 18:02:05
Bit strange but just read on lufc ipad app that lonergan has signed 3 year deal, sg is delighted to get his number 1 gk target, then when i refreshed, its not on there any more.

25 Jul 2011 17:56:26
lonergan signs, leeds official website

25 Jul 2011 17:55:00
Andy Lonergan signed for Leeds on a 3 year contract on Undisclosed fee

Source official site

25 Jul 2011 16:34:35
Ipswich to sign Jay Emmanuel Thomas permanently - and to get Stockdale

news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/14275393.stm

Have you lost your way from the Ipswich board?

25 Jul 2011 15:50:12
Every 1 has no trust in the team saying we need new players all the time few tweeks i think we have a good team as we are start making ur statements at the end of the season grayson gets his chemistry right i can see us making the play offs we fizzled out 2nd half of the season last year alot of draws that should of been wins. Any news on the player that where 95% of signing should be 2day? Who is it? {Ed045's Note - Lonergan seems most likely.

Lots of water to go under lots of bridges before season kicks off. Expect lots of loan dealings right up to last minute when Premiership clubs decide who is surplus to requirements for the time being

25 Jul 2011 13:59:00
- villa agree fee for nzogbia- expect some interest form wigan but he wont leave unless both he and leeds r offered big money. Wigan r not that big a club anyway have respect for martinez but every season look like club who could get relegated so snooddy could end in CH even if he did leave

25 Jul 2011 12:07:12
LONERGAN: Sky News reports that the deal is almost done and that potentially news could be released later today.

SMITH: Stated that he is going to sit out his last year at Newcastle. Orlando in the US league have spoken to him about a move but he reiterated that this year he will remain at Newcastle before contemplating move abroad next year. 'So much for all the inside best mates and he's coming rumours' Money talks and we aint got it. Leeds are becoming a joke in the transfer world.

What a load of rubbish about leeds becoming a joke - what because were not prepared to pay £25k a week, plus newcastle pay some of his wages to somebody who's had 2 awful seasons at Newcastle. fair enough i would of liked smith back but if he's to driven by money i'm for one glad that were not giving in to his demands. the guy has done nothing now for 2/3 years and he wants double our best earners Howson, Gradel, Snoddy, Becchio are worth just as much in wages as Smith mate and they dont dmeands x amount of pounds

Alan Smith's career is drawing to a close, he is not of an ability that Leeds United would look for and I would suggest he is aware of that.

Why? Because we didnt bring in an overpaid injury prone failure of a midfielder.

I disagree that we are becoming a joke. Yes we probably offer low wages but I believe the difference between our highest wage and Smith's wage will be massive, hence why he's staying. He'd be mental to take such a drastic cut

Becoming a joke- This must be from someone who supports Leeds from the comfort of their armchair. Anyone who follows Leeds would not want to return to the days of paying top dollar for mediocraty which is what signing Smith would be. Wake up and come back to earth, whoever you are

People who expect us to spend big are idiots Yes we cant spend a lot of money like you morons want and I'm more than happy that we dont. If it means we are financially secure then good. All you lot that want 'Ken to put his hand in his pocket' or want him to spend loads this will put us in debt AGAIN and I dont want that. Im happy with how things are run and we are debt free. If you want it to be a Ridsdale era again then you have your priorities wrong God help us if any of you clowns wanted to spend money we dont have, we would definately fold as a club Rant over {Ed045's Note - Agreed!

Yes we are a joke but so is Smith. He is past his best and it is debatable whether he could add anything.

It looks like you have another decent keeper. I m PNE fan and i would like to wish Andy all the best. All i m saying to you leeds fans is look after him he s a decent guy.

With the money Smith is commanding to return he hasnt got a fookin clue about our financial situation, you claim he loves leeds and is a fan, he hasnt got a clue

Good let him go to the states, he's showing his true colours now. What will his supporters blame this time....Bates being tight haha
We cant afford to have such an over paid injury prone lame midfielder on our books, on this one case I back Bates

Because we arent getting Smith we're a joke? If anything this shows the clubs Isn't being run by morons desperate to relive the 'Glory days' with O'learys babies. Thank f*** We need Youth not Crocks

He'd be mental to take such a drastic cut..........
I thought he loved playing football and loved his hometown club?
His fangirls are forgetting that Nufc are making up the rest of his wages that we cant meet, so technically he'd be dropping what 5k a week. Thats not exactly devestating when hes on 60k. He was on 45k in his prime at Leeds. Hes gotten greedy, theres no other excuses needed.

Orlando City wouldnt be able to afford 3k a week, if he'd consider that over a return to ER then he simply is excepting hes ready for the scrap heap and he doesnt care about making amends with the fans. He'll be happy sunning himself.

I do question whether some on here are Smith fans over Leeds fans

Im glad, alan smith is a joke. in it for the money and never for the club.SCUM.

25 Jul 2011 11:54:48
To all those doubters about Longergan, he was being chased by Prem Clubs, that says something about the quality of player he is. Kasper chased by the "Mighty" Leicester cos there a massive club NOT Good signing
MOT

Looks like Lonergan will be our new no1 keeper
Egg on ya face Simon, let in more goals than Kasper
And you mentioned in the press, you wanted to get in a better keeper than Kasper
Really ?
A keeper is only as good as his defenders, and you still havent bought in any new faces.
Mid table at best for Leeds {Ed045's Note - Once again pessimistic attitude, Lonergan is a really strong keeper, he wasn't at fault for any goals/hardly any last season, Preston as a team just crumbled, Kasper was a miserable get that played for himself.

Actually Lonergan hasn't let in ANY goals for Leeds yet so get your facts right. Lets play like for like shall we?

Hardly surprising nobody wants to sign for us with idiots like you writing them off before they've even agreed to join the club.....

Just an opinion but as good as kasper close range stops and distribution was I felt we conceded to many goals from distance last year, thought kasper was bit small and carrying bit of extra timber. He wasn't signing a new contract and would of left for free at end of next season like he did at man city and mitts county. Looks like we got to good championship keepers to fight for number 1 jersey

I agree with the Ed. As the OP said himself, a keeper is only as good as his defence, and Preston were beyond shocking last season. Lonergan will be a good fit, Kizzie is a rock, and I'm hopefully that the likes of Parker can repay the faith shown to him throughout his injury rocked career. MOT The Might Whites Forever.

Ed's spot on It seems sadly that many Leeds fans won't be happy until we've signed Petr Cech

Conceded more goals than Kasper did last season

What do you base your "lonergan not at fault for any goals conceded last season" analysis on. Fair enough to remind us all to give the guy a chance but the sweeping generalisation you have resorted to really doesnt make a case for this being a good signing. The harsh reality is unless Leeds also bring in quality players (LB, RB, CM and another CB) it wont make a great deal of difference how good lonergan is.

I can accept being told to stop moaning and be positive (I am not positive about this season though, actually really worried) I cant accept it when its backed up by resorting to made up facts to suit your own argument.

Kick off in 12 days and our defence has not been improved at all and we are stiil light in central midfield (howson, clayton and nunez all very similar players). Was at the game on Sunday and none of the trialists are anywhere near good enough. The hungarian left back made Bessone look like ashley cole.

You carry on applying your "rose tinted" view to events at ER, i'll carry on commenting on what i see (good bad or indifferent) and all i have seen coming out of Graysons gob all summer is platitudes and cliches and as a club all Leeds have managed to do to "improve the squad" is recruit a couple of 30+ journeymen. Its been a long time since i have felt a Leeds pre season promise so much (4 quality additions) and deliver so little.

We all want the same as Leeds supporters, I guess we will just have to disagree on whether (on the basis of Leeds transfer policy so far) we are likely to progress towards that goal this season.

Agree SG has messed up.
Ed - Lonergan is NOT a very good keeper. He is just as big a liability as Kasper could be on occasion. SG has NOT improved our back line. It is no better than last season, and the only beneficiary is Bates, again. {Ed045's Note - Ok, he is not a good keeper, he was wanted by 3 PL clubs and one had 2 bids turned down because the amount wasn't benificiary for Preston at that moment in time, we might not have PAID to improve the back four, but we have brought through players that will improve us, Paddy Kisnorbo, Aidy White, Tom Lees etc. If you are a Leeds fan you will realise that paying un-necessary amounts of money to get a player that is good enough for just the championship is pointless when there are countless frees and loans out there that can do just as good a job.

Yes defence was not great last season even though we had injuries to kiss, nails, Parker people forget our main problem was zero support from midfield. Our most defensive minded midfielder also had one of the most shots at goal (usually off target)in th league- that just shows you where he was on the park {Ed045's Note - Exactly..

Were better when Parkers injured, hell get skinned week in week out, surely a good defender needs pace and the ability to tackle, he has neither, cmon Simon, lets have a quality replacement.

Not saying Lonergan isnt a good player or wont do a good job, IMO his signing does not improve our defence from last season for that we need a LB, RB and another defensive midfielder in addition to brown. I would also like to see another CB come in to give Obrien and Kisnorbo some competition and cover (Lees may be up to the job however that is a lot of pressure to put on a young player who hasnt performed at this level before).

I am a Leeds fan through and through, it really annoys me to hear that i cant really be one if i'm not eulogising every move the club makes. I agree there are countless frees and loans available however that doesnt mean they are the right players for Leeds. All we are doing is limiting ourselves to a very specific pool of players rather than looking at the players that might actually make a difference. You seem to suggest that there are only two player aquisition strategies available, the bargain basement where Leeds currently chhose to shop or the ridiculous excess of the Ridsdale era. I am not asking for Leeds to spend money on players they dont have to spend, I would like to see Leeds invest some of the money they clearly do have on quality additions that will go straight into the first 11 and make Leeds a better team in the process. If your telling me Leeds dont have £1m to spend on a couple of players I simply dont believe you, unfortunately Leeds have chosen to spend their money on other things (a giant lego set for the east stand).

Injuries to Naylor and parker didnt contribute to Leeds poor defensive record, they are no better than the players that did play.

Lets see where we are in a few months time, I will be interested in your take on proceedings if it turns out the needed more than tweaking.

I will tell you this Lonners is the best stopper & one to one in the championship, give the lad a chance.

Chatting to a mate at work today who has a season ticket at CCFC, attend every game (poor sole) and he said
Lonergan was the best keeper he saw last season

25 Jul 2011 10:13:55
What a load of rubbish We sell Kasper for Lonergan? Was Rachubka bought to be number 1? Well done Leeds, build us all up for this signing and then let us down by signing a crappy league 1 goalie. Give Grayson some money Bates so we can actually buy some DECENT players {Ed045's Note - Lonergan is a really good championship keeper.

We have to look on the positives, Everton where after him so he must be a decent keeper, and he is not a loan signing.

I agree with ed. Lonergan will be a good keeper for us. I will be happy with this signing if it come off...and Bates has had to pay for him so people can stop moaning now

You're a retard. what basis do you have to say Lonergan is "a crappy league 1 keeper"? he will be better and more consistent than Kasper, and will command his box more. I bet you have never seen him play. Give him a chance before you spout rubbish

We sell kasper for lonegan to me this is good business MOT p.s to the poster get a grip and support your granny and not leeds

There's so much wrong with this it's hard to know what to say.

Rachubka wasn't signed to be No1, or he'd have the No1 shirt, which he doesn't. You have no idea what went on with Kasper, I was gutted at first, but given what I've read / heard since, it seems like a good move.

Lonergan is a "crappy league 1 keeper" ? Well he won Prestons player of the year twice in the Championship, and has been linked with Everton, Villa & Wigan (all premier league clubs) and West Brom tried to sign him 3 times with good size bids, this would suggest you don't know what you're talking about...

He ent that bad, but i see what your saying give simon grayson some cash and get alan smith back

If we get lonergan we will have paid at least 100k for him. He's a good keeper, I'm sure he was in goal when we played them in the championship play off semis and he looked solid (can you confirm this ed?). If he signs I'm pleased we've got him. Maybe Stockdale is slightly better but we can't agree to a 24 hour recall clause.

I think lonergan will be a good choice to replace kasper he is a good keeper

It is a good deal we get about £800k profit from Kasper deal to spend on others I doubt it but its still there {Ed045's Note - Yes the price is rumoured to be 100-150k, perhaps add ons (sell ons etc.)

Kasper was a prima donna and lives of his father's reputation. He certainly aint the finished article yet and if any player is as disruptive to team morale as this egotistical brat is alleged to be, then he should be shown the door whoever he... or his father might be

If Kasper was disrupting the dressing room and he actually conceded a huge amount of goals last season....we can't do much worse. Bit of an arrogant git according to sources...
Lonergan is a good buy, he was excellent for Preston prior to the form dip last season.

Well OP there you are - nobody agrees with you so you and the other Bates haters (who completely embarassed Leeds at Hillsborough with their repetitive moronic chants on Saturday) go away and stop trying to destroy our club

Lonergan is not good enough to be our #1 keeper.
The derision from fans comments when Lonergan was mooted as a replacement a month ago has now ebbed away. Remember, we all thought he wasn't as good as Westwood, Smithies, Given et al who were touted at the time.
Now those dreams are a busted flush, you are all supportive of the Lonergan bid.

Barrel scrapers

Go away and support Plymouth you Bates hating idiots. Bates has been great for our club - you have been anything but

25 Jul 2011 10:10:54
Lonergan set to be named new No 1.. Should be named sometime today.

25 Jul 2011 10:00:33
SSN : Leeds are closing in on the signing of Preston goalkeeper Andy Lonergan.

Leeds have been chasing the 27-year-old all summer as they look for a replacement for Kasper Schmeichel at Elland Road.

Everton have also expressed an interest in Lonergan, but the Toffees have been unable to agree a deal with Preston.

Preston are willing to sell Lonergan following their relegation to League One and Leeds are now in pole position to land the keeper.

Talks are thought to be at an advanced stage between both clubs, with Leeds hoping to tie up a deal in the next 24 hours as they look to make Lonergan their new No.1.

25 Jul 2011 09:29:26
Stockdale was at a family party in Pudsey, Leeds yesterday. He was told us that he wasnt signing for Leeds but was signing for Ipswich, but he has been known to be a wind up merchant MOT

25 Jul 2011 09:08:28
we should sell snoddy for 8million , on twitter duncan castle said that when wigan sell nzogbia they will meet the 8 million asking price for him.
with the money we should get nicky maynard . bristol will accept 5 and we would still have 3 which is good to get his other targets . i know snoddy is a good player but we have nunez . lloyld sam who can step in and with maynard instead of paynter your easilly gonna get over 1 goal . sometimes you have to think for the squad to improve then keep a player who could sell and we could sign better players then release the rubbish ones like bessone, paynter,

Whatever leeds get bates will keep and larry will get sod all

Not even £2m of it would get spent on the team, so whats the point?

You must be master bates himself. The squad woul see very little of any cash brought in from selling him. Since when has selling your best players and replacing them with crocks that are half as good been the way forward. Plus, Maynard is a completely different player. We need snoddy, I honestly don't think there is a more skillfull player in the championship. {Ed045's Note - I don't think skillful is the right word, but maybe the most clever in posession, he's not the fastest, but seems to beat people left right and centre!

Dont be so stupid, 5mil for maynard after being out for so long ?

Snodgrass is one of the best wingers in the league and scored plenty last season. Why would we sell him and buy another striker who will probly score less. And anyway if we did get 8mil it would go into bates back pocket so dont expect to see any if it.

If Bates hadnt spent £7 million on the east stand there wouldnt be talk of selling there best players to give SG cash to spend, its players like snoddy that bring the good players to the club.

Although snograss is skilful he certainly isnt one of the best wingers in the division. i would even say he isn't the best winger at leeds. if it were true that someone is going to bid big money for him then why not let him go to strengthen the team

If we got 8 million Bates would give Simon 2 million maximum.

Duncan Castle has tweeted no such thing. Another person making stuff up - doubt you are a Leeds fan

He did tweet that I wrote it in response to another post and the op here went and checked and saw it too. Just because you have not got a clue how to use twitter you clown dont be saying were not leeds supporters you fool

There not gna bid tht much. the reason he put the asking price up was so clubs wouldnt offer for him and i would rather keep snodgrass

Snodgrass is the best player we have, at the moment he is a priceless part of our squad We need players that actually want to play for Leeds, players who love the club stayed because they wanted to, Snoddy being one of them. At his standard he'll be amongst the great names one day, guaranteed. Lets not make another Cantona out of him

25 Jul 2011 08:53:29
Okay so it's Monday, let's see who this signing is. Or is it more smoke and mirrors?

25 Jul 2011 07:55:40
Gradel's on his way then. {Ed045's Note - On his way where? he has stated that he 'wants to stay with Leeds for a long time to come'

As previously stated Max Gradel is a Leeds United player and unless a club offers a payment for his services, which is equal to the the fee Leeds United would look for, he will be a Leeds United player for season 2011/2012

25 Jul 2011 02:31:11
I have been reading quotes on the Internet that werent there yesterday from Max Gradel saying how he loves Leeds and want to stay.

This has definitely made me happier about this season once we get a new keeper, left back/right back, centre back and a centre midfielder and I'm seriously hoping for new striker.

25 Jul 2011 00:47:15
smith deal seems to be 100% dead, shame i was hoping he would come back.
guess he really does care about money. :/ MOT

You only just realised he only cares about money? If he loved this club as much as most of the supporters do he'd have crawled back on his hands and knees and accepted whatever pay was offered. It's not like he's not made enough of it throughout his career

ALAN SMITH DOESNT PLAY FOR MONEY when leeds sold him, he got a payout of something like 1.2 mil from manchester united, and do you no what he did with it? gave it straight to leeds, that is a player who would come back, so that makes me wonder if there ever was a proper inquiery into signing alan smith, ken bates is a p***k

Prove he gave it back to Leeds...

and it would have been a loyalty bonus, somethign Smith shouldnt have received when he claimed he wanted to go to Man U and only Man U