Leeds Rumours Archive July 25 2011

 

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25 Jul 2011 21:25:44
Can't get my head around paying two hundred grand for keeper on revinue we make thirty years ago we paid nine hundred grand for peter barns when season tickets were less than ninty quid {Ed045's Note - so you'd prefer to spend 10mil on a keeper to then pay 100k a week and get into debt like before.. no thanks, 200k for a proven championship keeper will do nicely for me thanks!

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Will never spend 10 million under bates but there are some decent players out there for much less

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What's the obsession with spending Brass. Leeds is a Yorkshire club remember, we tried spending big money it only brought short term success but long term pain. In the Championship it's about blood and sweat and fighting. To be a good fighter you need to be hungary. Overpaid fancy dans don't win leagues.

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Spot on Ed, i can't believe the short memories some people have. We MAY have money but it's being invested wisely, we're building slowly and we will get back to the glory days. Debt is NOT good And all the moaning about money being spent on the East Stand - good, i'm glad they are - better facilities equals more long-term revenue. We've done the spending lots of money to get instant glory lark - it was nice, but it became painful and i don't want that again.

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You need to be from Hungary to do well in the championship, i knew we where missing something ;)

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Why do you think Bodor is on trial? He's the missing link ;) {Ed045's Note - Made my morning haha..

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A proven crap keeper you mean ed-we're more of a laughing stock than newcastle {Ed045's Note - How is he a crap keeper?

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25 Jul 2011 21:16:11
ed, do happen to know what happened with the elliot kebbie deal because im very interested to find out what the compenation is likely to be {Ed045's Note - I would suggest it was a undisclosed compensation packet, probably resulting into sell on percentages, 2nd team loanees or what not, it will be a decent sum for a young promising lad.

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Well when man u tried to get him other yeah they Offerd 1million compo. So hope barca pay more.

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25 Jul 2011 21:07:47
Second rate keeper stockdale class he chose us whose the big club now

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Stockdale had no choice you silly man He always said Leeds were his first choice but we didn't want a recall clause fulham did.

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Use your own clubs page for entertainment, tosser

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Let's see how long he's there before Fulham call him back.

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Sorry when was the last time you won the league? Seem your team in play champions league football. Oh sorry where did you finish last season knob head go back too sleep it's been so long the manger they got u there had passed away now f*** off to your own site

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Big club you pillock you wont say that when they ask for him back with 24hrs notice you might win the johnstone paints trophy if its a good year

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Am sure stockdale will get loads of good practise behind your defense

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Just have a look in your history book- see who the biggest club to turn up at your TOWN- ie drew in the biggest crowd ever
Also check out your average gate Wow

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Can't be much happening in carrot town today.
Back to your own site turnip boy haha.

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25 Jul 2011 20:38:01
Whose modelling Leeds unite away kit

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Paddy kisnorbo and Michael brown.

You follow Leeds much? Haha

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25 Jul 2011 19:18:41
who else have we got on our radar any realistic shouts?

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25 Jul 2011 19:49:44
People are raving about Lonergan being a top keeper.
Maybe so, but
he conceded 9 more goals than Kasper did
Its all down to the defenders infront of him, Grayson has not addressed our poor defenders
Yes we have Paddy back, but is he going to be injury free all season ?, i hope so, because Grayson must think we have a good defence or he would have bought more defenders in

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You have to appreciate that defending helps with communication from the keeper too...

I am glad we got Lonergan..

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Blah blah blah.... Give your head a shake will you... 'He conceded more goals' SO WHAT ..... We need a LB that is all... You have to appreciate that we are playing different defenders in pre season and I reckon Obrien and Paddy will be solid.. Personally I would give Aidy a go... Failing that Dickinson from Stoke for LB

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No fella, it is also about communication and understanding between keeper and back 4 and especially centre backs - this was his and our big weak point - and caused a lot of errors and jittery defending from bruce - kasper was vocal but not in control - with the shouts sign of inexperience i guess and will improve - good luck to Kasper and welcome a more mature and calm keeper Lonners - Bruce will be relieved

am i right or wrong ?

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Yeah so he conceded 9 more but look at the league positions Relegated and 7th and ask the same thing 9 more than 7th that's pretty good going in my eyes

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We Concederd all the goals as the defence was poor but also kasper was too big headerd the team would not comunicate with him.

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Personally i think aidy would be to attacking for LB as we seen with mcartney didn't work with all out attacking minded players upto promising winger though LUFC

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25 Jul 2011 19:42:46
Where's the guy so adamant that stockdale had signed but I couldn't compromise his source? You said you hoped we apologised when you were proved right well you were proved wrong where's your apology?

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Ha ha yea, where is he now Idiot, child plating games obviously

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Yes... good point m8 come clean you lying tw"t

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He hasnt done one because he was talking s**te and now feels very silly......

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Yeah thats right the guy was a con; likely worked for a bookie - trying to get bets down on stockdale and up on stocky - for his own or their agenda - what a tool - and not a leeds fan - show your self if you have balls

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Think this goes to prove that even the most OH MY GOD NAILED ON rumours, are more or less bullsh*t

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25 Jul 2011 19:39:09
a standard league one keeper? great....relegation here we come

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He's been in the championship most of his career and the last few seasons. he got player of the year at pne in 08/09 and 09/10, look into stuff before you say anything.

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Be quiet you person He's not a standard league 1 keeper at all As for relagation call yourself a fan? We don't need "fans" like you at our club. If we signed messi you would still find a reason to complain.

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Shut up you p***k, we have let kasper go and he conceded 9 goals less than Andy. We finished 7th and they were relegated. Are on something mate the year before he was there player of the season and they got to semi finals in the playoffs. West Brom, Everton were in for him behave kasper was where again oh that's right Notts Co.

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We've signed two division 3 keepers not one. team is worse than last year. well be bottom 6. home and away through thick and thin. ill match my record against yours son

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Idiot.... Go post on Man Utd board if you have finished your homework..

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Homework? I manage more staff than grayson and am more successful. No Leeds fan calls that team that-they are simply Scum. now run along before the bad man loses his temper

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Give him (and Rachubka) a chance for gods sake

Were all Leeds arn't we?

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25 Jul 2011 18:57:33
Well done Grayson We have a number 1 at last. I think if he can make 2 more quality signings in the next week or so, our faith will be restored. Lonergan is a solid keeper, and I personally think his experience in this league is second to none ( better than Kaspers) and the fact that Premier League clubs were after him speaks volumes Keys follow this up with another 2 quality players Leeds MOT

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A number 1 eh? i personally would call him a number 2.

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He's certainly experienced at picking the ball out the net. not good enough-typical grayson. bates and his puppet out

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Will be interesting to see how many clean sheets we keep this season. My prediction- 0.

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I agree, hopefully he will get a quality CB and CM. It would be fantastic if a forward joined from Prem even if on loan

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Really really good pun, proper cheered me up. Not convinced this guy is an improvement and defence definitely not good enough but definitely thats best quip i've seen all pre season.

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We have some really fickle fans, see how the lad plays in a Leeds shirt before you judge him

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So just because Preston conceded more than us last season their keeper must be terrible? You saying Matt Gilks is terrible? He won player of the year twice & as a keeper that's a terrific achievement as keepers normally get the most criticism. {Ed045's Note - Agreed... this is a step forward!

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All i can say is there must be no season ticket holders here:

Casper was a complete waste of space in goal.
1) he wasnt tall enough
2) he made at least 4/4 mistakes per game and at least 1 of them lead to a goal
3) he lived of his dads reputation

Lonergan is proved and tested..Take my word for it, watch how many clean sheets he keeps.

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You bunch off person pricks. You have short memories where was kasper playing when we got him for free. I f***ing tell us league two, that the old third division. Lonergan Conceded 54 goals in the 09 season that equates to the same number of goals conceded by Cardiff last season sort your facts out, premiership teams have been looking at the lad you bunch of dim wits they forget very quickly the boy played for England at every level apart from senior squad who else do we have that has done that Howson we are going to do well and when we do you lot will claim to be proper fans. Now f*** off and support scum because that all your good for. {Ed045's Note - very aggressive, but very right..

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That last post is equally funny and true. A brilliant rant

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Well said Also, whoever keeps putting "SideB4self" after there posts........ You sound like a muppet trying to copy Rio Ferdinand on his twitter

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Just one thing to point out if Prem' League sides wanted him he wouldn't be at Leeds, so they can't wanted him that much. I support the team and will get behind whom ever we sign or plays, though bates its time to go, please sell us and F**K off you arrogant PR*CK.
We still need least 2 Defenders, 2 Mid and 1 Forward, to even get to play off. face it we got out of Div 1 by skin of our teeth after bottling what was a champions season, we bottled last year, is that down to the team or bates & SG?

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Differance between Kasper and andy
Kasper shouted and blamed the defence,
andy will shout and organise it .

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Lay off simon Grayson, he's done nothing but well for this club so far. TRUST THE BLOKE. People who are whinging about simon grayson/bates are in that small minority of " Fans" who just moan week in, week out in the stands. Never happy, just moan 24/7,

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25 Jul 2011 18:49:57
After signing Lonergan today on a 3-year contract, Grayson hopes that he can finalise 2 more signings by the end of the week.

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25 Jul 2011 17:51:01
andy lonergan signs on 3 year deal

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Lets hope he can let in less than 79 this season....even kasper did better.

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Maybe because they got relegated? and we finished 7th so thats Just awfull from kasper look into it fool we are Leeds {Ed045's Note - Should be a great signing!

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25 Jul 2011 17:50:56
LEEDS HAVE SIGNED ANDY LONERGAN (3 YEAR DEAL, UNDISCLOSED FEE)

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25 Jul 2011 17:50:33
Andy lonergan is now a Leeds united player on a 3 year deal

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25 Jul 2011 17:49:33
leeds sign lonergan

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25 Jul 2011 17:47:21
JUST POSTED LEEDS SIGNED LONERGAN ON OS NEEDS CB NOW

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25 Jul 2011 17:45:18
Lonergan has just signed.

Official text

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25 Jul 2011 18:06:40
Leeds have finally signed a player and it is andrew longergan on a three year contract from preston

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LOOKS LIKE WERE GOING TO FOLLOW IN PRESTONS FOOTSTEPS...

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25 Jul 2011 18:05:59
lonergan is a done deal good signing and will prove a lot of doudters wrong.

However one signing isn't enough we need a least 3 more. one in each area defence, midfield and attack. MOT

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25 Jul 2011 18:04:26
Lonergan signing confirmed. SG says that he was always number 1 choice. Fee undisclosed. I have doubts, but I am a Leeds fan and will wait and see and will back him to the hilt. I hope I am wrong and he does great. I like Stockdale, but I agree that going for the Loan with a 24 hour recall provision would have been a big gamble. And with the GK position you don't want to gamble. Stability is the watchword.

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25 Jul 2011 18:02:05
Bit strange but just read on lufc ipad app that lonergan has signed 3 year deal, sg is delighted to get his number 1 gk target, then when i refreshed, its not on there any more.

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25 Jul 2011 18:01:40
Grayson says hes delighted, lonergan was always his one and only no 1 target

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25 Jul 2011 17:56:26
lonergan signs, leeds official website

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25 Jul 2011 17:55:42
Andy Lonegran has signed for Leeds Utd, Leeds have won his signature ahead of competition from Everton. On Official LUFC site MOT

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25 Jul 2011 17:55:00
Andy Lonergan signed for Leeds on a 3 year contract on Undisclosed fee

Source official site

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25 Jul 2011 17:00:51
Leeds are close to signing goalkeeper and part time striker, Andy Lonergan

www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbtZ4RaJglQ

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Leeds have signed Andy Lonergan on a 3yr deal confirmed LUFC website

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Confirmed on OS. 3 year deal, fee undisclosed

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Its on the o.s now...we have signed him, 3 year deal.

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Part time striker??? Please dont tell he's hes gunna sore more goals then billy

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25 Jul 2011 16:34:35
Ipswich to sign Jay Emmanuel Thomas permanently - and to get Stockdale

news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/14275393.stm

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Have you lost your way from the Ipswich board?

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25 Jul 2011 15:59:05
Looks like it must be Lonergan as Ipswich are finalizing deal for Stockdale according to SSN post the other day your contact not that close, think you should tell who he is so we know to avoid his bul...t MOT

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25 Jul 2011 15:50:12
Every 1 has no trust in the team saying we need new players all the time few tweeks i think we have a good team as we are start making ur statements at the end of the season grayson gets his chemistry right i can see us making the play offs we fizzled out 2nd half of the season last year alot of draws that should of been wins. Any news on the player that where 95% of signing should be 2day? Who is it? {Ed045's Note - Lonergan seems most likely.

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Lots of water to go under lots of bridges before season kicks off. Expect lots of loan dealings right up to last minute when Premiership clubs decide who is surplus to requirements for the time being

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25 Jul 2011 15:00:14
Just a quick straw poll. How good does Mendy look? Obviously really early days but i would be interested to hear exactly HOW GOOD HE CAN BE? I have seen him on You Tube, and he looks decent, but you can never trust the compiled clips made to make them look good. I have seen he is reasonably quick, tall, direct etc. How well did he do in the 2 friendlies? Would people like to keep him?

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Good back up winger but not good enough to start as of yet unless you're looking at Barnsley/Donny sort of level. Should improve as he gets used to English style of play though. If Gradel is a 10 for this league, Mendy is a 7

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I saw him at Hillsborough - he was very good in the first half but seemed to tire towards the end. I would give him another try in the friendlies to come as he looked promising, quick and good on the ball.

My Wednesday supporter friends said that Osbourne was useless for them in L1 last season, and the Wednesday fans booed him when he ran on.

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Have you looked at pre season highlights of him for Leeds? I think he did ok. Type stealingfromkenbates (no spaces) into youtube and then click on his channel. He's got all the pre season highlights and Mendy will be on the Rochdale and Shef Weds vids.

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How the hell do we know how good he could be? How long is a piece of string? That is what SG and his staff are paid for - to make objective decisions based on their experience and assessment of a player.

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Thanks for the feedback, reply number 3, ta, will have a look at those highlights. Number 4, what you say is a bit odd, just asking for peoples assessment of the player who have seen more of him than me. We are on a Leeds forum I am aware of the job that SG and his staff are paid for. Cheers anyway though.

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Thought he looked average against the wendies last saturday, however average still miles better than the other two trialists bodor and osbourne, no where near good enough at this level (grayson bound to sign them on 3/4 year deals then).

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How long is a piece of string? Twice the length of half of its whole

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Osbourne was steady but didn't do much, will improve. Clayton looked good. Bodor looked okay but lacking awareness. Mendy was good, will improve.

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25 Jul 2011 13:59:00
- villa agree fee for nzogbia- expect some interest form wigan but he wont leave unless both he and leeds r offered big money. Wigan r not that big a club anyway have respect for martinez but every season look like club who could get relegated so snooddy could end in CH even if he did leave

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25 Jul 2011 13:02:01
all those people that say Lonergan is a bad signing need to remember a few things.
1, it's reported that were paying £150k - £200k for him which means we have made a profit of nearly £1m (well £800k ish), which fair enough we may never see again but it still means there is money available if we decide to spend on another player. 2, we havent yet brought in any defenders and lets be fair something at the back needed changing from last year so this is a start. if we had never sold Kasper and brought in Lonergan we would be sitting here with exactly the same back 5 as last term

people are too quick to jump the gun but remember we have only let players go who wanted more money or where positions needed changing (Johnson, Killa and Kasper). with 2 or 3 more new faces Leeds will be stronger than last year, a lot stronger.

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There was comments from the club about the team with Kasper conceding 70 goals last year. Our of interest how many did Lonergan concede?

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You've got to remember that Preston North End would have conceded so many more goals last season without Lonergan. Lonergan was Preston's star player for the past 3 seasons, and when Premiership clubs declare interest in him, must show that he's doing something right.

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You monkey - to compare Preston with Leeds as far as goals conceded is a joke - it was a miracle that Lonergan only let in the amount he did

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60 in 33 games before being dropped in March and replaced with a loanee. Inspired choice
My issue is Leeds have less than two weeks to kick off and as you say "this is a start". A new defence should have been an absolute priority and it should have been in place weeks ago - shambles isnt to strong a word (especially if you saw how many problems Wednesday caused Leeds last Saturday).

Got no problem with players moving on, my issue is where are the replacements.

Simply not good enough if we are serious about challenging for promotion. If Grayson doesnt (cant) make any improvements on what we had last season its simply not realistic to expect the team to improve on 7th place. Leeds need better players than the ones that have moved on and better players than some that remain at the club - we havent got them yet and thats why so many supporters are worried and frustrated. Blind faith wont win anything and neither will a load of scaffolding on the east stand (mind you a wooden post probably better than most of the defenders currently on the books).

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Good sarcasm, yes he conceded 8 more goals but they were relegated, kasper conceded 70 and we finished 7th. any relegated goalkeeper will concede alot but u cant put responsability fully on a keeper if a team go down, im sure like 3 or 4 % of goals conceded could have been dealt with

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Preston conceded 79 but they let in far fewer at the end of the season when Turner was in goal. Having said that Lonergan was Prestons player of the season two years running.
Fulham wanted 250k for Stockdale loan so Lonergan at 150k appeals to KB more. At least he is our player so no recall clause & Chewbaka has done OK in friendlies

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An independent review of both keepers kas and lonners they are both rated 5 on player rating which is the 2nd lowest rating a player can get. So good business but not necessarly an improvment if they had spent the whole amount of kasper money im sure they would of got a better keeper in. Also as to how much we got for kasper its unknown and depends were you read some sources say it was 1.5mill

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Yes defence needs to be a bit stronger but you all forget we have parker again, paddy is back, and plus bruce and obrein and tome lees is back at the club so maybe just one perminant cb, samuel on free if hes fit again, and lichaj on loan as he is a great player for future. we should loan him with option to but if we get promoted. sam. MOT

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Lonegan was prestons player of the year the two seasons prior. Historically a good goalie. Maybe he lost confidence while playing in a team managed badly by Fergies son. I think he will do well

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I don't think you quite understand what profit is. We made a profit of 1m on Kasper then made a capital expenditure for Lonergan.

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25 Jul 2011 12:07:12
LONERGAN: Sky News reports that the deal is almost done and that potentially news could be released later today.

SMITH: Stated that he is going to sit out his last year at Newcastle. Orlando in the US league have spoken to him about a move but he reiterated that this year he will remain at Newcastle before contemplating move abroad next year. 'So much for all the inside best mates and he's coming rumours' Money talks and we aint got it. Leeds are becoming a joke in the transfer world.

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What a load of rubbish about leeds becoming a joke - what because were not prepared to pay 25k a week, plus newcastle pay some of his wages to somebody who's had 2 awful seasons at Newcastle. fair enough i would of liked smith back but if he's to driven by money i'm for one glad that were not giving in to his demands. the guy has done nothing now for 2/3 years and he wants double our best earners Howson, Gradel, Snoddy, Becchio are worth just as much in wages as Smith mate and they dont dmeands x amount of pounds

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Alan Smith's career is drawing to a close, he is not of an ability that Leeds United would look for and I would suggest he is aware of that.

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Why? Because we didnt bring in an overpaid injury prone failure of a midfielder.

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I disagree that we are becoming a joke. Yes we probably offer low wages but I believe the difference between our highest wage and Smith's wage will be massive, hence why he's staying. He'd be mental to take such a drastic cut

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Becoming a joke- This must be from someone who supports Leeds from the comfort of their armchair. Anyone who follows Leeds would not want to return to the days of paying top dollar for mediocraty which is what signing Smith would be. Wake up and come back to earth, whoever you are

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People who expect us to spend big are idiots Yes we cant spend a lot of money like you morons want and I'm more than happy that we dont. If it means we are financially secure then good. All you lot that want 'Ken to put his hand in his pocket' or want him to spend loads this will put us in debt AGAIN and I dont want that. Im happy with how things are run and we are debt free. If you want it to be a Ridsdale era again then you have your priorities wrong God help us if any of you clowns wanted to spend money we dont have, we would definately fold as a club Rant over {Ed045's Note - Agreed!

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Yes we are a joke but so is Smith. He is past his best and it is debatable whether he could add anything.

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It looks like you have another decent keeper. I m PNE fan and i would like to wish Andy all the best. All i m saying to you leeds fans is look after him he s a decent guy.

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With the money Smith is commanding to return he hasnt got a fookin clue about our financial situation, you claim he loves leeds and is a fan, he hasnt got a clue

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Good let him go to the states, he's showing his true colours now. What will his supporters blame this time....Bates being tight haha
We cant afford to have such an over paid injury prone lame midfielder on our books, on this one case I back Bates

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Because we arent getting Smith we're a joke? If anything this shows the clubs Isn't being run by morons desperate to relive the 'Glory days' with O'learys babies. Thank f*** We need Youth not Crocks

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He'd be mental to take such a drastic cut..........
I thought he loved playing football and loved his hometown club?
His fangirls are forgetting that Nufc are making up the rest of his wages that we cant meet, so technically he'd be dropping what 5k a week. Thats not exactly devestating when hes on 60k. He was on 45k in his prime at Leeds. Hes gotten greedy, theres no other excuses needed.

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Orlando City wouldnt be able to afford 3k a week, if he'd consider that over a return to ER then he simply is excepting hes ready for the scrap heap and he doesnt care about making amends with the fans. He'll be happy sunning himself.

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I do question whether some on here are Smith fans over Leeds fans

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Im glad, alan smith is a joke. in it for the money and never for the club.SCUM.

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25 Jul 2011 12:03:35
I read an article in the paper the other sunday and Ken Bates was in there saying how players only want the money and dont play for the club no more he alsowent on to say about a player who rejected leeds and then came back to them because he couldnt get a better deal and leeds turned him down second time around, best thing his it was Lonergan and they are signin him today. SHAMBLES

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Of course it's about the money. Everyone regardless of what job you are in, will go where the money is. Obviously working conditions, facilities do apply but only where there is only a slight difference in wage.
What KB is doing is offering peanuts for players and then slating them when they don't sign saying they are greedy.

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The player who turned us down wasn't Lonergan you muppet, Lonergan represents himself, and Bates clearly said the players AGENT came back to him, if you don't know the facts then don't write crap.
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Go away Bates hater and take your moronic, embarassing chanting acolytes with you - the club doesn't need you, I don't want you bringing us down. You have embarassed yourself. Go and support Plymouth where Ridsdale is.

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Calm down Ken and concentrate on getting your lego sorted on the east stand.

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25 Jul 2011 11:54:48
To all those doubters about Longergan, he was being chased by Prem Clubs, that says something about the quality of player he is. Kasper chased by the "Mighty" Leicester cos there a massive club NOT Good signing
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25 Jul 2011 11:39:52
New keeper for 200k, Bates has still got alot of cash burning in his deep pockets

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I am willing to wait and see, but if LUFC fans are honest a 200k keeper from relegated Preston who is all of a sudden 'highly rated' does not inspire immediate confidence. Seems to me like a cheap replacement for Kasper and therefore a money making scheme. Would have preferred Stockdale.

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Actually he's been highly rated for a number of years, not "all of a sudden". Good keeper who lost his confidence playing in a shocking side. Lets hope he gets back his confidence as he is potentially a class signing if its true he's coming

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And if we got stockdale then he got recalled and we had no number 1 I bet you would have said that we should have got a keeper without a recall clause? The management and board can't win with some people but at least your going to give lonergan a chance unlike some on here.

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Im sure alot of fans would prefer stockdale but a 24 hour recall clause would be a stupid gamble to take

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Looks like Lonergan will be our new no1 keeper
Egg on ya face Simon, let in more goals than Kasper
And you mentioned in the press, you wanted to get in a better keeper than Kasper
Really ?
A keeper is only as good as his defenders, and you still havent bought in any new faces.
Mid table at best for Leeds {Ed045's Note - Once again pessimistic attitude, Lonergan is a really strong keeper, he wasn't at fault for any goals/hardly any last season, Preston as a team just crumbled, Kasper was a miserable get that played for himself.

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Actually Lonergan hasn't let in ANY goals for Leeds yet so get your facts right. Lets play like for like shall we?

Hardly surprising nobody wants to sign for us with idiots like you writing them off before they've even agreed to join the club.....

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Just an opinion but as good as kasper close range stops and distribution was I felt we conceded to many goals from distance last year, thought kasper was bit small and carrying bit of extra timber. He wasn't signing a new contract and would of left for free at end of next season like he did at man city and mitts county. Looks like we got to good championship keepers to fight for number 1 jersey

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I agree with the Ed. As the OP said himself, a keeper is only as good as his defence, and Preston were beyond shocking last season. Lonergan will be a good fit, Kizzie is a rock, and I'm hopefully that the likes of Parker can repay the faith shown to him throughout his injury rocked career. MOT The Might Whites Forever.

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Ed's spot on It seems sadly that many Leeds fans won't be happy until we've signed Petr Cech

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Conceded more goals than Kasper did last season

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What do you base your "lonergan not at fault for any goals conceded last season" analysis on. Fair enough to remind us all to give the guy a chance but the sweeping generalisation you have resorted to really doesnt make a case for this being a good signing. The harsh reality is unless Leeds also bring in quality players (LB, RB, CM and another CB) it wont make a great deal of difference how good lonergan is.

I can accept being told to stop moaning and be positive (I am not positive about this season though, actually really worried) I cant accept it when its backed up by resorting to made up facts to suit your own argument.

Kick off in 12 days and our defence has not been improved at all and we are stiil light in central midfield (howson, clayton and nunez all very similar players). Was at the game on Sunday and none of the trialists are anywhere near good enough. The hungarian left back made Bessone look like ashley cole.

You carry on applying your "rose tinted" view to events at ER, i'll carry on commenting on what i see (good bad or indifferent) and all i have seen coming out of Graysons gob all summer is platitudes and cliches and as a club all Leeds have managed to do to "improve the squad" is recruit a couple of 30+ journeymen. Its been a long time since i have felt a Leeds pre season promise so much (4 quality additions) and deliver so little.

We all want the same as Leeds supporters, I guess we will just have to disagree on whether (on the basis of Leeds transfer policy so far) we are likely to progress towards that goal this season.

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Agree SG has messed up.
Ed - Lonergan is NOT a very good keeper. He is just as big a liability as Kasper could be on occasion. SG has NOT improved our back line. It is no better than last season, and the only beneficiary is Bates, again. {Ed045's Note - Ok, he is not a good keeper, he was wanted by 3 PL clubs and one had 2 bids turned down because the amount wasn't benificiary for Preston at that moment in time, we might not have PAID to improve the back four, but we have brought through players that will improve us, Paddy Kisnorbo, Aidy White, Tom Lees etc. If you are a Leeds fan you will realise that paying un-necessary amounts of money to get a player that is good enough for just the championship is pointless when there are countless frees and loans out there that can do just as good a job.

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Yes defence was not great last season even though we had injuries to kiss, nails, Parker people forget our main problem was zero support from midfield. Our most defensive minded midfielder also had one of the most shots at goal (usually off target)in th league- that just shows you where he was on the park {Ed045's Note - Exactly..

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Were better when Parkers injured, hell get skinned week in week out, surely a good defender needs pace and the ability to tackle, he has neither, cmon Simon, lets have a quality replacement.

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Not saying Lonergan isnt a good player or wont do a good job, IMO his signing does not improve our defence from last season for that we need a LB, RB and another defensive midfielder in addition to brown. I would also like to see another CB come in to give Obrien and Kisnorbo some competition and cover (Lees may be up to the job however that is a lot of pressure to put on a young player who hasnt performed at this level before).

I am a Leeds fan through and through, it really annoys me to hear that i cant really be one if i'm not eulogising every move the club makes. I agree there are countless frees and loans available however that doesnt mean they are the right players for Leeds. All we are doing is limiting ourselves to a very specific pool of players rather than looking at the players that might actually make a difference. You seem to suggest that there are only two player aquisition strategies available, the bargain basement where Leeds currently chhose to shop or the ridiculous excess of the Ridsdale era. I am not asking for Leeds to spend money on players they dont have to spend, I would like to see Leeds invest some of the money they clearly do have on quality additions that will go straight into the first 11 and make Leeds a better team in the process. If your telling me Leeds dont have 1m to spend on a couple of players I simply dont believe you, unfortunately Leeds have chosen to spend their money on other things (a giant lego set for the east stand).

Injuries to Naylor and parker didnt contribute to Leeds poor defensive record, they are no better than the players that did play.

Lets see where we are in a few months time, I will be interested in your take on proceedings if it turns out the needed more than tweaking.

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I will tell you this Lonners is the best stopper & one to one in the championship, give the lad a chance.

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Chatting to a mate at work today who has a season ticket at CCFC, attend every game (poor sole) and he said
Lonergan was the best keeper he saw last season

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25 Jul 2011 10:25:51
SG will surprise us all today by announcing the signing of Andy Lonergan £150k AND Michael johnson on a season long loan

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Wow. i bet the rest of the championship are quaking in their boots.

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The signing of Andy Lonergen will take place, however Michael Johnson is not one of the players, Leeds United have recently enquired about. I would suggest a former loan player returning on a permanent deal, is more likely.

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25 Jul 2011 10:13:55
What a load of rubbish We sell Kasper for Lonergan? Was Rachubka bought to be number 1? Well done Leeds, build us all up for this signing and then let us down by signing a crappy league 1 goalie. Give Grayson some money Bates so we can actually buy some DECENT players {Ed045's Note - Lonergan is a really good championship keeper.

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We have to look on the positives, Everton where after him so he must be a decent keeper, and he is not a loan signing.

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I agree with ed. Lonergan will be a good keeper for us. I will be happy with this signing if it come off...and Bates has had to pay for him so people can stop moaning now

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You're a retard. what basis do you have to say Lonergan is "a crappy league 1 keeper"? he will be better and more consistent than Kasper, and will command his box more. I bet you have never seen him play. Give him a chance before you spout rubbish

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We sell kasper for lonegan to me this is good business MOT p.s to the poster get a grip and support your granny and not leeds

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There's so much wrong with this it's hard to know what to say.

Rachubka wasn't signed to be No1, or he'd have the No1 shirt, which he doesn't. You have no idea what went on with Kasper, I was gutted at first, but given what I've read / heard since, it seems like a good move.

Lonergan is a "crappy league 1 keeper" ? Well he won Prestons player of the year twice in the Championship, and has been linked with Everton, Villa & Wigan (all premier league clubs) and West Brom tried to sign him 3 times with good size bids, this would suggest you don't know what you're talking about...

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He ent that bad, but i see what your saying give simon grayson some cash and get alan smith back

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If we get lonergan we will have paid at least 100k for him. He's a good keeper, I'm sure he was in goal when we played them in the championship play off semis and he looked solid (can you confirm this ed?). If he signs I'm pleased we've got him. Maybe Stockdale is slightly better but we can't agree to a 24 hour recall clause.

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I think lonergan will be a good choice to replace kasper he is a good keeper

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It is a good deal we get about 800k profit from Kasper deal to spend on others I doubt it but its still there {Ed045's Note - Yes the price is rumoured to be 100-150k, perhaps add ons (sell ons etc.)

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Kasper was a prima donna and lives of his father's reputation. He certainly aint the finished article yet and if any player is as disruptive to team morale as this egotistical brat is alleged to be, then he should be shown the door whoever he... or his father might be

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If Kasper was disrupting the dressing room and he actually conceded a huge amount of goals last season....we can't do much worse. Bit of an arrogant git according to sources...
Lonergan is a good buy, he was excellent for Preston prior to the form dip last season.

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Well OP there you are - nobody agrees with you so you and the other Bates haters (who completely embarassed Leeds at Hillsborough with their repetitive moronic chants on Saturday) go away and stop trying to destroy our club

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Lonergan is not good enough to be our #1 keeper.
The derision from fans comments when Lonergan was mooted as a replacement a month ago has now ebbed away. Remember, we all thought he wasn't as good as Westwood, Smithies, Given et al who were touted at the time.
Now those dreams are a busted flush, you are all supportive of the Lonergan bid.

Barrel scrapers

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Go away and support Plymouth you Bates hating idiots. Bates has been great for our club - you have been anything but

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25 Jul 2011 10:12:57
Leeds to sign Lonergan today.

MOT

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25 Jul 2011 10:10:54
Lonergan set to be named new No 1.. Should be named sometime today.

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25 Jul 2011 10:06:51
Andy Lonergan. All but signed. But is he any better than Kasper?

source Floyd The Barber {Ed045's Note - Very very good keeper, knows this league like the back of his hand, no pun intended ;)

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Didnt he concede more goals than Kasper last season ?
Grayson stated he wanted a better keeper than Kasper
The real reason Kasper went was more to do with his attitude than his keeping skills
Its more to do with having crap defenders
Which Grayson hasnt addressed yet

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You can't blame goals conceded on your keeper entirely, if you did half of the championship would of had better keepers than us last year {Ed045's Note - Lonergan is a great all round keeper, Kasper was a very good shot stopper, but had no authority over his defence, Lonergan does.

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25 Jul 2011 10:00:33
SSN : Leeds are closing in on the signing of Preston goalkeeper Andy Lonergan.

Leeds have been chasing the 27-year-old all summer as they look for a replacement for Kasper Schmeichel at Elland Road.

Everton have also expressed an interest in Lonergan, but the Toffees have been unable to agree a deal with Preston.

Preston are willing to sell Lonergan following their relegation to League One and Leeds are now in pole position to land the keeper.

Talks are thought to be at an advanced stage between both clubs, with Leeds hoping to tie up a deal in the next 24 hours as they look to make Lonergan their new No.1.

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25 Jul 2011 09:58:10
Leeds to land Lonegran in next 24 hours.

Source: News website

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25 Jul 2011 09:29:26
Stockdale was at a family party in Pudsey, Leeds yesterday. He was told us that he wasnt signing for Leeds but was signing for Ipswich, but he has been known to be a wind up merchant MOT

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25 Jul 2011 09:21:22
It wont be stockdale he left leeds last night after being up there for a christening according to his wifes twitter account

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25 Jul 2011 09:08:28
we should sell snoddy for 8million , on twitter duncan castle said that when wigan sell nzogbia they will meet the 8 million asking price for him.
with the money we should get nicky maynard . bristol will accept 5 and we would still have 3 which is good to get his other targets . i know snoddy is a good player but we have nunez . lloyld sam who can step in and with maynard instead of paynter your easilly gonna get over 1 goal . sometimes you have to think for the squad to improve then keep a player who could sell and we could sign better players then release the rubbish ones like bessone, paynter,

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Whatever leeds get bates will keep and larry will get sod all

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Not even 2m of it would get spent on the team, so whats the point?

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You must be master bates himself. The squad woul see very little of any cash brought in from selling him. Since when has selling your best players and replacing them with crocks that are half as good been the way forward. Plus, Maynard is a completely different player. We need snoddy, I honestly don't think there is a more skillfull player in the championship. {Ed045's Note - I don't think skillful is the right word, but maybe the most clever in posession, he's not the fastest, but seems to beat people left right and centre!

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Dont be so stupid, 5mil for maynard after being out for so long ?

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Snodgrass is one of the best wingers in the league and scored plenty last season. Why would we sell him and buy another striker who will probly score less. And anyway if we did get 8mil it would go into bates back pocket so dont expect to see any if it.

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If Bates hadnt spent 7 million on the east stand there wouldnt be talk of selling there best players to give SG cash to spend, its players like snoddy that bring the good players to the club.

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Although snograss is skilful he certainly isnt one of the best wingers in the division. i would even say he isn't the best winger at leeds. if it were true that someone is going to bid big money for him then why not let him go to strengthen the team

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If we got 8 million Bates would give Simon 2 million maximum.

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Duncan Castle has tweeted no such thing. Another person making stuff up - doubt you are a Leeds fan

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He did tweet that I wrote it in response to another post and the op here went and checked and saw it too. Just because you have not got a clue how to use twitter you clown dont be saying were not leeds supporters you fool

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There not gna bid tht much. the reason he put the asking price up was so clubs wouldnt offer for him and i would rather keep snodgrass

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Snodgrass is the best player we have, at the moment he is a priceless part of our squad We need players that actually want to play for Leeds, players who love the club stayed because they wanted to, Snoddy being one of them. At his standard he'll be amongst the great names one day, guaranteed. Lets not make another Cantona out of him

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25 Jul 2011 08:58:31
According to te sun Alan Smith going to revive his flagging career with Orlando City in the States, at least then we can stop reading about wether he is coming or not, We are leeds

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25 Jul 2011 08:53:29
Okay so it's Monday, let's see who this signing is. Or is it more smoke and mirrors?

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25 Jul 2011 08:52:56
Leeds have revived their interest in Preston goalkeeper Andy Lonergan and agreed terms over a £150,000 deal.
Full story: Daily Mail

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25 Jul 2011 07:55:40
Gradel's on his way then. {Ed045's Note - On his way where? he has stated that he 'wants to stay with Leeds for a long time to come'

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As previously stated Max Gradel is a Leeds United player and unless a club offers a payment for his services, which is equal to the the fee Leeds United would look for, he will be a Leeds United player for season 2011/2012

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25 Jul 2011 05:01:31
Jay Emmanuel Thomas joining Leeds today (Monday), exciting signing to get the fans back on side

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Ha ha least it made me laugh. You do know they want cash for Jay don't you? Leeds don't buy players Clubs give us their best players for free cos bates asks so nicley.
UnitedAgainstBates1919.

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What the player that is signing for Ipswich Town on loan today?

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Jay Emmanuel Thomas played for Leeds United as a trialist recently, he was however injured during the game and is not fit enough for first team football. Leeds United will not be pursuing interest in Jay Emmanuel Thomas.

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Jay Emmanuel Thomas has agreed to join Ipswich Town FC.

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Jlloyd Samuel was the one on trial you dippy thing

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25 Jul 2011 02:31:11
I have been reading quotes on the Internet that werent there yesterday from Max Gradel saying how he loves Leeds and want to stay.

This has definitely made me happier about this season once we get a new keeper, left back/right back, centre back and a centre midfielder and I'm seriously hoping for new striker.

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25 Jul 2011 01:05:06
Stockdale on his twitter states "just had 3 hour lunch in leeds " SG then states v close to signing. Last week stockdale tweeted hes still allowed to tweet at moment. About time signed before norway

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25 Jul 2011 00:47:15
smith deal seems to be 100% dead, shame i was hoping he would come back.
guess he really does care about money. :/ MOT

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You only just realised he only cares about money? If he loved this club as much as most of the supporters do he'd have crawled back on his hands and knees and accepted whatever pay was offered. It's not like he's not made enough of it throughout his career

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ALAN SMITH DOESNT PLAY FOR MONEY when leeds sold him, he got a payout of something like 1.2 mil from manchester united, and do you no what he did with it? gave it straight to leeds, that is a player who would come back, so that makes me wonder if there ever was a proper inquiery into signing alan smith, ken bates is a p***k

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Prove he gave it back to Leeds...

and it would have been a loyalty bonus, somethign Smith shouldnt have received when he claimed he wanted to go to Man U and only Man U

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25 Jul 2011 00:04:30
Does anyone think Snodgrass is on his way out of Leeds? Its just that on the LUFC website, nothing has been posted about his 'injury' and he's only taken part in 1 friendly...
Am i reading too much into it?

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Grayson said it was a knock on the rochdale game and that he would miss sheffield too, so he had no need to bring it up again

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Grayson said it's only a small knock, but i hope not

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Grayson did say he'd picked up a knock, it hasn't been reported why Howson missed the Sheffield game in any great detail either or what is happening with OB but we all know they have a virus & hamstring injury respectively, don't worry mate.

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He didant play the Rochdale game unless he got injured in the warm up.

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Snodgrass apparentley said that Leeds is more like a family than a club so I wouldn't worry

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Snodgrass suffered a slight knock during the Motherwell game, he didn't play at the Rochdale game. There is nothing more to report on Snodgrass other than he is a Leeds United FC player and will continue to be so, for a considerable length of time.

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