Leeds Rumours Archive May 18 2012

 

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18 May 2012 19:46:03
Mcfadden released by everton. Get him signed leeds

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McFadden has seen his best days and should perhaps contemplate retirement. He's not been picked by first teams for a reason.

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I am connected to Thorpe Arch, and admittedly drunk, however i have seen or heard about neither McFadden, Beckford, Smith, Woodgate Or Yeboah . The news tonight is 'Hill", 'Clint Hill'

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Connected to Thorpe arch? What u do, handcuff yourself to the gates? {Ed013's Note - Haha nice one}

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Please no!!!!! he wasnt good enough for birmingham so why would he be good enough for us? hes past it!! maybe we can offer him a position as a steward!! lol

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We've had too many oldies in recent years. Paul Dickov anyone?! Surely young, hungry and fresh is the way to go for the most part

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Ed! What is he talking about above when he says "not heard about Yeboah?"
Has he not heard of him or is there like a management/coach rumour of some kind linked? He clearly isn't still playing at 45! {Ed013's Note - Lets just say it was posted around the time of night when its possible a lot of alcohol may have been consumed!}

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Not connected to thorpe arch but did a show with Mcfadden's cousin who is a good mate of mine, she said he wants to go back home which for thoes of you unsure is scotland. dont think he would sign for leeds unless we showed real interest and deisre to get him which i dont think we would/should

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18 May 2012 14:22:14
Lecister sign varney for 1 mil source Ssn and lecister site

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It's not Varney it's Jamie Vardy from Fleetwood town!

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You mean Vardy (Fleetwood) not Varney (Pompey)

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*Vardey from fleetwood not Varney from portsmouth. Vardey scored 34 goals in the conference last season.

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Also this is the whites rumours page not the filbert street foxes where is our rumour. I know u mean it to be linked to beckford but so does every1 else.

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^ he thought it was varney so it would have been related cos we've been linked to varney. but he's an person and can't read the article properly

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A lot of money for an unproven striker at our level but good luck to him mot !!

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18 May 2012 14:11:37
SSN: Leicester City sign Jamie Vardy!
So more and more signs Beckford could be shown the door, come on Warnock :D
RyanMOT

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Theres nothing to say Warnock thinks much of Beckford as a player, just because he was here under Grayson doesn't mean Warnock would have him here

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Never said he did. I said 'come on Warnock'! Meaning I WANT him to.

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Just out of interest how much is beckford on at leicester? Because all we can offer is max 15k (correct me if I'm wrong) just didn't know how much of a wage drop it would be if he did return to Leeds? {Ed013's Note - About 35K}

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18 May 2012 12:40:51
robbie blake done deal,,, fiends with a friend,,, just waiting to be signed off

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No thanks.. Strikers a bit younger with pace are what we need, Robbie's well past it.

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You do know he is 36 years old now don't you - I doubt this is the direction Warnock wants to go

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Lets hope not....not wanting to sound ageist but 36 seems to go agains the young and hungry targets colin is looking for

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Pace and power nw said hardly describes robbie blake no chance complete tosh

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When you said blake, i said for fu=k sake now stop the jokes your killing me. mot4life

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He was as slow as a cart horse 4 years ago when he was at leeds,please talk sense or dont talk at all!!

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Its olny what i have been told from a very reliable source with no reason to lie,,,, i am not happy with it,, at all

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18 May 2012 12:36:07
Leeds and 2 unknown championship clubs are in talks with portsmouth Joel Ward on the weekend.
He will come to Leeds because Jason Pearse is at Leeds former portsmouth player

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He might want to stay down South for family reasons, who knows - money is not always the deciding factor, or friendships.

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Just because pearce is his best freind does not mean he will come to leeds utd i wish people would stop posting rubbish

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They're best mates but it doesn't necessarily mean he'll sign...

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Let's hope he comes here -Leeds is going to be the place to be. Liking the way the summer's going so far -NW impressing me with who he's talking to, and his pragmatism when it comes to the likes of Mac and Clayton (neither of whom could get in the team remember, when we were flying in 2010-11).

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Please forgive me for being a tad negative but just exactly are you impressed by?? talking to who exactly? talking means nothing, all i see is more players wanting to leave than wanting to join, i see a long hard season ahead unfortunately for us long suffering lufc fans.

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The unknown clubs are derby and Ipswich and we're closer to the deal than they are but nothings been agreed or decided on
So could still go against us but looks good {Ed013's Note - No, the unknown clubs are Blackpool and Sheff Wed. Ipswich, Palace and Burnley have already held talks}

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I'd have thought if he were coming here he'd have signed.

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18 May 2012 12:27:54
beckford would be a good re sign i think. maybe a few players from qpr would be good but only ones that have the experience of playing championship and promotion.

a keeper is needed although lonagran or what ever his name is, is a decent shot stopper i feel he has a part to blame in most goals conceeded.

a few prem lge keepers r up for grabs on a free by a list i saw a day or two ago.

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Lonergan was a 100k keeper who'd been dropped to (relegated) Preston's reserves. You get what you pay for.

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18 May 2012 12:10:59
Bolton maybe's ??
Reo-cocker
p robinson
i klasnic
m connoly
Just to name a few could do a good job at Leeds Gj

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All will be on too much money for us to compete, I doubt anyone from the Premiership, with the exception of QPR cast offs, will even consider droppiong wages.

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Reo-Cocker activated his own relaese clause in his contract (prob so he can move back to the prem and keep his high wages) - We have no chance

Robinson although solid and no nonsense wasnt sensational when he was on loan and Warnock didnt seem all that impressed - No point

Klasnic would be an amazing signing with his eye for goal. M Connolly is a decent prospect. Would be happy wi both.

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Warnock's already said he doesn't want Robinson or we'd have signed him by now and i'm pretty sure Matt Connoly plays for QPR.

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The Paul Robinson we want plays for Blackburn -would be akin to when we resigned Lukic from Arsenal -the rest is history... Bolton's Robbo is an absolute no-go!

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18 May 2012 12:08:46
Bolton have released 12 players, maybe Leeds should have a look at a couple Gj
Ref McCormack lets just sell him now !!

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18 May 2012 10:55:42
"Akos Buzsaky is considering his future after being offered a one-year contract by QPR.

Several Championship clubs have expressed an interest in the Hungarian, who had hoped to be offered a longer-term deal with higher wages"

Quality player and would bring with him a "great song"! I can hear it now being sung from the terraces! Come on Neil this is the one ex-QPR player we could do with?

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This is the level of player we need to be signing if we are going to show our intention next season

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18 May 2012 10:54:18
Good old Ross, had a great season and is a top player but time to move on i think. Warnock has already stated he wouldnt be 1st choice next season, more of an impact player. Cash in and get someone on a long term contract commited to the cause. The futures bright, the futrure is Warnock. Mot

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I agree we dont need players tht dont wana stay without massive wages its simple dont want to sign then f**k off n rot on some premier league bench MUGS

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Warnock will sell Ross - Only wants what we want, players committed to LUFX and getting us to the premiership. I was never a warnock fan, but I beleive we should trust him

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Unfortunately we never get adequate replacements thats the downside to our players leaveing, it isnt that they cant be replaced its that they just dont get replaced. Mac

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One good season at LUFC and the boy thinks he's Lionel Messi, let him go it gets cold sat on the bench in the Winter months and that is where he will end up if he goes to a Premiership outfit.

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Main issue is that if he goes I reckon Snoddy will follow. When push comes to shove we need to know sooner rather than later so decide now Ross and if its no or even just only maybe, get him listed!

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18 May 2012 10:52:12
Guy looking for a sensible answer.

What do you think it would cost to buy Uncle ken out, thoughts please...

Sir Phillip.

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Maybe 70 million but then maybe another 40 for the stadium an thorpe arch and maybe 20%of all future incomes for next 10 seasons

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I'm told there have been multiple offers for the club over the past few years, but that the current board are interested only in a cash investment rather than a sale.

The club is independently valued at around 45m, but Ken's asking price is 90m i.e. the club is not for sale except for silly money. It is NOT an attractive investment currently, with no stadium or training ground and a steadily declining fanbase.

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10 Mil to 15 mil? Don't own Stadium, don't own thorp arch. teams thats not all been sold yet is worth about 10 - 11 mil.

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About a tenner and seven of your finest sheep sir phillip...hows that for a sensible answer, about as sensible as the question, hey sir Phillip you shouldnt ask on here but get a man servant to check for one's self

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20-25 mill. pounds?? We do not own either Elland Road or Thorpe Arch so players worth in the area 9-11 mill.

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Knowing him a the prices he likes to charge probably about 25/30 million.

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Think he'd want @35 million to be honest Gj

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Well he seems to value things far more than reality but i would think 25,000,000 should be tempting enough for him to walk away,bearing in mind how old he is now too!! it all depends on his restrictions regarding the administration etc!

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Bates wants 60 million and a seat on the board

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He wants 100 mil now or 150 mil when we reach the prem league after buying the everything back with the money received for going up and hes not intending on putting any money into new players

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If you are that serious try contacting the club. As you can see, no one on here knows so they just pick random numbers off the top of their heads.

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18 May 2012 10:08:56
NEWSFLASH!!

Ross McCormack set to leave Leeds after turning down contract offer, now we know who asked for £15K!

Leeds boss Neil Warnock admits he does not expect striker Ross McCormack to accept the club's terms on a new contract.

The 25-year-old's current deal runs to next summer, but his decision to refuse an extension could see the Scotland international leave during the close season.

McCormack was signed from Cardiff on a three-year deal in 2009 and after a quiet first season at Elland Road he hit the net 19 times during the last campaign.

"It's unlikely he'll sign," Warnock said. "We've offered Ross an increase but his representatives made it clear that they're looking for a more significant increase after the season he's had.

"We've agreed to play it by ear and see where things go from here but he's going into his last year and it might be that people come in for him now."

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Ed, would it be possible to not allow the same rumour to be posted so much? as just take a look at the main page, so many others have already posted this news about Ross, it just clutters up the page

I know it means more work for you, but the only alternative is for users to actually read the site before posting {Ed013's Note - I am trying mate, but there is more than me on here so the other eds may not see that it is already posted. I am trying to get rid of the unbelievable one's, the Smith one's and any that repeat themselves}

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Think it was Aidy White who asked for 15K not Ross. Would like to know how much we have actually offered our top goal scorer to stay! {Ed013's Note - It wasn't Aidy White it was Adam Clayton's agent}

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Thanks Ed, while I have posted fair amount of times on here, most of it about how some people are idiots for posting rubbish, despite them, I do enjoy coming here on a daily basis, and your work is appreciated, so please don't take my comments in a negative way, it's just frustrating seeing posters not use some common sense

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Sod Mcormack and his greedy agent. There is better out there who would kill to wear the white shirt. White til I die.

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We should be paying our best players ross, snoddy etc 15 to 25 k per week if we are to compete. we will now have to let our top scorer go and replace him with who? beckford and pay him 30 k a week? dont think so and he aint nowhere near as good as ross anyway. defo think snoddy will be on his way soon.we simply are not competing at the level we need to both these players can get 20 to 25k a week in the premn and with other championship clubs... 12 k a week get real.

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Hi Ed - Origional poster here, yes i had seen it on the forum earlier, but ive pasted the details from the yorkshire post with NW comments, so evryones doesnt have to start to google it as its a correct rumour rather than someone guessing. {Ed007's Note - No worries mate.}

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"We should be paying our best players ross, snoddy etc 15 to 25 k per week if we are to compete."

You don't need to. Besides, look at Leicester and Ipswich.

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Macca out, Darius Henderson in, as I posted before, rated by NW as one of the best in the division, wouldn't cost as much as we'd get for Macca and woud probably want less wages.

'C'

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If you seriously think that championship players like snodgrass and mccormack should be on 25k a week then you need to wake up and get off champ manager. paying stupid wages is why leeds got in a mess last time

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To the guy who stated we should be paying our best players 25k a week, What world do you live in? How many should earn this amount? if it was say 4 players, that would cost the club after tax and national insurance 6 million pound alone. What do you think the other 20 players in the squad would say then? Do you understand that to pay for these 4 players the club would need to sell 250,000 tickets at around 25.
Please everyone use to sense and have a think before you talk rubbish!

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Absolute rubbish, no offence to Ross but he has had one good season. Let him go there are better strikers out there.

TeejLUFC

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I fear this will trigger a chain re-action with Snoddy waiting to see wo is signed / who stays.

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So if Clayton wanted 15K and was rightly turned down, how much do we think McCormack is turning down from us? Likewise what do you think Snoddy's 'top' wages being offered are? I find this whole wages thing really hard to get my head around cos I don't really know what the going rate in the championship would be for an average striker like McCormack or average midfieilder like Clayton. I do believe that Snoddy is better than average, on his day he is very good but again what wages does a very good on his day striker deserve? Ed - can you shed any light on what you believe the 4 guys have been offered and what they likely want? {Ed013's Note - I believe Snoddy would be offered in the region of 15K where as Ross around 10K max. Clayton was on 2K and his agent wanted 15K}

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Love the comment "There are plenty better out there who would love to wear the white shirt."

Who? The sad truth is we don't have the pull we once did, as we have been out of the top flight for 7 years. Says it all about the club's ambition.

Football is a different game to how it was in the Revie or Wilko era. Players won't just come because it is Leeds, as we have seen time and time and time again.

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Let him go... I'm sure we could bring in a proven scorer at this level and move forward

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To the guy going on about tax and NI etc. First, you've got your maths appallingly wrong. 25k a week is about 1.5m per year.

And as for the bilge about tax, NI etc, you're starting to sound like Ken on one of his broadcasts. You don't hear other Chairmen going on about this, its all just excuses for not investing properly in the team. The player is liable for tax and National Insurance, not the club. Recommend you head back to finance school for a refresher session, and stop listening to Yorkshire Radio!

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The club pays National Insurance as an employer. 25k a week comes to 1.3million a year, but with agent fees, NI and other costs 4 players on 25k would be about 6million per year.

15,000 season ticket holders raises approx 10million.

Jake

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To the guy commenting to the guy going on about tax and NI etc. Firstly you are correct 25k per week is around 1.5m per year, But he also stated to pay four players this over a year would cost around 6m a year. Hence 4 x 1.5 = 6. Thank you and goodnight Brayzerwhite

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To last message. i think he meant for 4 players which would total 6 mil lol

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We really will not miss Mac if we get Beckford, who will score more goals; and Boyd, who is more creative. Bring it on!

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Swiss ramble studies on football finances report says what we all know that Leeds can afford to be paying more for players and on their wages in relation to our turnover.where is this money going, to develop the ground? We should have a top wage bracket of 15 to 20 k a week for our top 4 to 5 players not 10 to 15 k and we could even push to 25 k for one or 2 exceptional players.we are not competing even with the top championship clubs our best players keep leaving and we cannot compete with others. Snoddy will go next and we already are losing out to players we want. 12 k a week for your top scorer that's a joke.

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18 May 2012 09:14:54
Beckford return is becoming more likley , with a sale of clayton and mcormack the funds of deal would be available, also with the fall out with the manager and also the fair play rules coming into next season leicester are forced to sell players

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Hope so, would prefer Beckford everyday of the week to McCormack... ! (On the flip side Billy must be rubbing his hands together cos noone will want him !)

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What we do need in reality is Papa Smurf to actually put his hands in his pocket and pull out some cash to make it happen!!

Pete MOT

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Beckford over mccormack .what a joke . mccormack is alot better than beckford . his work rate is better mccormack would of scored alot more goals than he did if leeds had been playing well all season .
beckford is fast and can score but once his head drops its like playing with 10 men .

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I'll definitely take Beckford over McCormack 365 days a year! It's sounding like Ross has rejected his new contract (after we stuck with him following his awful debut season for us, shocking). Get rid of him and use the funds to entice Jermaine 'what shirt am I wearing bruv' Beckford back where he belongs. - JamesC

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Not a joke at all, ! perhaps not Beckford inparticular, but pace makes defences back off allowing space for others Snodgrass for example and the midfield. Likes of Ross defences are not worried about him running them.

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Most of the posts on here are very amusing, but it's getting tedious now with the constant Beckford talk. I don't want him back at my club. He's a petulant brat that on his day is good at best, but he's far from brilliant, and he hardly sets the heather alight. However, he's good at feigning injury or his he trying to push the stuffing back into his empty head?
Jedburgh white

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Really hope we get Beckford -a proven winner, with those all important X-factors: pace and timing. McCormack is decent, but I'd take Beckford over Mac every time.

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Beckford on 40 k a week, is he going to come to Leeds to earn 12 k a week? You do the Maths and get real

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18 May 2012 09:08:58
looks like where going to sign jermaine beckford before warnock goes away on holiday for a swap deal involving either ross mccormack or adam clayton. not sure about signing all pompeys defenders though, think we should try n nick benjani fans would love him. the big money should go on offering snodgrass anew deal though. in warnock we trust mot

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18 May 2012 07:36:15
McCormack is going to turn dwn is contract so expect him to b sold this summer n a replacement brought in
Klasnic
Beckford
Varney

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Cant help thinking that (Go with me here) Leeds offered Ross a new deal kind of expecting him to decline it, creates a media circus about the top scorer wanting out, then we sell him for half decent money and bring in an attacker with Pace.. Seems Warnock never fancied him / trusted him to lead the line in the games he was in charge. Played him as a winger .... {Ed013's Note - I had thought of that myself and if I we are honest would we miss him! Yes, before I get slated, he scored 19 goals, but how much of his playing time was greedy and losing the ball? How many times did he miss the target? etc etc. The one thing that sticks in my mind is when he scored and ignored SG as he was more bothered about pointing to the name on his back! Just things to think about as I believe we can bring in better and hopefully Somma can get over the injury and come back strong}

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18 May 2012 07:28:14
Ross McCormack will reject new deal according to the YEP.

Looks lime we're essentially looking for a brand new team. Problem is, as we saw with Johnson/Kilkenny/Gradel/Howson, with the wages we pay, we won't be able to bring in a replacement of the same quality. Will have to be a gamble on someone. In my opinion, we can forget promotion. Teams don't get thrown together over the summer and then go up. {Ed013's Note - QPR did}

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Yes but qpr wasn't paying peanuts to there players .bates OUT .top gks and defenders should be on 5 - 10 k per week top midfield should be on 10 - 15 k and top strikers should be up to 25 k in the championship . {Ed013's Note - The wage cap will be 20 grand max}

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Where does it say McCormack rejecting a new deal.

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I wish people would get beind there team and stop been so negative if you dnt like it go support another team its people like you what give leeds a bad name

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Nothing in yorkshire post of evening post, so where's this from ?

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Original poster here. Ed - I believe the wage cap is 15k per week, which we have offered Snodgrass. I would also concede QPR did do it to some extent, but they also spent 29m on wages, which is triple our budget.

To the person talking about negativity - its more being realistic. I don't see any point in pretending that we're going to go up next year when once again we're unable to keep our best players. The problem at the club is Bates. We have plenty of money to spend on a highly.competitive team, but year after year the money goes into pointless redevelopment work and Bates's pockets. But.if Leeds.fans just stopped giving him cash then he'd have no.choice but to sell up.

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Why forget promotion, the season is three months away. There is plenty of time to gel a team togheter....

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To be honest Ross should show a bit more loyalty to the club who really salvaged his career.He was out injured for a long time joined Leeds when he was over weight and they stuck by him after a rather disapointing first season the club should not be held to ransom i would rather have a player with hunger and passion for my team but does Ross really care about Leeds i think not!.

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Original poster here - agree on loyalty point. Unfortunately, since the advent of the mega-millions in football, player loyalty is a thing of the past. They have short careers, and in 99.9% of cases are interested in nothing more than filling their pockets with as much bunce as possible before retirement.

I don't understand people harking back to the Revie or Wilko era - those were totally different times, on a completely different football landscape. There is no loyalty now other than to the bank balance.

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Fans, players and agents need to realise that the FFP rules will bring a change to what clubs can offer players. Clubs can no longer afford to throw big salaries at players unless they are prepared to take a massive gamble.
The 15k/wk offered to Snoddy will become a top end salary in the Championship, and looking at other clubs turnovers not many will be able to afford that.
The problem is Ross thinks he can get more than that and the only place he will get that is the Premiership because even Leicester are looking to get rid of their big earners (Mills & Beckford for example)

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To the poster above who said "But.if Leeds.fans just stopped giving him cash then he'd have no.choice but to sell up" what do you think will happen to Leeds United if every fan stops buying tickets, merchandise etc etc?
This is what will happen turnover will drop significantly which means less money to invest in the team, quality of the team reduces, the club makes losses instead of profit, the club goes into administration etc etc.
So you would be happy for your club to die to get rid of Bates

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Yes ed qpr did go straight up but look how much money they spent {Ed013's Note - I don't know on wages, but on transfers it wasn't a lot}

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Original poster again - the club will die if Bates stays anyway. We URGENTLY need a return to the Premier League, I cannot stress this enough. Year after year, the fan base is declining as fans simply lose interest. The club also doesn't have the pull it once did. Players reaching 18/19 now will not remember Leeds as a big Premiership club, but a League 1/Championship club.

And worrying about how the club pays its bills if Bates's business plan doesn't succeed is for Ken himself to worry about. Rather administration etc, he would either begin investing in the team to draw the fans back, or sell up.

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To the poster who said "what do you think will happen to Leeds United if every fan stops buying tickets, merchandise etc etc?" Bates is taking the fans for mugs. He is spending your money redeveloping a ground that the club doesnt own, and he will only use it to charge the club higher rent, or a premium to buy it back in the future when he sells it on. Its like a landlord making a tennent pay to do up his house, and then sticking the rent up cos its a nicer house! Anyone who continues to fund Bates is a mug.

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Its the same old story as it was on here last year ppl complaining that we hadn't signed anyone and others saying there is nothing to worry about most saying the squad as it was was good enough to at least make the playoffs and some even tipping us for a promo spot(last year) lol. And what happened nothing we sold some of our better players replaced them with a few world beaters lol sacked the manager and replaced him with another and finished 14th while in the end bates made 3.5mill profit. When oh when are the fans going to wake up. The pessimists are actually realists trying to wake other fans up but tbh whats the point if they have not woken up by now they never will.

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18 May 2012 07:26:01
Looks like McCormack is on his way, Colin says his advisors are looking for more than Leeds can offer. Source YEP
Oh dear, here we go again !
Keith

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Here we go where again? Ross is not worth 20k a week. Ricky Lambert scored more goals on less money than Ross was, so it would not be the end of the world if he went. I want hungry players, with a desire to win and wear the white shirt, not mercenaries. White til i die.

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Let him go one good season,first season here dire

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I know this is going to sound like im just badmouthing him because he is leaving, but his consistency is terrible.

I've always found McCormack to be a confidence player, as I personally think he is too easily frustrated if he cannot score. He is a good player, but for 5 to 6 games at a time he will be non-existent on a pitch.

He is someone i'd like to have kept, and I know there isn't many player who can keep form all year, but when he plays bad, he really doesn't seem to be trying at all.

This is just my personal opinion, and I haven't watched him every single game, but I think if he does go I have faith Warnock can bring in someone better for less wages, and money.

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Same old story if he turns down a contract he is suddenly a bad player. They cant see the real problem at the moment. These players can get better deals elsewhere and they do end of story. Its not like they are leaving a team of world beaters, they are leaving the most unstable team in the division. What are the fans expecting, the only rumours that are looking like coming true atm are the one's of players leaving. I wouldn't come anywhere near leeds atm if I was a player and thats being a leeds fans so best of luck bring in new players its going to be the same old story all over again.

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18 May 2012 02:04:19
Leeds are looking at their attacking options and are intrested in signing Dexter Blackstock from nottingham forest for £1.5 Million.

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Blackstock is not worth 1.5m im sorry mate bin this report.

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1.5m for one championship player? Why not buy 3 good players for roughly 500k like Pearce?

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Disagree, good striker -better than any we have at present, Mac included

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Uncle ken wont spend that 15 pound then he might get his wallet out after he brushes of the dust

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