Leeds Rumours Archive February 04 2014

04 Feb 2014 23:36:47
The Mirror have publicly stated

"Leeds' would-be new owner Massimo Cellino paid the club’s £1million wage bill last week to save them from financial chaos."

I would love them or anyone else to provide proof of this considering the proven lies that have come out of this guys mouth already regarding the sacking of McDermott?

OP here. Forgot to add, I really can't believe Leeds wage bill is actually a million pounds a week as implied anyway, or perhaps that's just the Mirror not being literate enough to say they paid the last months wage bill in the last week?

I have done a little research, Ed does Mr Cellini have to get approval from FL before he can own the club, or is it after the purchase of the club that he needs FL approval .?

{Ed013's Note - He needs it to own the club mate}

05 Feb 2014 00:12:36
I once looked online about leeds rumours from the sun and 1 out of 300 rumours came true

Ok cheers for that, as was looking at the cases of Coventry City and Notts County and it appeared they got or were refused it after purchasing respective clubs.Must have mis interpreted it .Thanks

The Daily Mirror, says it all people, unbelievable.

I'm in favour of celino. He's already put his money where is mouth is. Celino is my man

Wouldnt be a fan of someone with a dodgie past such as Cellino but and its a BIG BUT I have NO faith in GFH. All they have done is promise money lies, we have the football club at heart lies and more lies continue from these UNTRUSTWORTHY people.

Can Cellino be any worse?

I too am slowly beginning to favour Cellino.

Don't think flowers trusts gfh either, probs why they have a winding up order on them.

We had bates thrust upon us and you say you don't want cellino, give it a rest!bates was 10 times worse than cellino, a truly horrible man.give cellino a chance.

05 Feb 2014 12:30:17
Cellino may well have lied (as reports suggest) over the BMD sacking but he soon back tracked and pledged his support for Brian after realising the passion of the fans reaction, this shows he listens something Bates never did nor Flowers going by the way he's acting. the bottom line is you have the money or you don't, one man who has great wealth or six/seven all chipping in a couple of quid here and there and what paid structure will this consortium want out of profits? one man answerable for actions or a group blaming each other as we are now.
Its the king of the Corn for me

Cellino with BMD would get thumbs up from me but does not seem to be a match made in heaven and surely BMD's position would soon become untenable?
Change of ownership to attract new investment desperately needed, change of Manager is last thing we want.

"We had bates thrust upon us and you say you don't want cellino, give it a rest!bates was 10 times worse than cellino, a truly horrible man.give cellino a chance"

I also am slowly coming round to the idea of Cellino but my main concern is that he keeps BMD as manager. Hopefully the italians money and BMD steady approach will see us headin the right direction. Have to say I am still not totally convinced but as others have said slowly coming round to the idea.
PeteMOT

To the 11th poster on this thread, Cellino has consistantly lied about the managerial postion re the sacking of Mcdermott. He also stated that he couldn't comment on Mcdermotts future with the club if he becomes owner. Mcdermott has been bought back by GFH to keep the fans on side. Cellino comes in, I'm sorry guys but Mcdermotts gone.

People who are pro cellino need to take a good long look at history with Cagliari before wishing him on us thinking it's going to be a quick fix back to the prem.

To the 15th Poster who Posted about the 11th Poster, I am a different Poster. I don't necessarily think that people are pro The King Of Corn, but simply that this guys wants to buy the club and has got a few quid.
Anything is better than what we have now, a banking group with no cash, who constantly promise and never deliver.
Cellino might be a bit of a crazy character, but I think that's what we need.
We have been fighting against having no money since Ridsdale the Bandit put us in the mire. Love or Hate Bates, he did save our club, but then failed to invest any further to get us back where we all want as it was simply a money making venture for him.
I for one hopes Cellino gets the club, and let's just wait and see what happens, will be a fun ride along the way, and at least he has an interest in football. Andy Flowers Goes Pop and his friends wouldn't be able to take us to the next level.
Nice MOT

Wouldnt it be easy just to put your name to your rumour instead of 10th poster to 15th poster etc?

Andy flowers is punching above his weight trying to become leeds uniteds owner. sucessfull premier league teams are controlled by the elites who buy clubs as toys in the same way we go to toysruz for our children. Andy flowers is better of trying to negotiate a deal with Harry ramsden selling fish and chips. Cellino ticks my boxes.

I am the 11th poster and all I am trying to put across is my opinion, many people with loads of dosh are ruthless that's how they get there, but they are successful. Bates love him or hate him he did a job for Leeds and took us as far as he could then tried to get as much back as he could before he was jogged on. Ultimately success will come but it has to start from results on the pitch, let's not get to carried away with the Huddersfield game 3 points from a possible 21, I like BMD but it will be a steady plod along mid table 4-6 points off the play-offs season "building" for next season selling Ross & Sam to fund it.
This will be the same with Flowers & co local businessmen ticking over in the community not wanting to upset people by taking any gambles, do people think Cellino would pay 25 mil of his personal fortune to deliberately destroy the club? no he invests for success and won't hang around with 5 year plans, people are writing about who are Cagliari? what have they achieved? they have spent the last 10 years in Serie A

Its looking like the Italian stallion is the leader in a one horse race. If he comes in i'd like him to give BMD a chance but more than anything i'd like him to keep to that plan of building proper foundations at the club.

Im not saying he would but what if he dismantled the academy? Would that be worth it.

Anyway a deep breath and let's brace ourselves. I liked Ken Bates i'm sure I can learn to like this guy.

Ciao, Fawksey

What lies has Cellino told? It is widely known that Noruddin and Al-Rayes were were talking about removing Brian after the Sheffield debacle. The pay-off would have been an obstacle. Flowers has blown his lot out of the water now anyway. Chapel A

Sacking mcd could be a cultural thing, Italians are more red blooded and erratic than we are . in Italy if you havnt won for 8 games put in rubbish performances got knocked of a cup by a lower team then respond to that by putting in a heartless performance and loose six nil to a team 3rd from bottom of the league you get sacked . he probably thought it would get us on his side not realising that we would think hang on he is a nice guy and will do well with time which is to our great credit . only my opinion though .

Good opinion, sounds logical!

The performance has been dire for last few weeks, but would you play your herat out not knowing what was going to happen to the club, and bmd had his hands tied with players not wanting to play, no players coming in either. at least last weeks performance shows that stability brings freedom to play. that's what alll this is about, e I e I e I o.

mot rothwell white

04 Feb 2014 22:51:29
the club WILL not go into administration salah noorudin has said Andrew flowers has (threatened) getting the money back whilst matching cellinos bid is an attempt to win the takeover as if cellino wins the takeover then he will have to dock 4m for example off the 25m gfh get but if they go with david haigh they will get the full 25m cellino won't win the takeover bid he has done way too much if they was about to sell to cellino they wouldn't of met the other consortium plus they will obviously go in favour of haigh if they match the bid

So what will Mr Flowers do, write off the £4 million pounds?So in effect you are saying according to your figures Mr Flowers and his consorts are paying £29 million for the club, or are we to believe the£4 million will just disapear?Ps Can you yell me where you read Mr Noohrudin's comments on this matter?

"Can you yell me where you read Mr Noohrudin's comments on this matter?"

I'd like to see ANY of this guys comments in writing, it seems he has a lot to explain with all his double dealing and apparent lying?

No wonder Flower's consortium dropped their bid after due diligence.

05 Feb 2014 00:20:43
noohrudins has said to the tv the club will not have money problems whilst gfh are at Leeds united on the tv website and what I meant was if they go with cellino then flowers will charge the club the fee but if Haigh's consortium win then he will not do so they would favour Haigh's consortium especially with the way cellino has behaved along with gfh favouring Haigh

If GFH are selling 75% and after that they will have 10% who the hell owns 15% of our club. Is that the ground or some thing?

Sorry MOT

They sold 10% to a middle eastern investment bank and 5% to Salah Nooruddin quite a while ago

05 Feb 2014 18:09:36
IMO deal already done with Cellino, just waiting for the FA approval, hence why Flowers has gone on the offensive. Think meeting with other group only as contingency if FA reject Cellino as an owner. After neglect and asset stripping by KB since administration, not much asset value left in the club. What GFH want is someone to throw cash into the club to get back to Prem where their 15% will increase in value - they obviously have more confidence in Cellino doing that than other group. So it would appear Cellino (with all his eccentricities) is our best bet of Prem League return in the near future. Like it or not that's the reality.

04 Feb 2014 22:04:29
Rumours about that the players might not get paid this month? Are things that bad?

{Ed013's Note - They have been paid}

Rumours were that the players were paid but the rest of the staff were not. Looks like this is where the £1.5m we borrowed off Cellino last week went.

I am a personal friend of one of the players and HE HAS BEEN paid ontime everytime, as far as he knows ALL the players have been paid as normal every month.

Andy MOT

04 Feb 2014 20:01:01
McDermott a candidate for the Swansea job now Laudrup has been sacked

Same source as Laudrup linked to Leeds I presume

Would'nt blame him if he did!! nickybee

Just a pure guess with no substance to the allegations.

Funny I am sure I read a day or so ago that Swansea Chairman had said there had been no discussion re Laudrup position and not in doubt. Another Chairman to be trusted!

Would folk be happy with a swap?

Hell yh!

Just a thougt, if Mr McDermott left our club and took up the Swansea job and we then employed Mr Laudrop, how many would be unhappy?Plus would it mean he was being disloyal or would it be justified?If any fans think it would be justified, then a quick thought, I want to buy the club You manage the new prospective owner makes a few request, you blatantly turn them down, citing you don't agree with him.Would you expect to keep your job?Before I get shot down I don't agree with how it was done, so just just asking for opinions?

BMcD was on Swansea's shortlist before they signed Laudrup so think there is a little truth in this one actually

Good. . .

04 Feb 2014 19:32:47
The English consortium(s) do not have the money to take Leeds forward, we will stagnate. The Italian (his words) has the finance and, love him or hate him, is a football man. We have cried our for years for just this. it may fail but give the man a chance - it might just work. As we are we are going nowhere and will continue to go nowhere with the English consortium(s). Accept mediocrity and lower league football or let's have a go, it will be fun whatever happens! A man that says what he thinks and thinks he is right - sounds like a Yorkshireman already.

Well said!

Agree 100%with you! let him and and see what he can do, he can't be any worse than we've had for the last 10 years and it might just work.

Well said, if Flowers and his now 10 man consortium take over we will go nowhere, we need to compete with financial clout the likes of Man city, Chelsea etc. Even Leciester, Qpr and Notts Forest in our own division, are buying success, it has to be Cellino who will invest and take us back to the promised land not a bunch of muppets without a pot to p##s in all wanting their share of any profit

Agreed.

Yep that makes sense, Flowers showing true colours, can't see why he is any better than the Italian.
We need investment the Italian seems to have it, give it a go for God sake or it will get worst for the club. YEP is also bias in way reporting stuff, they so against him as prob in bed with the "English no money consortium" as for Lust well they don't speak for me, let's hope it goes through before Saturday.

DG the voice of reason?

I tend to agree with you all. GFH's tenure of LUFC has been awful. These guys in the consortium don't seem to possess the funds to take us forward; they are there just to try and foil Cellino. The best case scenario? Cellino's Euros and McDermott's footballing sense.

I suggest the original poster takes a look at this " football mans" background" in italy he is renowned for bringing good young players through and selling them sound familiar and this billionaire has spent £ 35 million in twenty years at caligary and 36 managers? ITS BATES ALLOVER AGAIN

05 Feb 2014 11:08:33
ppl saying gfh did nothing have some sort of memory loss . gfh came in and turned things around .they got the fans back by reducing the ticket prices which is probably the reason we are in the state we are in today .they tried to keep fans happy by signing a few players, they give mccormack and byram better deals . they could easily decide not to sell leeds and just tighten up and put ticket prices up but they have realized that this would only annoy fans so instead they are selling up and trying to get best deal for them and the fans.

04 Feb 2014 19:12:20
It gets even worse, Cellino is suing GFH if they don't honour their verbal agreement with him (nothing is in writing) while Flowers is preparing legal action against the FL if they approve Cellino whilst also having issued the winding up order against GFH. You couldn't make it up!

You forgot if the Football League don't approve Cellino then he may take action against them. The Football League could be sued either way! If the Football League don't approve then Flowers drops both his cases and FL may face challenge from Cellino but would Cellino want to risk having it all dragged through English Courts. I think our Courts would be more inquisitive than Italy's and he knows that.

If we get new owners Gfh can thumb a lift back

Flowers legal action? are you having a laff from what I have been told he would be lucky to scrape his bus fare home.

LET HIM ROT

Andy MOT

Suing the football league ha ha i'd love to see that, for doing what exactly they'll have a set of boxes to tick and if cellino meets all of them then that's that

04 Feb 2014 18:03:35
Being reported that flowers went to the courts to obtain a winding up order on the 29th of january and he calls himself a fan, he's a f***ing disgrace and an excuse of a fan. Come on cellino get rid of this muppet

Flowers hasn't got leeds at heart at all we don't want this waste of space let's see what this Cellini will bring I'd rather him blow his millions trying to improve leeds united then any other club!

I think the winding up order is against GFH-C not LU. Even so they could opt for administration and be ordered to sell to highest bidder.

04 Feb 2014 19:12:18
Flowers has put more money into this club than GFH - he's just using a business tactic to stop GFH selling behind his back whilst the new consortia hold talks. Stop flapping!

Agree. don't need another 10 years of this. I believe more UPS than downs with cellino. when is the last time some one. I MEAN ONE. not 4 or 5 offered some real hope.

Its a winding up petition not order, its to stop Cellino takeover.

04 Feb 2014 16:06:59
heard on yesterday from their italian correspondent that Cellino has had an offer of 90 million euros to buy CAGLIARI off him.
be great if he used that money at LEEDS, but he did also imply that Cellino is crackers and that nobody in italy would be surprised at what happened over the weekend.

04 Feb 2014 13:21:06
Bryn law says farnan and flowers together is not going to happen, haigh talking to flowers today to see if sc can resurrect there bid.

But could farnans consortium bid on their own?

04 Feb 2014 14:34:32
see lust saying members don't want cellino but want to know about consortiums plans and finances. How many of them would still say that if said consortium say they love the club but we've no money.

04 Feb 2014 14:44:29
Could that be why they want to know more?

How can you make informed opinion if they haven't declared their plans?

04 Feb 2014 15:23:25
he's not said that on twitter. and talks are said to be underway in London?

So you want your cake and eat it? Its not a gane choose. and choose massimo. Enough already

LUST need to get a grip of reallity. If Cellino doesn't take Leeds over then it'll be championship football at best for the rest of our lives because, in my opinion, all the other supposed consortiums are publicity seeking and nothing else. So what if Cellino has got a chequered past, he's also got bags of cash and has already said he's going to spend plenty. I say give Cellino a chance and if he doesn't come up to expectation then do what I will be doing if he doesn't which is stop going

All convictions spent, FA have to accept Rehab of Offenders Act, they can't operate outside of it. Current investigation, premise is innocent until proven guilty therfore in legal parlance not admissable, therefore Mr C home amd dry legally, FA would find themsleves in a difficult legal position if they declined. GFH could go back on the 'agreement' but I guess lawyers might have something to say about this, it could cost them a significant sum, that's if there is such an agreement in place, all indications are that there is.

Curiouser and Curiouser said Alice

a cornish white

Leeds need cellino he can take us to the next level and when does any body give a damn what lust think

I bet there's not many rich people about who haven't done dodgy dealings to get where they are toiday

If he has the money and wants to spend it on making the team better I say give the Mad Italian a go, the reason is because the others don't really seem to have the money and GFH don't so why not take a chance?
I want Mac to stay but he is not the club, so if I paid £25m for something and after a while (end of season we were say 10th) then I would have the right to change and see if I could get club into prem and make money!

DG the voice of reason

Don't let these jokers buy this club no money maybe will just scrape asking price

Agree with above two posts. lust no nothing. when that gfh took over wasn't it cooper that said I think its fair we can dream again. and as for that patel we won't be spending crazy money. he's right just wants to make crazy money. as for cellino I pray he gets our club. been at Cagliari since 1992. ironically the last time we really had something to celebrate.

What have most of the premier clubs got in common? -megarich owners who could be termed( dodgy ).cellino promises to buy back elland road and fund leeds to the premiership .no consortium has promised that, they can only buy the club with stage payments!i don't think the italian's club in sardinia can be compaired to leeds their gates are less than 10,000 and that's in serie A he has propped them up for twenty years .that to me sounds like commitment, not someone after profit .before abramovitch, chelsea had bates remember!

04 Feb 2014 11:58:56
I've seen all the rumours that it looks clear that Cellino will be granted permission to take over. Also a few rumours that 2 more young lads from the Italian league coming this week on loan.

My biggest worry is that if this guy has been at caligari for 20 odd years AND it's his hometown club, is it not worrying that there not on par with the top European clubs by now and never have been since his reign? Apparently he's got billions according to some people - he's hardly thrashed it around at the club he supports so why would he do it at Leeds? It makes me wonder why he feels the need to produce 'false account figures' if he's a billionaire!?!

ASCOT
MOT!

I'm not fighting his corner but, Cagliari were Serie C when he started, now fairly solid serie A. He has spent a fair amount of dosh, but the managers isn't place have not used it to wisely. They have had some players go through Cagliari to bigger clubs though as they weren't progressing so I see your concerns

I hope he does takeover, at least has a lot of money, (which he will spend on players) a passion for football, and most importantly, he actually knows how to run a club, since he has been doing it for 20 odd years. give

Cagliari, is a small club in Italy, them being in Serie A, is the equivelant of Leyton Orient being in the Premiership.

Yea I thought that as well

Original poster here.

Whilst I did not realise that caligari were a seria c side when he took over and will give him his credit there, I don't buy the fact that he fully knows how to run a football club. The guy has gone through nearly and average of 2 managers per calender year in his reign - that's either 2 managerial mistakes per year or just a ruthless attitude and if he has risen them 2 leagues to a stable seria a side why the need to weird the axe so much?

I agree with BMD when he said leeds is a supporters club and you need to grasp the passion of what Leeds UNITED actually means to the fans. 38 different managers or however many there has been sacked doesn't fill me with a 'united' optimistic attitude.

I hope I'm wrong and will back hhim with support if he comes in.

Scot
MOT!

Well ill be honest, I hope he does takeover, yes he's a questionable character, but he has a hell of a lot more money than this consortium, sure they might be able to buy the club, with 7 mil or whatever the price was, but after that? general daily running, players wages, 1m + annually, good enough players for a promotion push and buying back Elland road, I just don't think their pockets are deep enough.

To be on par with the top european sides in 20 years or ever would be impossible for a team like Calgieri.You would never get top players to go to Calgieri.Plus top European sides keep moving forward so to catch them up would be near impossible.As there is only so much money you can throw at a football club.The trick is to start with a better club, so not as far to go, to get to the top.

I completely want him to take over
lust say 75% of their 9000 membership don't want him, so, that's 6750 people saying no .
Please LUST don't screw this up .
TS

He's seen a lot of attempts to build a new stadium fall apart and gotten fed up with the corrupt nature of the Italian game but, he is Italian Dirigente so will always be completely unpredictable and probably make decisions on a whim. Worth noting that Calgiari supporters really like him.

"I completely want him to take over
lust say 75% of their 9000 membership don't want him, so, that's 6750 people saying no .
Please LUST don't screw this up .
TS"

But then again 75% of lufc don't like LUST

An excellent post I concur with your views. It doesn't take a lot of research to see that he has not ploughed his money into his 'beloved' Cagliari.

To the person who said that it would be impossible to make Caligari a top european club in 20 years.so what about when City we in the 3rd tier not so long ago?! Even prior to the last 5 years or so City were never a HUGE club whilst in the premier league – i'd hardly called players like Corradi, Vassell, Claudio Reyna, Michael Ball and Ben Thatcher world class but now look at them. If this guy had as much as the reports say (Man City Money), or if he was as ambitious as the city owner then Caligari would be on the map and a bigger name for me!?

Again I would give the guy my backing in support but only time will Tell. Having said that this TO needs sorting sooner the better. I can't help but think that once again we are going through a potential takeover right at the end of the transfer window.I wonder why?

Scot
MOT!

He's done a great job at calgari kept them in top division only get 8000 fans home games and I guess they won't of got hardly any fans last season when they had to play home games few hundred miles away due to stadium closed

That was partly my point, Man City like Leeds may have been in the 3 rd tier of football but with the right backing as City now have, potential to be a major player, don't think Calgieri ever will, similar to a York City.

Man city had terrific crowds even in the third tier, so did leeds .the sardinian side can muster less than 10,000 even in serie A .no comparison

It doesn't take much research to see he hasn't ploughed much money into Calgeiri?Well the man must be a genius, to keep a team averaging 8,000 gates, in the top division for 20 years .

04 Feb 2014 09:40:57
Not that it really matters now - but the rumoured 4 members of Sport Capital where David Haigh, Andrew Flowers, Terry Riley and Paul Davidson

wonder if Terry Riley and Paul Davidson are true and if they are in the new consortium?

Have you googled Terry Riley, Liverpool. If you think Cellino wasnt good for the club check this guy out and think again

According to yesterday's Liverpool Echo which reports how hacked off Terry Riley is having spent months and a considerable amount of money as a member of Sports Capital bid- "the Sports Capital consortium included backers from Dubai, . wait for it. MONACO!! and Majorca". Is this why their financial backers identities haven't been made public?

Why would the financial backers remain anonymous? Terry Riley is a nightclub owner ain't he?

Paul Davidson, can not be the professional snooker player, can it, and then some anonymous backers from Dubai and Monaco, that must be where the money is coming from doh, any fan who actually backs this Sport Capital bid need to seriuosly think WHY?

04 Feb 2014 14:09:04
not the same Davidson, this one lives in Majorca and once tried to buy Real Mallorca, know has the plumber!

Riley no longer involved. The person living in Monaco is Flowers