Leeds Rumours Archive July 31 2012

31 Jul 2012 15:42:36
Santa Cruz turns down Boro loan move to stay closer to North West -

Picture him in a Leeds Shirt anyone..!

Woody LUFC

No thanks, need someone with pace.

Yh mate would be excellent in championship. Last season it was on sky sports that he would drop down a division for a team with big fans and stadiums like Leeds so think he would join. This was his dad I think though but him and McCormack would rape the championship!

Why not?

Hopefully we will soon be rid of Santa Claus Bates so replace him with Santa Cruz!!

KTJ - Abu Dhabi!

I would have thought he would go to QPR to be back with Mark Hughes

I'm sure when the story broke last year (as per previous poster), it was said that his father, who also acts as his agent, is a Leeds fan...Anyone remember that? Be a great signing in this league, but will he fit in with what we have?

Jody

Would give him a go deffinately

Would love it if he came to us

Picture him on the physios table more like, more injury prone than eddy the eagle! would be great if it worked though, massive wages surely? slc {Ed003's Note - Even if it was true,he has problems with his back}

Here is another perspective on the takeover. When buying a company you need to value the asset base and then one option is to negotiate a multiplier on that value to get to a final sale price. There will be lots of issues and many elements held over with valuations being held in 'escrow' ( which means if Mr Pastry has been lying those doing the buying can claim back parts of what has been negotiated).

Anyway. If you've been following all of the news and not just the sporting bit Mr P has been cashing in on all the assets. £2m of wedge up front from the catering rights, £.5m for the official hotel endorsement, south stand sponsorship and so on. The LUFC accounts have accruals relating to the costs for the police court case. Case won (this time) so more dosh released to the balance sheet and a bigger number for the multiplier to turn into Mr P's retirement fund.

The playing staff with little or no contract length have been turned in to cash and those bought, surprise surprise, taken on longer contracts than normal. Why? Because it values the balance sheet higher. Sign a player like Ashdown for nought but give him a 2+1 contract and bingo he has a value and back comes the multiplier bonus again.

It is all standard stuff and why I believe it will be the end of the transfer window or once all current low assets have either been increased (White) or cashed in (Snodgrass) before we will be rid of the Monaco manipulator.

The new investors are not in any mad rush and NW has assembled a good crew so far so nothing to be worried about.

Just returning from a month away and been highly entertained by the site. Well done everyone. By the way I did hear before going away that the UK party helping our Arabian friends was none other than Frank Gray. Nice to see his lady the club then!

Yorkshire Evening Post are reporting that he is on 90,000 a week?! (Ed is this true?) surely we cant offer him anything remotely in the region of that. I doubt he will make the switch, although weirder things have happened!

The D man {Ed013's Note - I can't see it myself (coming to Leeds) however is wage is too high for any Championship club with the wage cap. If he has turned down Boro to be near the North West then why come to Leeds which is in the East? If it is true and he cant get a club like Wigan,then Bolton/Blackburn would be on his radar I imagine}

Seem to remember us being linked with him in the past -and nothing came of it. I wouldn't bother personally -don't think we'd get our money's worth, for the ridiculous amount it would cost. Has barely kicked a ball in anger for 2/3 years. We need to look beyond 'names' -it's the Michael Owen syndrome again... Chapel A

31 Jul 2012 14:47:31
not a good move by LUST criticising the potential new owners, this is why nobody ever wants to buy us, i wish theyd shut up for once criticising everything or theyre gonna knack this up for us

Go on explain how asking for some info from a supporters trust is gonna knack up a multi million pound deal. Get real.

Be quiet bates

If it wasn't for Lust we would not be in takeover talks so stop talking b*******.Trevo

Well because any potential new investors or owners will want to come into a club with their own ideas of how to run things, they certainly won't want a group of persons telling them how to run their business. It's off putting to say the least when buying a business. Totally agree with the original poster. I think the supporters trust is a great idea if it were run properly, at the minute they are just annoying, they know as much as us and they trying to make out they will get information before us. Not try. Just be patient and shut up

If it wasnt for lust there would be know takeover happening one day you will thank them

Lust have nothing to do with takeover,then they would`nt be so desperat for news.......

Lust should indeed stay quiet. The business dealings are really none of their business and we will all find out in due course once that business has been conducted correctly and ethically. Fingers Crossed

Get Real. Deal or no deal LUST is just a group of morons, IMO. No, I'm not Bates just a long standing season ticket holder who who is tired of hearing this bunch mouthing off- they dont own anything to do with the club and at best are just supporters with a bad attitude. They do nothing good for the clubs reptutation or positive future prospects.

LUST. lust for self importance. Bates has done more for Leeds than LUST ever will. They do no represent the majority of Leeds supporters. They dont even represent half the crowd at a wet Tuesday night in the League Cup.

Hats of to lust i say for reminding the bates lovers out there how much of a crook bates really is if it wasnt for them pointing out a few facts where would we be now they are leeds fans just like us all of us and want the best for the club Dale mot?

Lust could ruin this as in their angry child like email they critised the new owners for not being honest and open with the fans from the start. they are trying to get themselves on the board. how many other businesses have customers on the board-none. trading standards should look at lust - board banned from buying tickets so by definition are armchair fans and not supporters

Lust are a bunch of self appointed spokesmen for the Supporters , well they certainly dont speak for me and the vast majority of decent Leeds supporters that I talk to , in fact Ive never met one that will admit to being one yet.
Most of their so called members just jumped on the bandwaggon when things were not going right for us on the field.
I dont like the majority of Bates policies either,but telling people not to go to matches to hit him in the pocket, then moan coz he won't spend money is never going to help us achieve our ambitions.
Lust also have had no bearing on the Take over one way or the other, they are a non entity .
If the team perform on the pitch they will be long forgotton .
So get behind Neil and the team and forget slagging Bates and the new owners .
This new team deserve to have our full backing and support to help them .

ARE YOU LIVING IN THE REAL WORLD ...

Whoever posted ...." If it wasnt for lust there would be know takeover happening one day you will thank them."

Get Real, this T/O has nothing whatever to do with lust. A group of attention seeking non entities who's time is over. bye bye.

OP here, IMO LUST just like to say a couple of things every odd occasion just to let people know theyre still around, thats it

It's really refreshing to hear everybody's true opinions about LUST. I was beginning to think I was the only one who didn't like their interfering "on my behalf". They do not stand for my views as a supporter, and don't seem to do anything other than moan when things aren't going the way they want them to.

They want money invested in the team - they stop going to games; They want a new owner - they criticise them at the first opportunity (before we even know who they are)

The attitude doesn't help at all.

LUST do not represent my views or opinions in any way at all.

Wot are lust going to do when we do get taken over all ther do is create another problem tere is no need for them all there are are self electied and self promoting bunch of cranks [kez1919]

31 Jul 2012 13:52:00
Paynter on a weeks trail at Blackpool

I also saw that PNE had made two offers for him

Another donkey in town then

I am sure that Billy will do well on the beach this summer. Stiff competition for all the other donkeys......

On a trail. bet you any money its a donkey trail !

31 Jul 2012 12:49:08
I have just about had enuff now with this take over and the players we have got at this stage of pre season he says we need 2 more and that's it I don't understand how he thinks this team will go up worrying times Richie 1979

NW has said 4 more..

I'd have been more worried if we still had the old team together.....

Good to see the negativity still evident amongst us Leeds fans, I for one am a lot more optimistic about our chances than I was last season. We have 2 goalies better than our first choice last season, finally what looks like a decent left back, a cracking young centre half and potentially goals from our midfield. Once Colin adds a decent forward and maybe one creative player i'm sure we'll be fine. MOT

When has he said this team will go up? He said he is building a squad capable of challenging for promotion. Support the manager and players he has brought in if your'e a true supporter.

You don't have to have blind faith if you are a supporter. Do you really think all these free transfers are going to get us promotion. The money from Snodgrass is not being invested in the squad and McCormack could be leaving next. I understand the posters worries. Five of the players we have signed got relegated out of the Championship last year. If any other team had signed these players you would be laughing at them

Charlton and Bristol City offering for £1.5m for a player, we are just not in that league. I am worried too.

One thing p*****s me off more than norwich and thats these so called fans always moaning and crying about what other teams are spending, who gives a f*** what they spend ,get behind your manager and club and stop whinging

That was gray who quite often talks carp on in his yep column. NW says 3/4 quality signings to come . slc

Portsmouth only got relegated because of the points deduction, so they would have stayed up. Besides, how can you use that as a basis for whether they're good enough or not? It's about the quality of the said player and how it fits into our team, not how it didn't fit into another team.

To the 5th response:

We've paid for most of our transfers. What do you mean free?!

We've spent £1.5 million, what do you mean the squad isn't being invested in?

If McCormack wants to go, let him go. We'll get a different striker in to do a job.

The Pompey players in our squad would have finished only a few points behind us last season and with a better goal difference if they hadn't had points deducted.

I'd call it pretty good business to take a load of quality players, who are used to playing together, at knock down prices to replace the questionable players we had in the squad last season.

You asked what the poster meant by free. I think they mean
Gray
Crainey
Varney
Green
Norris
Drury
Ashdown

I don't have a problem with free transfers, why do people think that free players are S***. I bet the same ppl would happily spend 2M on Beckford having let him go for free! I pretty sure all the free signings we had made had turn down contracts from their clubs, unless they couldnt afford them anymore (pompy) They aren't rejects, they are players who are at a better standard or want another challenge. Give the new payers a chance and I bet once the season has kicked off it will be much more enjoyable to be a Leeds fan than in the previous few seasons.
Karl

31 Jul 2012 10:56:22
billy barn door gone to blackpool he end up top scorer this season they it hapens like that source yorkshire evening post yep

31 Jul 2012 09:43:44
Just a heads up guys that We've made 2 official bids for players this morning. Hopefully the deals will be accepted and concluded by the weekend.

'official bids'- aren't they all?

Are they Portsmouth players?

Any idea which players then? Chapel A

31 Jul 2012 06:12:25
West Spam have had a bid accepted to loan Andy Carroll for the season. They have a ridiculous amount of strikers now, Maynard isn't going to get a sniff in that company. Worth a cheeky bid? {Ed020's Note - if its not us, i can see him definitley dropping down to the championship level}

Yes they have got more strikers than Arthur Scargill! I like Sam Baldock at West Ham 5 goals in 6 starts lasts year. He would be great for us

30 Jul 2012 23:33:20
After reading a Brann/Leeds fan say how brilliant 'Rudy' Austin is surrrrely the song for him must be to the tune of 'Ruby' by the Kaiser Chiefs ??
Let me be the first to sing 'Ruby, Ruby,Ruby,Rubyyyy'
Yes still stoned...I live round the corner to the free state of Christiania in Copenhagen - google it :o) {Ed020's Note - jealous}

Think you meant to say Rudy, Rudy, Ruuudddyyy!.

You mean Rudy, Rudy, Rudy, is gonna, gonna get ya

Sorry bud that's been going since rumour of him started. slc