Leeds Rumours Archive September 19 2012

 

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19 Sep 2012 23:33:06
I work in Huddersfield and was filling my car up at the garage and in front was Cameron Jerome filling his white Bentley up. Not coming to Leeds though guess Huddersfield. Second best again and getting fed up of rubbish.

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Cameron jerome comes from huddersfield and still has family there so this means nothing really although i dont think he is prolific enough for our requirements right now!

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Agreed - Cameron Jerome went to my school and used to play a few years below me for Sunday League team. He spends a lot of time in Huddersfield still.

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Fed up of rubbish.... so who said we were even interested in him? or for that matter approached him and offered him any sort of deal? stop gettin carried away with unrealiable rumours and then throwing ur toys out when it dusnt go through!

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19 Sep 2012 21:51:58
Leeds poised to sign George Boyd on loan with a view to a permanent deal in January, he turned down Ipswich in the summer and will cost around 400k due to his contract running out in the summer.

-MS

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I wish


Danny ls8

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With what money. Bates won't put money in while he selling

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19 Sep 2012 19:20:56
just been reading a few forums and quite a few supporters have info that the takeover has gone through as of 5.20pm today. Apparently Harvey will stay on till end of season to sort out the changeover. NW has been given the green light to progress with loan signings. New owners have also obtained Thorp Arch and Elland Road and want to re-develop west stand.
Announcement is expected tomorrow, but due been let down so many times I will also believe it when I see it.

Pedro the White

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Don't get your hopes up it won't happen

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This is on the leeds utd page

Ken Bates on the takeover and LUST

Rumours abound and continue to circulate about the proposed new investment in Leeds United.

Despite the confidentiality agreement, stories keep appearing with varying degrees of accuracy as evidenced by the statements put out by LUST, including a TV Interview some months ago that a deal was ˜imminent'. It wasn't then and is progressing slowly now. In football everybody expects everything now “ but the real world is different. Time does not always have the same urgency to others. Let me Illustrate this.

Last February, we agreed to talk to another Middle Eastern party from a different country to those we are talking to now. When in June we announced that we had signed an exclusivity agreement with the potential investors, the first party introducer went bananas. threatening to report Shaun Harvey to me, the Football League and (interestingly) to LUST! They had not taken their interest forward for nearly four months at that stage.

The current situation is that as i write, the appropriate documents have not been finalised between the lawyers (although of that, more later), Meanwhile, we continue to run the club and the kids on the Monaco beach have appreciated the free pens! Ignore the speculation which is simply ignorance based on ignorance. Terry Wogan, an unlikely philosopher, wrote in The Times recently: ˜People believe what they want to believe regardless of the facts!'

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Haha i didnt see that bit about the pens frist time i seen that, knowing him he probably sold the pens to the poor kids!! lol
KD

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Youve only let your self down pedro for believing forums, blogs , reporters. believe the OS only . its progressing and it will come to a conclusion when it comes to a conclusion. Bloggers will not know before anybody else it will be revealed to all the main press at the same time

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Yeah thats a fair point mate, wasnt claiming to be in the know or anything, just read on another forum. thought i would pass it on. We can but pray that the cancer is soon out of Leeds United.

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It is deeply mysterious as to why this so-called sale of the club is taking so long. The statement Bates put out was, in fact, a non-statement, so little did it give away. I now feel that, without a serious injection of funds, the club is in danger of relegation. Confidence is draining away; our defence seems hardly better than it was last year - and that was the worst defence in the history of the club. I don't blame Warnock - I think he's doing his best with funds ludicrously inadequate for the tast he's been set. But have you noticed how well Huddersfield are doing under Grayson - what caused Grayson to fail at Leeds - and will, I fear, cause Warnock to fail, is Bates demanding that his managers achieve premiership status with a Division 1 wage structure.

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Our defence is far much better than last year? even against Hull when we conceded three the defence was very solid it was just Aidy White letting us down for the first 2 and if he didnt do that they would have got the third as that was because we pushed men up while chasing the game. Pearce is by far the best CB we have had in years. And Kenny by far the best keeper. We WON'T get relegated at all go support another club if you want to be over negative. Our squad is threadbare and we don't 'have a cat in hells chance' of promotion with it but relegation is a mass over exaggeration.

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19 Sep 2012 18:04:22
Royston Drenthe heading our way to help us out, I hear so......

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Hahah your funny

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Why not...currently without a club

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Not to mention Royston Vasey ...

fatfreddyscat

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More chance o royston rogers flower

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Royston Cropper or maybe Hayley...

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Lol why would someone like him come to leeds? hes far 2 good, i love leeds but plz get real

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HAHA I assume your planning your team on FIFA?

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19 Sep 2012 16:13:47
die hard leeds fan here. been to every game this season home and away. i just wanna say what a poor performance last night from not just the players but also the referee and unfortunately the fans. think back to the wolves game, the atmosphere was electric and that really spurred the players on to a good passionate peformance which delivered a deserved 3 points. right from the off there was a negative mood, even the blaring of marching on together before kick off wasnt as loud as it has been previously. we need to get behind our players and show them the support like we do at our away matches not jeer at the players for the smallest mistake. i felt uncomfortable in the stands let alone playing on the pitch. and i i want bates out as much as any other leeds fan in the land but the anti-bates chants do not, i feel, help the players. we should be supporting and encouraging them not jeering and shouting abuse at their mistakes. lets get back to singing all our traditional songs and and supporting warnock and his troops, lets make teams feel intimidated when they come to elland road rather than make away teams feel like if they get a good start then we will be baying for our own players blood. so come on lets get behind the players on saturday and get elland road rockingonce again and inflict a first defeat of the season for forest.

Londonwhite

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Somebody with a bit of sense finally its a shame everyone els cant behave appropriatly!
KD

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The fans are protesting for the future of the club, all this get behind the lads crap is getting boring. The team probably want Bates out as much as the rest of us so we can get some decent players in.
You can sing as much as you want pal but we are going nowhere with this chairman and this team.

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And all this Bates out is already boring,do it outside before and after the match,once inside leave it out,doesnt help tje atmosphere or the players,itll happen when it happens,when it does Im sure youll find something else to whine about.

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Getting behind the lads is the most important, as without them we have no team. Anybody who does not get behind them is not a true white.

The club is a business as well, forget that side when the ref blows his whistle at the start and at the end of the game. I do not get to many matches living offshore, but we should be warnocks twelfth man, he keeps on telling us that.

Support Leeds, support our super whites, marching on together.

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Amazes me that so many Leeds fans seem deeply satisfied with Championship mediocrity.

Those that tolerate Bates or turn a blind eye, paying willingly for him to destroy the club, are the ones who aren't true fans. They dont want what's best for the club, but what's best for themselves, caring more about the atmosphere on a random Tuesday than the clubs long term interests.

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I think that you will find that without US there would be no team!

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All this crap about supporting team and shouting Bates out,the team should realise we do support them by turning up every week and paying their wages,it's about time everyone gets behind each other and sing to the rafters and get that old git out make it as uncomfortable as it can for Bates and his Missus,by the way i've been supporting Leeds since the Seventies and this lot what are in charge are the worst ever,at least Silver,Fogerby etc put their hands in their pocket to support the manager.

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I stand in the 'support he team and the manager' camp, this is my opinion and I appreciate & respect others will have different take on the situation !.
I will travel from Northumberland to watch and support my team 'super Leeds' against Forest on Saturday, & can't wait, really looking forward to it.
I, like MILLIONS of others around the world, am totally LUFC mental. If I was Bates (which am pleased am not!) I would be sitting laughing n chuckling away to myself. Not only am I winding up the supporters but they are arguing and disagreeing big style among themselves, the UNITED are united no more!. We have to stay together in supporting the team and NW, he is the right manager for us at this time. NW unites the dressing room, knows this league and what tactics, strategies, and types of player and how big a squad is required to get us promoted. Aye, there are something's he's done that have me baffled (signing Varney, cr4p player) is one example! But it's clear he's only able to work within his means and we know managers in past have not been supported in transfer market as they & we fans would want as indication of club chasing success.
If we don't show our support of team and manager on match day we have learned nothing from last season. Atmosphere we create in OUR ground makes all the difference, the team seemed to feel every sigh and negative reaction last season and players were almost 'frightened' to get involved during a game for fear of making a mistake.
I can't wait till Bates sells up, but I'm certain that will happen when it happens and there is not me or anyone else can do about that unless I or they have many millions or billions of pounds. I pray the takeover happens like yesterday, but I think we have to be seen as trying to intimidate opposition teams and fans when inside the football ground. Let's intimidate Bates outside it and on forums like this. Just my opinion is all, no offence intended to other parties (except Ken Bates)!
Let's be UNITED again - not divided !

Geordie Rude Kid, LUFC always MOT

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At the time of the wolves game we had recently signed some new players and it looked like bates was gonna finally be gone thats why the atmosphere was good then but now the takeover seems like a joke most of the better players are injured and bates isnt putting any funds up for cover players this is why the atmosphere is crap and will only get worse until bates leaves .BATES OUT !!!!!

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There will be a full house at Elland Raod when that Oxygen thief called Bates finally goes back to monaco...by the way, why is he there...to avoid paying tax, the dodgy b'stard. Get lost Bates we are sick of you

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Like you pal I too have been to every game and have seen the mood of great optimism down in Cornwall go to doom and gloom on a Tuesday night against Hull.
Fans are disappointed/furious with with the lack of interest from above and are finding Elland Road a depressing place these days.
Away days are about going to different places and having a good laugh while getting plenty of ale down your neck, it's a lot different mate!

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Original poster here......the thing that upsets me is that bates is driving the fans apart. why are we letting this man destroy and tarnish our fanbase. we should be uniting together not turning our back on the club. we can protest as much as we want boycott as much games as we want it will not hurry bates into selling, he will only do it when hes ready. we should be showing potential investors what a great fan base we have, imagine what they must think seeing elland road half empty the other night, baying for our own players bloood. we should be getting over 30,000 especially for a yorkshire derby. those that boycott the games are the ones that are not true fans. i could never turn my back on leeds united we should be uniting in times like these and not turning our backs on NW and his players. i feel we have a chance this season of play-offs as long as us, the fans, do not create a negative atmosphere within elland road like on tuesday, lets create atmospheres like wolves and blackburn and get behind the team, i know that i will be there on saturday singing my heart out and i hope the rest of you can be too.

Marching on Together
londonwhite

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Just been reading everyone's comments on here about crowds moaning noise levels dropping etc etc also read something on off site while Warnock was being interviewed he mentioned his frustrations about goals conceded and how it was Sunday league stuff etc etc ALSO THEN MADE A SIDE REFERENCE TO HEARING THE COMMENTS FROM THE CROWD AND HARM !!! If he hears it bet your life players do to ....so drop all the sighing and moaning let's get on the backs of team and push them forward against teams we play force them onto attack with our passion and noise we may not have the best squad best team(at mo) but we've got to keep them up near top half of table cause if take over does happen the team will need a chance when new faces come in ..... Let's blow the rafters like away games ....AND SING THEM WIN !! Wingy Mk Leeds for life MOT!!

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Despite the on off on off takeover, the constant bates out and everything else that makes being a leeds fan hard it was a Tuesday , not exactly rocket science why it was so subdued its a Tuesday. Leeds don't do Tuesdays.

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19 Sep 2012 15:53:55
Those few in the south stand last night need to grow up because shouting bates out for 90 mins isn't going to attract any investors or buyers. It looks like we will be stuck with bates if it continues like last night. Let's sing about the team and get behind them and NW not anti - bates protests

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Do you really think 15 people holding up sheets of A4 paper and a couple of signs are going to make any difference to a multimillion pound takeover bid. Really?

Also it was pretty tame last night compared to last year.

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Yes I agree with getting behind the team but I dont agree with your "growing up" comment. If people pay good money in to see a game they are entitled to voice their opinion. It is well known how frustrated the fans are, not just because KB is still in power, but because no one has a clue what is going on. It is the fans who pay for wages etc so I think they are entitled to be given a resonable update every few weeks, not ignored or called people because they voice their opinion.
AidanMOT

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I agree with original poster, yes fans should have a say but not in the 90 mins of a game, if you want a say then say it after the game, its that simple as the real fans go 2 support the team whilst 5% try ruin the game, leeds could b in league 2 and i n alot of others would still b there supporting them instead of moaning.

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No they wouldn't be still be supporting in League 2, how many there last night pal? Yea 19000 and falling. Real fans worry for the future of the club and try to make changes for the better.
Lemmings like you blindly let Bates kill the club.

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The protests at games can only have a negative effect on the players. The same goes for the idea of boycotting the games. Who's going to want to buy a club where the fan base sit at home on match day?

As for the '15 people holding up A4 size messages' not getting in the way of the takeover, maybe not but it wont persuade the stubborn old *insert expletive* to sell either so what's the point? The players (or what's left of them) need our UNITED support, keep protests for AFTER the game.

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I think the possible new owners want Bates out as much as the fans otherwise they would have walked.
The OP as been listening to the corrupt 1 too much.BATES OUT trevo

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I agree with the last post, sadly for us at the current time we have to think beyond just the next game and getting behind the team. I would rather protest and sacrifice a string of defeats if it meant Bates finally got the message and signed. That said I actually doubt that any of our protest are having any impact on Ken or the investors. As a previous post said, this is a multi-million pound business deal.

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It is not necessarily about growing up, it is about being clever enough to understand the overall situation at what is clearly a delicate time in the takeover.Shouting Bates out is wrong for a number of reasons
1.It does not help the team when they are losing the game.
2.It does not give the right impression to new investors, we were led to believe that potential investors were put off before by the demonstrations that occurred inside and outside the ground, so why risk doing it again when the deal appears close.
3.Bates was not even at the game anyway, and would not be concerned about a small minority shouting anyway.

Just concentrate on the team and not what is going on behind the scenes, the takeover I am sure will happen, dont spoil the chance to actually get this club moving forward at last which is what every fan wants.

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Who are you i take it you think that Bates is doing a good job then??

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Evening ken

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Loads of people will be very interested in buying leeds united if all fans boycotted all the home games as bates would be forced to sell for a lot cheaper or lose money each game . if fans boycott it will be better for the team than if they are stood in the stadium chanting bates out . so boycott and get the old guy out

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Myt aswell jsut start chanting "new owners out"!, cus by the sounds of it unless we spend millions of pounds and win everygame-get promoted some of these fans just wont be content lol

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Loads of ppl would still b supporting leeds if the were in league 2 as we as leeds fans dnt just change who we support so if thats what u mean when u say there wnt b many fans at leeds if we were in league 2 then take your rubbish support n go support a man city or someone as real fans stick with there team bad n good times. if u cnt do that then what kind of supporter are you, il tell u in 1 word....pathetic

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BATES OUT!!!

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19 Sep 2012 15:53:44
i was at the game last night,as i am at all of them and whoever you empty heads are in the south stand with the banners singing bates out!we were 3-1 down and you sung about are chairman!its about supporting the team...if you want to make a statement stay in your seats after the game..not in the 90 mins when we should be supporting our team!

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Was it your first game for a few years? People have been shouting that for the last 12 months and from all 4 corners of the stadium not just south.

Loads of our chants are far from inspirational for our players and based on hate rather than celebration. An example being....we hate Chelsea. Its hardly inspirational for the players hanging onto something so far in the past and having a Chelsea chairman and for a time manager and asst.

J

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Original poster half this team will be gone in 2 years and are only here for the money. Bates is killing our club and if the protesters are putting their money in they are entitled to voice their opinions.
The only empty heads are people like you who think they can turn an average team into title challengers by singing MOT.
Get real fella.

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First game...i travelled to blackpool,cardiff,petorbouroug and am going to bristool..supporting the team is what its about.

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I couldn't agree more to the last post. Firstly the players have a responsibility to perform (god their paid enough!). If they are really affected by a few chants then they can p*ss off and seek a new club. It is the fans willing to protest who have the clubs FUTURE at heart.

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Unless you pay for there tickets they can do what they want it is a free country

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19 Sep 2012 15:47:51
{Ed013's Note -Hi fellow Leeds Utd fans, I came across this link today http://www.justgiving.com/Noel-whelan for a 16 month old Baby suffering from Cancer. I don't like throwing charities in your faces, but this story really threw me back and for anyone with Children or anyone that is planning Children,I am sure you can feel a small part of what this family is going through. If anyone can give any donation at all then it will go towards saving this poor Child's life. Thanks very much - Editor 13}

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Hi, well said Ed, I am child free (not through choice) so I have no idea what those parents must be going through, they can have a fiver of mine anytime (had set it back for four beers, but what the hell). As an asides, Noel Whelan, met him once, a top bloke, so sad it did not work out for him, {Ed013's Note - Thanks mate, the family will be chuffed}

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19 Sep 2012 13:24:44
imagine a year from now in the prem lg leeds united.
barloteli rvp rooney etc. best stay where we are

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Imagine what bates will be thinking if we do go up.......parachute payments!!

Ali

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Obviously if we went up we would change most of the squad as bates would of sold up by then

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Will be lucky to stay where we are!

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By the time LUFC get to the premiership those players will be long retired!

AidanMOT

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Why are you bothered about the premier players.I'm looking at the league one players and starting to worry.

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In my opinion you can more or less right off any ideas we all have of making it back to the big time for at the very least 1/2 seasons unless we change bates for the most part and start then looking at the players we need to get us back to where we need to be,but as things stand this season we are mid table again at best due to a very shallow squad on small wages!!

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19 Sep 2012 11:40:06
Strong rumours on other sites that ken is in the city to sign today and announcement made today don't shoot messenger check for yourself
Mikeire

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Despite him saying its making slow progress in the programme notes all those what 17 or so hours ago? The people that come up with these rumours are just thick as pig sh!t

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Ken isn't in Leeds until the game on Saturday. Wasn't there last night. I know this because my girlfriend works for the catering company and in the chairmans suite. Told her to listen to everything said by master bates.

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When are programmes printed? I'm not saying original poster is right and based on rumours through the summer more than likley not. Just with Phil Hay tweeting last week potential movement this week and Bates saying it is progressing howuch more talking can they do?

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The programme is published days before match day, therefore programme notes will be written a least a week in advance, just added to last minute, I am of the understanding that developments have been happening this week so it may well be viable that this is happening! Although I wouldn't be certain! Fingers crossed though!!

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The notes from dearest Ken would have been put to print several days ago so things could well have change

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Its perfectly plausible that Ken is in Leeds today. Being at the ground last night I can understand why he wasn't there. Also being in Leeds doesn't mean having to be at ER.

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Bates flies in TODAY. This is for tax reasons and makes sense with the Forest and Everton games coming up.
All the takeover stuff is done by his lawyer so he won't have any involvement in this - yet.

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He's just said "progressing slowly"...so come on....It's not within sight....As much as we'd love to believe. Give us another story end of october (and i may believe it). this i just a fairy story

1968 supporter

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If he was in Leeds to sign the deal why wasn't he at ER last night

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19 Sep 2012 10:33:20
i think it's going to be a long hard season, we certainly are getting no luck at the moment and i certainly believe we are going to loose a lot of points until we get the likes of macca, green, norris back. we did we sign varney he is useless if i were in charge he wouldn't even get in the reserves. come on leeds forest saturday 3 big points!!! mot

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No luck, do you mean like getting a penalty from a foul outside the box. We are just a very average side at best.

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My only hopes are that warnock stays, bates goes and we dont get relegated, cannot see us even challenging for playoff place on last nights performance and our paper thin squad. if new owners come in tomorrow they will only be able to loan players no one else wants.by the time we can buy players (january 2013) we will be so far off the pace. sad to say I am already thinking about next season, dont even want to think about what everton will do to us?

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To many long hit and hope balls up to to bechio and nobody to play off him, giving the ball away. Varney is useless complete waste of time, i havent seen even seen him have an average game yet this season.

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Second poster don't forget there are a hell of a lot of quality champ level players still out there with no club yet, but likd u say need to get the takeover done first. Get 2/3 loans in 2/3 freebies and the team could look totally different but all hinges on when this takeover can get done.

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19 Sep 2012 10:28:11
We've gone 1-0 up against two top teams this season and ended up losing. Warnock's trying to play too defensive and get a 1-0 win, there's the problem.

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Unfortunately the problem isn't NW or the players its that muppet KB

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What with a 4-3-3 formation, have a word

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Problem is we can't keep a clean sheet still.....defence not solid enough for my liking...it's better but not right still think rb is a problem Peltier hasn't looked solid enough for me

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We are playing way too defensive ,graysons way was better than warnocks way at least we scored more goals .you cant say 4-3-3 is attacking formation when we are playing with every man back behind the ball . basically warnock got no balls for the game anymore . its also bates fault as he hasn't given him the funds needed exactly the same as when grayson was in charge . BATES OUT!!!!!!!

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Lol we are very good in defence n gk n st its the poor mid apart from austin that lets us down far 2 much the rest are all good. peltier is a gr8 rb n he actually has been one of our best if we had a bad defender it would have to b drury as hes far 2 slow but really we have a decent defence

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19 Sep 2012 10:00:27
Only 19,000 at ER last night for a derby game. It would appear that more and more fans are boycotting the games.

WibseyWhite

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Maybe that's why the team didn't perform to its best? Protests do nothing for the team and will not affect the chairman. Bet hull loved the protest and small crowd though?

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About time aswell . the only fans that should be at a game now really should be the away fans and fans with season tickets .anyone else is letting the rest of the fans down by paying money to bates

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Like the last post said its about time fans started voting with there feet lets see how long bates can keep going without no income coming in it has to be boycott all the way now until the chelsea has been removed leedsmad

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Be careful what you wish for. If takeover is in progress and finances nosedive bidders will pull out and wait for the fire sale. Everyone loses.

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Until bates as gone things will only get worse and i cant blame the fans bates is a person saturday will be around 21k attendance at best should be more like 27k that the bates affect

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Really glad people are standing up for what they believe in. This is the only way we can get things moving with a bit of pace. Why would Bates rush, when he's in a win win situation. Keep it up lads, i know it hurts, it's killing me but soon the camels back will brake.
BOYCOTT IS THE ONLY WAT FORWARD NOW!!
Also to the first replyer. Staying away until Bates has gone, has nothing to do with injurys, lack of funds and not a good enough squad. This season was doomed from the start. Once we knew Bates was selling players again and replacing them.The writting was on the wall.
BATES OUT FOR LIFE!!!
mot4life

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I'm going to the Forest game on saturday...I'll be there singing my heart out for the team willing us on to get 3 points. Regardless of the result I'll have a good time.

I won't be buying a programme, I won't be buying a burger and a pint in the ground and I won't be taking part in any protests.

Marching on together...

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Looks like im not the only wibseywhite! ;)

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I agree with first post. as much as i hate bates we have got to support our beloved club. if we boycott games like last night we are doing ourselves no favours we just make it easier for teams to come and play and also more uncomfortable for our own players. i travel 400 miles round trip to support leeds every home game and also go to every away game. boycotting will not change bates mind lets get into the stadium and show potential investors what great support we have by supporting the players and NW. i personally think that 40,000 singing bates out at the end of a game would send a better message than 19,000 causing a nervous atmosphere like last night or being at home hoping the takeover might go through. i see it like paying money to the taxman, i dont like doing it but nothings gonna change, thats why ive paid my money to bates for the season, i dont like it but i have to in order to support my team. i will be there saturday singing my heart out like always i just hope you guys can support the team too.

Marching on together
londonwhite

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If you go support the team but in truth times are hard for lots of families and watching mediocre football, at best, is not top of many peoples priorities right now. Add to that the antics of many footballers and associates on and off the pitch and professional football is no longer as attractive as other sports such as rugby league or the olympic sports like cycling. For example £5 for children to watch ALL the RL play off games and only £10 to watch our top cyclists in action at the velodrome. No comparison!

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Maybe a couple thousand fans (myself included) dont want to travel a few hours up the motorway on a tuesday night, arrive home at 2am.

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2 valid points but i am only talking about those fans boycotting the game coz of ken bates. and we all support our team in different ways, i quite happily travel up the A1 to support my team even if it does mean arriving home at 2am.

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Each to their own....attend or boycott....its a personal choice. Whichever side of the fence you are it does not give you the right to slag fellow fans off for taking the opposite view to your own. Me? Not a penny more until Bates is gone!!

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19 sep 2012 09:55:32
went last night,aidy white, i dont get it.we should have took the compensation of 1.5 million in the summer and sold him. he's a headless chicken with pace but no footballing brain. our left side with varney is div 2 standard.please only comment if you watch him week in week out like i have done for the past few years.

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I have been saying this for months. See my latest contribution in the banter section after last nights debacle. Fans were criticising the club for almost letting him go and praising him for staying. Maybe he stayed because other managers had more sense to take on a player who isn't good enough to play NOW. May have potential but it will be a while yet. He does not seem to have recovered from the mauling he got at Elland Road a few seasons ago against Arsenal. Lacks confidence and technical 'know how' at this level.

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Get a grip pal, "only comment if you go week in week out" it's because of people like you, we have no community in our wonderful club, now whether you go once a season or every game doesn't make you less of a fan! Grow up! I welcome comments from all kinds of Leeds fans to stop people like you seeing through your tunnels all the time! Who would we have replaced Aidy with? Another "target" that was made up on this site? Because in actually fact the only target we know for def that we missed out on was maynard, again, get a grip of real life and understand people support Leeds with their life but cannot afford to travel miles to every game! Each to their own! I stand for many on this site to say we need rid of people like you from our club community!

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Yes White hasn't had the best start to the season, but saying we should have sold him is a bit harsh. I don't think you can say many of the players have had a good start. Only a handfull have.
You have to look at the bigger picture from White's perfomance last night. He was playing behind Varney, who had a shocker again and they didn't really gel together. They need to work as a partnership.
Warnock needs new players to thicken up the squad and I don't see this happening.
All we can hope for is if players like White who have the potential to pick up their game.
Davs

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IMO when drury is fit he should be ahead of white on the team sheet,then if we need more ambition going forward we could use White as an impact sub when chasing a game.
MOT

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White is still very young remember, and he's best suited on the wing in my opinion. Unfortunately with injuries we don't have the luxury of having Drury at full back and White attacking the flank. I can guarantee that White on the wing would of caused problems last night. Varney is well below par, but i would in no way sell a young natural talent like that. Lennon had issues crossing the ball when he played for us, as did Milner. If we can get him some time on the wing he'll learn his trade and become a real asset, you can teach a player to cross a ball, you can't teach a player natural frightening pace which will cause full backs hell

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Jbaz9 origial poster here. community club what relevance is that. what are you talking about . i pay my money am i not entitled to my opinion. i love leeds, but the facts are white is not good enough to hold down a first team place. jbaz9 if you need directions to elland road check the website.

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I totally agree with the poster. When there were rumours he was leaving in the summer I was not bothered in the slightest. I don't see what he does in games. He doesn't anything at all in fact. he's got pace to burn but never ever uses it to hurt opposition at all. All he does is run 5 yards and knocks a 5 yard pass off or falls over. He doesn't do a thing. The sooner Drury is fit the better!

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My God! White is utter rubbishe! Full stop! What does that lad do? Somebody explain.

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I agree with the poster both Varney and White were the worst players last night and were fairly typical performances by both. What I cant understand is why both these guys were signed on contract and added to the wage bill when we are trying to get rid of deadwood. Seriously, were Nunez, Rogers and Pugh that bad that these guys are ditched in favour of these two!

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Despite what anyone says white is not a lb and never wil be...with drury out injured he was played out of position

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It sound slike you are trying to find a scapegoat for the performances and White is your target. The real fact is the team bar a few players weren't good enought last nigth, not just White. I was happy we signed him up to a contract and I am still looking to see how he progresses this season. I agree he needs to improve and beleive he just needs to gain confidence to start taking players on.
I've gone and will be going to every home game but everyone is entitled to their opinon even if you don't go to the matches.
Davs

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Varney will always b better than league 2 standard n white is a gr8 player so obviously u just like 2 b negative. pointless

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White is useless

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All our problems are in midfield but to blame white n varney is abit pathetic, neil warnock is a manager and you are not so why make a fool of yourself by slagging warnocks team selection of when its quite obvious warnock knows more about management, white is a good player n so is varney, open your eyes n your see no one at leeds have been gr8 apart from austin n becchio n pearce. peltier spends all the time attacking n not defending but no one says a thing about him plus he had a late chance to score v cardiff n a late chance v hull n missed both when he should have been defending so if anyone is a bad player im afraid its peltier as for some reason he seems to want to score more than defend.

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To be fair everyone was in panic mode because Mccormack was injured. On last nights showing its Drury i want back asap because Aidy White is awful and whos the other option? Danny Pugh? although on that showing last night i would seriously be considering him until Drury is back...

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Peltier doesnt spend all his time attacking he doesnt attack enough as a full back you person if you went to the occasional game you could comment on our team but you clearly do not Varney has been shocking all game although i do think he is a good player he looks like those players that come to ER and cant cope with it. Whereas White is never a winger in a million years he has no end product whatsoever and at LB this season he has been the worst player on the pitch against Hull and Wolves playing there. So explained to me what he is good at except running? If you can name one thing that he has except pace i will apologise. But he is awful in the air has bad control cant beat a man unless he has room to run past him cant cross a ball and cant score in a brothel (when it comes to this level anyway.)

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You are obviously not a leeds fan m8, white has alot more than pace, u really think derby wanted him just cus hes fast? no dnt b silly, yes the main thing with him is his pace but hes also a good passer n a good crosser n hes a team player n that is one thing leeds dnt have many of as most of our players want to score themselves instead of doing there job n passing. no one in our team offers a gr8 deal apart from austin n becchio n pearce the rest are very unpredictable, one week they look good the next they look poor in particular, drury, peltier, diouf, varney, white, brown n kenny, they have all been good n also all been bad so its pointless to say white n varney as they both have also had good games, plus white is still young so he will only get better.

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19 Sep 2012 09:41:36
Im sorry guys...6 games in and NW is NOT the saviour! An awful start to the season losing to our 'promotion rivals' but we are not rivals anyway now. We have been battered across the park against Blackpool, Cardiff, Hull and only won against a pointless Peterboro who are losing every game! This is as bad is it gets guys, defence poor, attack poor, I wasn't even a SG fan but he sure of hell was doing a better job than NW. FACT stats and results don't lie. NW has had the poorest start for long time. Im not turning on the manager yet but things just cannot go on like this....he's had 11-12 signings and im sorry some are unbelievably bad. His best move all summer was changing his mind about McCormack. We are in serious trouble guys and it doesn't look like changing, a bottom half team at very best maybe even bottom 4 0r 5 if we carry on playing like this.

We just cannot live with the better teams in this league and its so depressing. They have built their squads properly and assembled teams capable of good attacking solid football. We are miles behind the top 6 or 7 teams in terms of depth and technical play. The Championship is a serious competition these days full of ex prem managers and ex prem players. We are way off the mark with our signings and squad...1-2 mill spent is just not good enough when uve sold Snodgrass, Howson, Gradel and not replaced them. Im fuming with the whole set up and joke of team we put out.

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Are you kidding, Warnock is by far the best manager that we could hope for. 5 teams we have played are probably going
to be in the top 6, we have no depth, no funds, if he walks god help us.

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I hope takeover goes through and we bring back grayson

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I fully agree with your comments, a good manager would walk away now, its not working, bottom half of the table if where lucky!

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Bring back larry are you for real dont you remember any of the shocking defeats we suffered under him he was clueless and still is now the big problem is bates its impossible for any manager to work under him we need rid of him and until we do we are going no where get ready for another mediocre season time to vote with your feet that is the only way that we are going to get are club back leedsmad!

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I love the comment "the joke of a team we put out" - who do you suggest we play with so many injuries and a lack of depth in the squad because Master Bates wont spend - Warnock is the best we could have right now - it is frustrating but lets look at the bigger picture and not just blame the manager we need more players and that isnt Warnocks fault

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Sorry pal have to disagree with you there.

NW is the man to help us get out of this bl33ding mess, no transfer funds, all the "good" loan players already gone, injuries NOT his fault what else would YOU like the guy to do? QUIT!

Oh and we actually beat Wolves on the opening agme of the season (think you might have missed that one)

This is going to be one tight season, with several clubs (possibly LUFC) fighting for promotion. We will NOT be relegated; christ we've only played 6 games, get a grip!

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It does not take much to get people moaning does it? How many new players are we fielding this season? how many have played together? give them chance to mould together. We have bought some good players (admittedly we have also bought or kept some crap), just be patient - Rome wasn't built in a day. MOT

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We had snodgrass howson gradel johnson and a whole host of other so called big players, yet we didnt get out of the championship, and we are doing no different without them.

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If you think about it the sad fact is that warnock has arguably had more backing from bates than grayson did and yet last season we finished lower in the league than we ever did under grayson and when he left we were 6th or 7th in the league.we have also had poorer start this season than we ever did under grayson and what is varney rubble all about.

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Can you buy a 4 bed detached with double garage for £60k? Of course not, you get a back to back in Beeston - this is what NW is working with, trying to scrape underneath the barrel, never mind the bottom to try and unearth some gems. Get real guys, we need money to build a proper team.

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We could not have had a tougher start to the season, especially when trying to gel a new team. The fixtures are all tough ones, we've picked up injuries, We've not had a chance for the players to get used to each other and put any kind of run together.

When we get out of September, and play some of the lesser teams, we'll get a better idea of what we're capable of, but losing to blackburn and blackpool is nothing to be ashamed of, and Hull have had a great start to the season. All are established sides with more recent Premiership status than us, you have to expect it to be tough.

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You get that many players in, on that budget Bates gave him. Bates is the problem not Warnock. He's had next to nothing to play with, while loosing are best player in the process.
BOYCOTT!!BATES OUT!!
mot4life

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For starters we also beat Wolves as well as Peteborough, but you probably wont have heard that from your armchair (i am presuming you dont go to any games mate) Neil Warnock has been the best manager we have had for a very long time, and the calls for 'Warnock out' are just ridiculous. Warnock keeps the fans involved and informed, he tells it how it is, i for one would not have Grayson back (as much as we loved him he doesnt have the same reputation that Neil has, reputation alone can secure players, just look at Diouf) Warnock had the chance to leave Leeds United and really leave us in the sh!t but he stuck with us and that says something about the club as a whole and the fans. If his hands are tied financially then what more can he do?! i for one think we should keep the faith, its no use boycotting the games to get back at Bates because it has a knock on affect on the team which we dont want! i pray to god this takeover goes through and we can rid ourselves once and for all of Ken Bates! MOT

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So having limited budget and restructuring is NW fault ? He's jugglings as best as he can given the tight limitations and transfer kitty. If I gave you £10 for a family meal I can assure you your choice wouldnt end up presenting a 3 course dinner. More likely a KFC bargain bucket. Reality check guys...where do u think all of this money comes from and how much is being dealt out ? Stop gettin on the guys back

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I'm not sure how you can compare NW and SG they had totally different squads and funding.

Things went wrong for SG when funding dried up and it has continued and worsened under Warnock.

NW has some good players in that team but padded out with free or cheap rubbish because he doesnt have the funds to do more. Do you think this is his ideal squad? Do you think if given the Man City job he would play Varney, White and Tonge? Take a chill pill and hope Ken sells and gives somebody the chance to give NW a chance.

J

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Absolute bs, beat wolves, unlucky not to beat blackburn and not many will win at cardiff this season, all this with a skeleton squad, beat forest sat and top 6 again,stop ur whinging and start supporting

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Varney was the only poor signing, wouldn't criticize the best manager in the business, if we had the backing that he needed, im sure he would get us up, to be honest i believe hes done well to sign some of the players he has, SG was useless, had some brilliant attacking players and couldn't get us up because he bought about 10 useless centre backs and full backs, SG was useless in the market, Snodgrass wasnt his signing, howson came through the acadamy, gradel was but he was awesome whilst we had him on loan, but of a no brainer, blame bates, not NW

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Living on borrowed time. As far as I am concerned wish he had walked out before the season had started. We are going no hwerre under him.

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19 Sep 2012 08:31:41
Neil Danns in Leicester squad for tonight's game.... Another loan target we couldn't land!
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Ok that makes sense, we couldn't loan Danns because Leicester decided they still need him and somehow that's KB's fault. I know the mans a complete C-Unit but blaming him for another club not wanting to let a player go is stretching things somewhat!

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Also Leicester position in the table now better than Leeds. Hudders too, Grayson and Clayton maybe laughing at us

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19 Sep 2012 08:23:37
If the contracts are with lawyers it means the deal has been agreed all that needs reviewing is the final wording of the contracts. Don't get excited lawyers can spread this out for ages and past experience tells me they can be very very fussy about wording.
JD

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