Leeds Rumours Archive January 22 2012

 

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22 Jan 2012 23:39:12
swarcliffes lee duckworth set to make a sensational switch from 5 a side to strenthen midfeild !

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22 Jan 2012 23:21:23
Ed do you know if there are any takeover talks at ER? {Ed013's Note - Apparently there is interest, but KB is very hard to deal with and in my eyes he wont sell until we get promoted. He may be waiting a long time.}

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Cheers ed i think we were all hoping for a different answer

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I posted this on the banter site:
I think the vast majority of Leeds fans want Bates out of the club so what are the chances of any person or group coming in. As I understand it we do not own either Elland Road or Thorpe Arch and the current squad is not worth much in transfer fees. So what would any potential buyer be paying for? I am afraid that Bates is here for the forseeable future.
So I dont think anyone will buy LUFC as the club now stands they would only be buying the name and image rights, I do wonder though how the ground investment by KB affects the councils ownership of the ground. I would not be suprised if that sly man has pulled a fast one to tie him, as club major shreholder to future ground ownership.

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I thought we bought back thorpe arch a couple years ago?

Could be wrong though.

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We never, Bad Santa promised that the Delph money would pay for Thorpe Arch but decided instead to improve a stadium we don't own for him and his rich friends to enjoy a better matchday experience

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I wish Leeds fans could get it through their collective thick heads. The Council don't own the ground! And Leeds united don't own Thorpe Arch either. they are owned by offshore holding companies in the Caymans etc Bates is almost certainly involved somewhere along the line. At the RMC Conference I had brief conversation with Shaun Harvey and he agreed that Mr Bates wants promotion to the Prem as this is the best platform from which he can sell the club. So Bates will be going nowhere soon!

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I know the council don't own the stadium, otherwise they wouldn't have offered to loan Leeds United the money to buy the ground.
Ken Bates probably is involved with the comapnies that own the stadium and thorpe arch but that doesn't mean Leeds United own them.

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If Bates doesn't ownthe ground, then the Delph money can't be whats paying for the exec boxes.

I reckon that hes borrowing it from the guy who owns the ground and is paying it back through the rent.

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Teak Trading Co own the freehold to elland road they acquired it in 2007 and where investigated by customs when it was done

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22 Jan 2012 22:56:38
LEEDS UNITED have moved to hi-jack Rangers bid to land Enar Jaager – as Dutch midfielder Luigi Bruins jets in to try and win a deal at Ibrox.

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22 Jan 2012 16:08:32
in newspaper today,leeds are looking at steve bruce as a replacment for grayson! WTF?? lets just hope simon turns it around in the next week or so,with 2 good signings and the team start gelling as 1

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This story is doing the rounds in most Sunday tabloids -

I for one wouldn't want Steve Bruce

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That's strange I've not seen any mention of it on newsnow!

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Don't want Bruce, did nothing at Sunderland with backing from board.
Don't want warnock either.
In Grayson I trust.
Back the manager. Mot

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Warnock will take over,when his compo is sorted out at QPR

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Why the hell would we want a ex scum player as a manager. is this guy for real. go give your head a shake !!!!!

KEN BATES OUT IS WHAT WE WANT. !!!!!!

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Grayson in Bates out!!!! MOT

8 mil delph
1 mil kasper
1.5 gradel
big wages for them that we dont have to pay and beckfords wages
mow howson gone for 2 mil

we have spent around 2 million. there is at least 12 million in money that could have gone on players. And with all that Grayson has got us promoted, got us 2 points off the playoffs in our first season in the championship and now we are 1 point off playoffs. I really do not get how people can say Grayson isn't good enough. Are we really the sort of fans that want Grayson sacked because we've lost a few games over Christmas and bates wont offer anyone half decent wages so our better players want to leave, that's not his fault!! Its pathetic. Grayson is 1000% the man to take us forward. Now we should get behind the team during the game and only preotest out of the game. {Ed020's Note - goes without saying, we should always get behind the time, like we use too!!!}

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SG is the only manager who could have achieved what he has with the limited funds he has been give. And while I dislike Bates with a vengeance, you can't knock the fact that he has run a sound business. As for Warnock and Bruce - rubbish, we woulkd never pay what they expect. Trust in SG, playoffs this season, and let's see where it takes us.

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We got behind the team more than now when we were getting beat on a mid week match by league 1 sides, now we are doing very well and there is a better atmosphere in my local library

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The lack of atmosphere is down to 3 reasons:

1. The stay away fans (3500) on last season.

2. Away fans being moved.

3. The awful long ball, hit and hope tactics that are being served up at ER.

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Not that I think Grayson is on his way out, but what Bruce did for Sunderland was huge, He's a good manager. The team that O'Neil is currently managing is entirely down to him. Things weren't working and it was time to move for someone new (a bit like us now?!) But I'd have him, even with his scummy past.

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22 Jan 2012 14:57:13
The rumours about Ben parker are correct,because after his outburst he stuck around to mingle with the crowd,my m8 was stood near the bar and managed to overhear him speaking to friends his m8 said what have you done and ben replied "i couldn't stand by and let them lay all the blame on johnnys doorstep these people have a right to know what's happening" also said he knows he had prob played last game for club.when my m8 asked him in passing if anyone else was leaving his reply was what do you think this is true,I tend to believe ben not one of bates puppets lorimer you should be ashamed with yourself.

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Lorimer's face told it all ! V uneasy and was twitching when Parker spoke, Bates just using club to milk as much money out of it as possible, Howson not 1st forced out Kasper said same last year too. Leeds should never be a feeder club to likes of Norwich, Wigan , Bolton etc as they will never be as big in a million years. Problem is he knows that we will turn out week after week lining his pockets, fans need to vote with their wallets as this is all he undrrstands & Lorimer should be ashamed cowtailing to the slimeball, but then some people just see a free lunch and he obviuosly falls into that catergory

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Just a question if no one is willing or has e en shown proper interest to buy the club how the he'll can we get rid of him. As much as I like Larry and I do the body language of the players yesterday spoke volumes. Mind you if any of us were a player at the moment I think we'd all s**t ourselves ........ So if neither Larry or Pappa smurf are going anywhere what can any of us do?

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Ben is Jonny's best mate. of course he would stick up for him.

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Lorimer is another yes man for bates now happy to take his nice wage packet. Damn right he should be ashamed.

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Lorimer, what a joke, failed landlord living on past glories... get yourself off son with your puppet master Mr Bates

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Whatever tales people make up about comments in bars, the basic fact is that Howson has had a year to sign a new contract but has failed to do so.if he wanted to play for the club he would have found a way to do so. We get up to 2 million for an average player. Parker is not good enough to play for Leeds anyhow, and is going on loan.

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Snodgrass won't go anywhere. If he goes, Grayson will go. Bates won't find another yes man like Grayson. Hell soon sell up then

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I know the Parker family and I think Ben has had enough. He's going on loan to Carlisle tomorrow and that will probbaly be him finished at Leeds. What he said yesterday was from the heart and whether he deserves a shirt or not he is a Leeds fan and Jonny is his best mate, but two Leeds through and through lads have had enough.

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Does everyone on this site have no financial sense? Ok I don't like bates and Grayson needs a kick up the a**e but getting 2 million for a player who won't sign a new contract and can leave for free in 6 months. Howson won't win us promotion and so many people on here slating him all season so what's the problem? Everyone too eager to get on the bandwagon, like sheep!!

Have your own opinions!

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Want strong players not fans playing for this PROFESSIONAL team
Parker knows his number is up - good luck to the lad - I like an honest lad - but i hear the sound of a grinding axe - Johnny could have signed - but he didn't - he's better off by about 20k a week so - stop hand ringing boys - grow up - both JH and BP are not what we need now - funds for new blood is required - bring it on - MOT

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If being a Leeds fan makes you good enough to play for Leeds then sign me up!

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But you all defend Grayson to manage our club as a fan...! so what's your point -

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Ed,geart site question? are leeds fans the most negetive in england as a leeds fan i have come to expect anything that comes out of elland rd do u think fans are over expectant of the current team and managment given the financial restrictions on them caused by the mistakes of the past personally i feel sorry for grayson he has been kicked by every one frm bates to the fans and his personal life has been affected by the pressures of trying to keep everyone happy even though we were poor yesterday we won regardless of the circumstances there is character in this team grayson and snodin have instilled that at least im not a fan of bates by the way i do hope things change for the better i hope the fans get behind grayson and the lads they werent the cause of the financial situation {Ed013's Note - There is definitely a lot of negativity but that comes with the size of the club. Believe me when I say it, there are a lot more fans out there moaning about a lot lesser things!}

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You so called Leeds fans, learn so respect or clear out of our club! {Ed013's Note - Whatever has been said with Ben Parker lets not forget Leeds has stuck by him through his injury nightmare}

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Yes, I think Ben Parker is biting the hands that have looked after him. Howson's wife has just had a baby and he will not want to be renting a property in Norwich, particularly in view of the fact he is injured. Well tough, he should have signed the contract that was offered.

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Can anyone tell me what he's supposed to have said,ive been away to come back to howson going and parker having said somthing but i cant find on the net anywhere, please fill me in! thanks jem

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These comments are all well & good but nobody really knows what has been said and what the real motives are. How do we know Howson has gone for 2m? Even Grayson suggested it was less than that and although people say Howson has had a year to sign a deal, which may be true how do we know what was offered. There is a very good letter from a season ticket holder regarding the club that people should and another on the scraching shed about how the 11.5 we have spent this year really breaks down and how it compares to those clubs around us. So if Howson goes then he goes and hopefully we will be competing for promotion with whoever we bring in and all will be good until we look at the squad to stay in Premiership! MOT

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Its rumoured by some Leeds fans (kids or ones with short memories) that Howson and Parker are greater than Lorimer. One person even called him a failed landlord.

I blame the parents (probably Man Utd fans)

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When Beckford was in the same situation, Grayson refused to sell him and instead chose to let his contract run out because he believed that we needed him for our promtoion. He was right, as proved by every single goal Beckford scored from Jan til May - especially against Bristol.

Grayson clearly doesn't see that Howson adds the same value to the team and has instead chosen to take the money. Whether he's right or not remains to be seen, but at least until the end of the season, let's give him support and see what he can do.

If he's right, noone will be complaining in 5 months time. If he's wrong, then maybe he'll be sacked, or whatever. Ultimately, we can't make Howson stay, so in my mind, always take the money.

Only time will tell whether its a good move and until that last day of the season, we canonly speculate as to what its effects and consequences will be.

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22 Jan 2012 13:11:28
Leeds should sign ryan bennett from peterborough, McGugan from forest, Sharp from Donny, Lichaj on loan from villa. A new centre mid, experienced in this division or top 3 teams in league one. That team would ensure a play off position.

Lonergan
Lichaj Bennett Lees White
Clayton Delph
Snodgrass Townsend/Rodgers
McGugan/McCormack
Sharp
Subs Taylor, O'Dea, Becchio, Nunez, New experienced centre midfielder (not ancient like brown)

McCormack next to Sharp and McGugan in behind if he was playing. I just think or loyal fans deserve our club to splash the cash a bit.

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Why does everyone fool themselves we will make ANY signings let alone a long list.

Get real guys, because of Bates we are now a selling Club, as hard as that may be to accept its a fact {Ed020's Note - thats not very optimistic is it. keep the faith!!}

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?? that team looks more like relagation fodder mate, exactly what we dont need, where is the experience and quality in that side bar snoddy?????

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Lichaj was brilliant on loan last season. Bennett is an England U21 player is solid but is let down by the defence around him. Lees has been very solid this season. White is rapid and has been great this season. Clayton has been a revelation and his passing is unbelievable. Delph will grow in fitness and confidence in to the player we know as his loan spell carries on. Townsend has done really well at the other clubs he has been on loan at and has shown glimpses of his pace and skill. McCormack is still the third top scorer in the league and is still scoring. Sharp is a born finisher. McGugan has been one of the best players in our league for the past two seasons. That would rival to be the best team in the league easily. Can no one see that as soon as we started calling for bates's head, our form has dropped, can no one see we need to get behind the team. We will only get probably one more loan, and a centre back on a free though. Grayson in Bates out. Seriously do not get why no one has bought Leeds. we have a huge fan base of extremely loyal fans, it is in one of the biggest cities in England. Brilliant Stadium, Brilliant facilities. Great history. Huge potential. Good base of players to build on. Someone save us!!!

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I am 100 per cent sure that none of these players will be arriving. if the best bates has offered us so far is loans and free agents such as paul rachubka and michael brown then players that could easily be in the premier league will not be coming here.

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22 Jan 2012 12:55:18
Good news maybe for everyone wanting rid of bates. The rumour is wealthy Americans on the horizon taking a serious look at Lufc. Hope there is some mileage in this. About time. Anyone else heard about this ? {Ed020's Note - where have you heard this from? anything i've heard has been the opposite side of the world in aussie!!}

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And that,s where they will stay mate on the horizon

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Nobody from America looking at Leeds there is an australasian consortium looking,but this is a long way of and they have shown no real proof of funds

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This could be the reason bates is stalling on buying players?

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If that was the case wouldn't this be splashed all over the press like it usually is when a potential new owner is eyeing up a club. Were stuck with him mate.

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Coch industries, worth billions, seriously looking at Lufc

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The Koch family who own Koch industries are worth around 50 billion. If this guy is serious which i doubt would make us the richest club on earth above QPR then man city.

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If bates brought better quality players in then surely we would look a more attractive proposal than with our wafer thin 'team' (in the loosest sense of the word) full of unproven kids and past it prem castoffs oh yeah and half a 'team' on loan!

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As much as we all want Bates out and the club sorting from top to bottom, realistically it wont happen. No-one in their right minds will deal with Bates, he is a truly horrible man. We are stuck with him for the foreseeable future.

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I heard that there was a guy in Australia looking at Leeds, but that was over a year ago, so that looks like its going nowhere. I haven't heard anything about anyone interested in buying Leeds since.

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22 Jan 2012 09:45:38
sources from middlesborough say leeds are intersted in signingloan scottish centre back stephen mc manus the ex celtic player is also keen to link up with darren o dea, mc manus has not been starting as much as he wants to at the riverside and personnally i think this would be a great capture for leeds hes not just got international caps he also has champ league experience. if this is true then hope bates acts quickly

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Hope so, no nonsense centre half with experience, something we've been lacking since paddys injury first time round.

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22 Jan 2012 01:56:21
The Snoddy contract impasse rumours are true I think. Duncan Castles and Andrew Haigh both tweeting that Snodgrass unhappy with A) Howson and potential other sales B) The contract offer made to him C) Not getting the captaincy.

Apparently Castles knows the Agent. He seems well connected. Our star player now unhappy. It certainly seems like an unhappy camp. We dont seem to be able to make an acceptable contract offer to ANY players. Just lose them all. Sad times.

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We only have 1 player that hasnt got an 18 month or more contract,and it aint snoody.im on t**tter and i can say im unhappy.

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Www.thenational.ae/sport/football/robert-snodgrass-ends-contract-negotiations-with-leeds

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Why would snoddy be leaving when the other day after howson had gone he said im not going nowhere and i want to get leeds promoted!

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Ben parker said snoddy was desperate to sign a new contract on saturday as was aidy white. if he was unhappy why would he be that desperate to sign a new contract?

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Grayson said that Leeds haven't even entered contract discussions with Snodgrass since the summer, so how could they have broken down?

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22 Jan 2012 01:40:27
My top, top sources are reporting that Michael Duberry could be set for a sensational return to the club to add experience at centre back. It is reported that he will cost 50k and will be offered a player coach role in order to offer experience, train the defence and marshall them on the pitch. He also scored a hatrick today. Could be good. {Ed020's Note - 2 own goals and 1 regular goal = bad hat-trick!! at 36, i highly doubt a return, he's not a step forward, he's 4 steps back.}

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4 steps?... think you are being very generous there ed? {Ed013's Note - I would never want him back in a Leeds shirt}

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I was going to say that the only thing Dubs could teach is how to concede penalties- and then I saw that he had added scoring own goals to his skill set.

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22 Jan 2012 00:04:29
What happened about the kirk brdfoooat rumour?

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Broadfoot is shocking footballer connolly twice the player at right back

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I've talked to rangers fans and they hope he goes to us i've also talked to Celtic fans and they hope he stays at Rangers. Need I say more.

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No CLUBFOOT we want to get better not worse rangers fans hate him Celtic fans love him enough said!

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