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27 Aug 2025 07:12:05
Any news Alf or lad. Any new players being mentioned?
1.) 27 Aug 2025 13:15:48
Buonanotte's agent had a meeting with Leeds today, but he had a meeting with Dortmund yesterday.
2.) 27 Aug 2025 14:08:05
nothing new that I am hearing unfortunately.
3.) 27 Aug 2025 14:23:28
I fear our window is done.
4.) 27 Aug 2025 14:43:26
Thanks guys. Can’t compete with dorrmund I don’t think. Unless he likes mushy peas. Yuk.
5.) 27 Aug 2025 15:50:30
Brighton would rather loan him to an English club, as Buonanotte is six months from counting as homegrown.
6.) 27 Aug 2025 22:24:15
Nothing Aus frustratingly.
19 Aug 2025 09:04:17
If rumours correct about Leeds wanting 17 mill for mez. They bonkers for 5 with add ons. Nobody going to pay17 .
1.) 19 Aug 2025 11:28:14
They're not, we want £4m.
2.) 19 Aug 2025 11:59:30
no chance youd have thought. be lucky to get rid on a free imo his reputation is shot.
15 Aug 2025 03:02:36
Rumour has it that the focus now is on shifting the players out. Not signings.
1.) 15 Aug 2025 07:23:55
I would find that hard to believe…. We are definitely still looking for that FB cover, LW and #10.
2.) 15 Aug 2025 07:50:17
And striker, striker, striker!
What we've got so far in that department is not enough for a PL campaign.
3.) 15 Aug 2025 08:43:07
Would make sense, 3 or 4 to go inc Meslier and Bamford. hopefully quickly and for decent fees. Only couple of weeks left in window.
4.) 15 Aug 2025 08:43:08
Yeah. Not the case at all.
5.) 15 Aug 2025 08:45:07
We need to move some out before more can come in, or we may be screwed on wages.
I would shift Meslier, Gnonto*, Piroe*, struijk*, Schmidt (leaving) and maybe Tanaka if we are offered 40+million and buy BIG BIG BIG players at the close of the window.
* Because of their value. The lower table and champo teams are flogging players of lower quality than these for 25 mil+. Gnonto and Piroe should fetch 25 mil each.
6.) 15 Aug 2025 09:59:13
Thank fu#k you're not in charge!
7.) 15 Aug 2025 10:41:11
Shift Tanaka? No way I think he will be a stand out alongside Stach this season!
8.) 15 Aug 2025 11:12:50
Mo, which are these lower quality players?
9.) 15 Aug 2025 11:43:18
Holy Jebus Mo! And replace them with what exactly? Subuteo men? If you want better quality, you pay more!?
10.) 15 Aug 2025 16:44:35
Woah woah, before we all wet the bed, they're all quality, but if it means we can buy a worldy then do it.
I love Tanaka but if someone offered 50/ 60mil for him, I would sell.
And when I mean big players I mean big players. Role the dice, spend big, do a forest.
12 Aug 2025 03:11:59
If it's dobvyk incoming. Thoughts. Half decent stats and in top flight but is he better than piroe? Not sure.
1.) 12 Aug 2025 08:46:41
He won the La Liga golden boot the season before last and you're wondering if he's better than Piroe?
2.) 12 Aug 2025 09:25:03
Aus, Piroe was woeful again Saturday I feel now at this stage keifer Moores an improvement on him,
Dovbyk now seems the only believable link to our biggest problem.
3.) 12 Aug 2025 09:35:22
Oh. We going that far back?
4.) 12 Aug 2025 09:49:14
I'd like Dovbyk, but also why not Mitrovic, he's got proven PL performance. Please stop wasting time on Muniz, if he does come he'll likely cost far too much.
5.) 12 Aug 2025 10:34:20
Mitrovic too old and too expensive.
6.) 12 Aug 2025 10:40:49
Agree about Muniz. Another pax. Move on.
7.) 12 Aug 2025 10:41:32
Sunderland in for dov.
8.) 12 Aug 2025 11:42:01
Sunderland in for Dovbyk, surprise surprise. They'll likely land him whilst we're still pratting about deciding whether or not to make an offer. There's an old saying in business, "don't let the perfect get in the way of the good", so forget Muniz and make a good offer for Dovbyk ASAP!
9.) 12 Aug 2025 13:10:00
Is there any concrete links with Dov and Sunderland? I honestly think we will go for him. Club needs a #9.
10.) 12 Aug 2025 13:39:20
Concrete as how? Sighting is about semi concrete as we get. Sunderland just sign them. See how it goes.
11.) 12 Aug 2025 14:06:16
I've heard Leeds admire him, but the chances are low that he will come here.
12.) 12 Aug 2025 15:37:51
Sunderland rumours page states they are about to unveil a huge number 9 but no names he is one linked
I’d suggest on that he will end up there
We are being linked with sargant again.
13.) 12 Aug 2025 17:41:30
It was said that Chelsea had put in a clause that Guii had to be the starting no 9. If that's the case then the imminent arrival at S/ land is likely to be a back up and I don't think Dovbyk wants to be no 2. Ferguson has pushed him down the order and he wants to leave.
14.) 12 Aug 2025 20:34:19
Sunderland signed a huge 6'2" from Getafe on loan. Alderate. Not a striker but a CB/ FB. They can't have any money left in the piggy bank.
15.) 12 Aug 2025 22:35:45
It's frigid annoying I know that much mot.
16.) 13 Aug 2025 08:30:02
Correction. Alderate is not a loan but a 4 year deal for a fee of about £10m. They must still have money in the bank as they're not looking for a striker (they have 3) but might needs a new winger.
11 Aug 2025 11:01:57
Any sniffs guys in the know? Heard a name being mentioned today?
1.) 11 Aug 2025 11:36:13
Grealish gone to Everton imagine him against Schmidt!
2.) 11 Aug 2025 12:23:41
Won't sleep tonight now LL!
3.) 11 Aug 2025 13:18:48
Bogle will handle him ;-)
4.) 11 Aug 2025 16:42:55
Oh good he will be rolling all over I can't fecking abide the bloke.
5.) 11 Aug 2025 17:21:14
Boe looking like out till Xmas so nice heard.
6.) 12 Aug 2025 01:00:17
Really long?
7.) 12 Aug 2025 13:14:59
I had but now sources saying he’s back training on grass if he is long term we need a replacement not a back up.
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15 Nov 2025 07:23:24
Think we have upgraded our goalie which wasn’t that hard. His distribution needs improving but the rest of his game like presence, positioning and saving is good.
Gabby is more solid than firpo even if his attacking prowess isn’t as good.
Don’t think the other two defenders are any better than struik so not at prem level.
Long and stach are not really any better than gruev or ao so same same.
Up front. Well just no.
13 Nov 2025 23:30:08
It’s an interesting point re the quality of the players both the new and old and if they are prem quality or not.
I think on their day at their best Perri, Bogle, Rodon, gabby, amps in defence, long, stach, ao and Okafor are. That still leaves us short in the attacking third.
The form of Bogle who was a beast at beginning of the season has dropped and stach is a shadow of the player of the first few games.
It’s strange how the will of the players has dropped. Are they not up for the fight. Or are the tactics dictating their form.
At present form I see us as the worst team in the league. We simply have to buy quality in January if we have any dosh.
1.) 14 Nov 2025 06:05:55
98% agreement from me.
The excitement of playing PL football, and the adrenal energy that came with that seems to have burnt out as the reality of this season's challenge hits home. DF needs to quickly find a way to get that exuberance back into the players. I like the bite in the tackle that's still there, but the players have seemed flat.
2.) 14 Nov 2025 09:18:24
I agree but easy to say. Question is, who would join a sinking ship? Especially when there are other ships begging them to join.
No, the key is in getting what we have to gel together. Don't rely on the cavalry, they may not come. It's the old adage - "you got us into this mess. "
3.) 14 Nov 2025 09:31:17
We have the quality to finish mid table. There is the skill and talent in our squad to achieve that.
There isn't the belief or tactical ability from our coach to get those skills out of the lads.
4.) 14 Nov 2025 10:40:35
Gotta disagree mot. We haven’t the pace or striking ability to score enough and are thus far doomed for bottom 5 somewhere.
5.) 14 Nov 2025 11:06:10
We've shown flashes of that ability and talent, we've seen okafor and GG make runs, we've seen good goals scored, Nmecha convert, James make an attacking impression, stach and longstaff scored cracking goals and push forward.
We have the ability and talent. What we don't have it the ability to recognise it.
Put a crap manager on a world class production line and the numbers drop.
6.) 14 Nov 2025 13:01:04
Agree re manager mate but over 11 games. The odd threat. That’s always going to happen. Think early rounds of fa cup etc.
not good enough.
7.) 14 Nov 2025 14:30:29
Well geezoirs I keep going round in circles, had we showed the levels we did against Bournemouth, Wolves, Everton, the first half against Wet Spam we surely would have at least matched Burnley, Brighton and Florists but it just was not there in any way. I am totally baffled but something is very Pete Tong in the camp, the unity has gone too.
8.) 14 Nov 2025 14:50:45
it can take time for Bundes players to adapt to the EPL. Some of the players will be tired and Stach has been playing with an injury.
9.) 14 Nov 2025 16:45:55
I'm all for a managerial change, DF has the players playing fartoo conservative in their approach which I'd get pussed off with if you're in space ready to go but the ball gets passed backwards.
10.) 15 Nov 2025 06:42:29
I'm with Aus on the potential heights this team can reach. No chance at top half. (Hopefully a miracle happens, and you can throw that one at me in May, Mo! )
13 Nov 2025 01:53:19
I think all managers should be judged on current form. Not their past achievements. That makes no sense.
Just how long that run of bad form is, is debatable.
It would be logical for each game of the season be given an expected points total.
With both Liverpool and Leeds I would imagine that expected total has not been achieved.
I think our form since Tottenham has dipped. We were lucky v spam.
1.) 13 Nov 2025 08:26:35
Aus, I was with you until the West Spam bit.
How were we lucky? We battered them, we should have scored more, and i don't believe the scoreline was a true reflection of how we played. So a little credit where its due mate.
2.) 13 Nov 2025 08:30:34
I agree Aus.
Last season was fantastic and DF’s (current at that time) form going into the Premier League was great, so I was in the camp of him staying as manager.
However, his current form isn’t good enough and I now think we should make a change, which is sad imo.
Scary thing is, I am unsure who is out there and available, and willing to come to Leeds who is good enough to change results with the current crop of players, and will Clownface Marathe and his puppets do anything in January to support?
We dream of the promise land and the EPL, but I’ve enjoyed the last 2 seasons way better than any of the last 23/ 24 years since we played in the Champions League.
3.) 13 Nov 2025 10:42:44
Agreed Aus, even to the point of a few games ago, we are lost at the moment and I have a bad feeling about the Villa game. A home game where we have to pick up points but if we play as we have in the last couple we are going to get zero and the same from the next 3 after, in fact it could be epic proportions of spanking.
Be interesting to see how DF sets up because he has to go after a result, being negative at home is the road to disaster.
4.) 13 Nov 2025 10:48:45
Is it because Farke is not good enough or is it because the players are not good enough?
Or both maybe?
5.) 13 Nov 2025 11:13:31
Both opti tbh.
Totally agree we should have beat west ham by more mot but that’s the fault of our gifted striker.
We parked the bus v spam. When winning. At home mot. Nearly blowing it.
6.) 13 Nov 2025 11:21:00
I also largely agree Aus, but got throw something in. If this is true, why are Farke's Norwich escapades still coming into play now, or does "form" extend to the last 8 years when it supports a specific perspective?
Think MG has summed it up pretty well.
7.) 13 Nov 2025 13:06:13
I said and think form extends to max two months. Prob more like 6 weeks. If there is an inability to beat teams we should have or were pre season 3 pointers then it’s an off you go.
Think pretty much all of us expected a scrap. Pretty much all of us expected an unpleasant experience. But pretty much all of us said beat the teams at the bottom.
Lose to the better teams or scrap a draw. We were embarrassed by Burnley and played off the park by forest. So that ain’t working. It’s rotten to the core. Poor owners. Poor recruitment. Poor coach. Poor squad. But someone has to pay. And I guarantee you it ain’t owners recruitment team or players.
8.) 13 Nov 2025 13:06:13
I said and think form extends to max two months. Prob more like 6 weeks. If there is an inability to beat teams we should have or were pre season 3 pointers then it’s an off you go.
Think pretty much all of us expected a scrap. Pretty much all of us expected an unpleasant experience. But pretty much all of us said beat the teams at the bottom.
Lose to the better teams or scrap a draw. We were embarrassed by Burnley and played off the park by forest. So that ain’t working. It’s rotten to the core. Poor owners. Poor recruitment. Poor coach. Poor squad. But someone has to pay. And I guarantee you it ain’t owners recruitment team or players.
9.) 13 Nov 2025 14:24:02
I read a stat which says since the Premiership started Clubs that changed their manager when they were in the relegation zone, only 43% avoided the drop, that percentage is much lower after December.
I couldn’t find a stat for the last say, five years as the quality of teams in the Premiership has visibly increased and I’d be interested to know the more recent change of manager from the relegation zone, what kind of percentage failed.
Of course as we know already both Leicester and Southampton changed their managers to no avail, same with Sheffield Utd the season before.
10.) 13 Nov 2025 17:25:41
Well we will have Wet Sham and Florists to add to those statistics good or bad come the end of the season Op.
Hope your John Wayne walk is less noticeable and the hernia is healing well Pal.
11.) 13 Nov 2025 19:10:33
I hope so Class.
Much better thanking you ??.
11 Nov 2025 08:20:32
It seems from most reports that 49ers are sticking with Mr Farke. Given our next 4 games they can't really sack him for losing any of those. Although I would be hopeful for a point or two. Or should I say I was hopeful pre Sunday.
So unless they make the strange decision to sack him for not getting points from teams that we probably shouldn't and let him off for not getting points v teams we shoulda, here's here until the new year.
1.) 11 Nov 2025 09:14:52
I’m curious Aus, after those four particular games you’ve mentioned, which ones of the five after where we play
Brentford. A
Palace. H
Sunderland A
Liverpool. A
Man Utd. H
- that we will have any chance of picking up a result?
I seriously don’t think the new coach if any will be given any favorable games after anyway.
They will all be brutal and and leave that new coach, if any? in no doubt that his job to keep us up will be huge.
They 49er’s will already be considering their options of which coach will be our new lamb to the slaughter in their desperate bid to avoid what will be in all realistic terms, relegation for our club.
Make no mistake Aus, you clambering onto your thoughts that any new coach will save us is completely out of touch with reality.
Sorry fella to drop that bombshell on you but we are already at this stage in the season, starring down the barrel of a gun, if you really think it can’t get any worse I’m sorry to say that it is very probable in my opinion that it can.
I’m not suggesting yet that our owners should be already considering the possibility of Championship football next season, but I’m certain they will be having quiet conversations about it in their boardroom discussions.
2.) 11 Nov 2025 09:28:35
I think they'll stick with him, but him players in January and let him run his course until the end of the season
When the 49ers said they made a mistake with Marsch I think they meant because they sacked him, not because they waited so long.
3.) 11 Nov 2025 10:21:30
Not being argumentive here now OP, but it's strange that your now acceptance of what most realistically lays ahead is complete opposite of what you were saying in July / August when I said that Lewin +Numchuck amongst others were going to be total flops .
I felt it was alarming that some Leeds fans felt Lewin was going to be a hit here for us, and usual panning of posters for saying. this was met with the usual ( your so negative, your not a true supporter) muck .
Where as now you are almost saying it's over already in November. Our recruitment has been poor again,
We have had many many poor windows so it's no coincidence we are now struggling, coupled with a manager now who realistically should have been changed in summer, his previous attempts now are a carbon copy with us
I always believe there should be zero sentimental feelings in football
People said oh Farke. earned his shot at Prem, well he was paid well for his efforts last season, so it was a 2 way street
If he earned his shot now, now he also has to TAKE blame for his poor management at this level
It surely works both ways again
Also people saying good players aren't available on our budget are now proven wrong when you look around at other less glamorous sides in league who do find quality at reasonable cost . Again a 9'ers mistake appoint Underwood,
Your correct telling Aus even games in December/ January are tough, and I won't be at all surprised to see us possibly go 7-8 games without a point
Uphill battle all the way was this season's forecast in my eyes, but made harder by our summer signings also.
4.) 11 Nov 2025 10:33:00
Looking at the bigger picture, maybe there's no better option willing to join us.
A new manager will want easier games to gell the team and get results, they won't want spankings up until Christmas.
5.) 11 Nov 2025 10:50:55
Possibly Brentford palace. Sunderland and mancs mate although none if we continue in our current form.
6.) 11 Nov 2025 12:04:09
Nmecha is a better finisher than DCL and I think Nmecha has more potential in him. He has converted more chances than anyone else. Has more goals than anyone apart from Rodon and has played fewer minutes than all of them.
Nmecha okafor and James will be a lethal trio.
7.) 11 Nov 2025 12:34:44
Do not know whether you joking or serious MOT ?, please tell me it's zee former not latter ?.
8.) 11 Nov 2025 12:44:08
Said same myself mot last Saturday. Fear the hairstyle posing as a striker.
9.) 11 Nov 2025 14:02:35
Not joking Chris or taking anything away from DCL, I think he is in the wrong position. He is our attacking 10 that we need.
He wins the aerial duels. He can take the ball down and hold it up, he does smart play. If we had him in midfield or just Infront, with the wingers fed from his balls with Nmecha or the wingers sprinting into the box to convert the cross we would be laughing
Nmecha is a lot like Piroe with his shot accuracy but Nmecha moves quicker.
Okie and James cross into the box - which is we what did last season with Solomon and James, DCl/ midfield rush forward to convert - goals galore.
10.) 11 Nov 2025 14:09:36
I think where we differ on this subject Chris is that you possibly feel we could’ve afforded better players. The reality for me was the players that we bought were only of the quality of what we could afford.
Players like Stach, Gudmundsson etc are okay but clearly not Premiership quality, but I was prepared to see what they could deliver. I’m sure yourself Chris would not have known also how these players would perform in the Premiership.
As for DCL well he is a injury prone player but if fit, does have certain qualities to perform in the Premiership. His problem currently is probably that he doesn’t want to give that extra 10% that could make the difference as he is too nervous to injure himself.
11.) 11 Nov 2025 14:44:06
Not broke bank afforded, but when we see what others seem to regularly do we seem to be getting it wrong more often
Brighton, Brentford, Bournemouth etc seem now to have better calibre scouts than us also
Obviously all are longer in Prem now but you'd think fundamentally Leeds have to be better than a 20K max capacity cherries or similar Bees, why is that?
Lewin on huge money for poor returns,
Common sense is in short supply it seems within our hierarchy.
I still can't believe how they decided on Lewin and follow it up with a freebie then, we really haven't helped ourselves I believe.
12.) 11 Nov 2025 15:52:59
Chris they are all firmly rooted Premiership clubs, there maybe cheaper players on offer but they won’t want to sign for a club that will likely be relegated.
13.) 11 Nov 2025 16:25:46
Think you can add owners to that example Chris, our owners employ the recruitment teams and communication teams, but we are falling. Short on both fronts just now.
Speaking to another Leeds supporter over a pint and he insisted that Radz achieved more to date than the 49ers it surprised me but he made a compelling argument.
14.) 11 Nov 2025 17:36:24
I said that in my post OP, my point being they are smaller stature clubs and they are attracting these type players
Any new signings that contemplated Brentford this summer were surely thinking they are definitely relegation candidates.
But hey -ho, Andrews seems to be holding his own right now
Not all players are wanting European football as a pre requisite to signing, and there's no way Bournemouth+ Brentford can pay huge wages
So again I ask why are we failing where others seem to be more successful?
Orta was by and large rubbish, now we have replaced him with what seems a poor replacement, What's going on in scouting, why is it too frequent?
What ""data "" was analysed that said our strikers were going to be good fit?
Bijol seems ropey at best, how are they coming to wrong assumptions more often than not?
15.) 11 Nov 2025 18:15:41
I have not posted for a while…plenty of other dramas going on unfortunately.
The last two matches have been very concerning for me. The first time (aside from 30 minutes either side of half time v Arsenal) that we haven’t competed. At Forest, it looked like we were just going through the motions; everyone played really poorly. I know it’s a bit of a stretch, but is the infrequency of games impacting us? No ability to gain any momentum or rhythm? We averaging less than a game a week at the moment.
I don’t want Farke to be sacked (unless it was because Klopp was coming) , so just hope we show far more v Villa (all our home games in fact) and I clutch to a “unexpected” result to try and kick on and get out of the malaise. We need another 7 - 9 points between now and Christmas me thinks. I had a side bet that we would never occupy a relegation slot this season…. I think that’s a bit unlikely given our current form / run of fixtures.
I think we need 2 up front…. DCL holds the ball up well and wins a lot of first balls, but at the moment they’re not being taken advantage of.
16.) 11 Nov 2025 19:07:16
You don't want Farke sacked? Why? What's the emotional attachment?
17.) 11 Nov 2025 19:32:22
MOT, More turmoil…. it seldom makes a difference and costs money we don’t have.
18.) 11 Nov 2025 19:46:42
Turmoil of 16 years out. of big time Ani?
Money we don't have in richest league in world with a revenue stream only Bournemouth and Brentford etc would certainly swap for ours Ani.
19.) 11 Nov 2025 19:48:51
Seen a stat today
Farke has worst manager win ration in Prem history.
We are morphing into Norwich PT 2 under Farke,
He really should have been replaced in summer now imo.
20.) 11 Nov 2025 20:16:49
Ani, I thought the players were up for it v Forest, until they scored their equaliser
Then the players kacked themselves let Forest pull their pants down.
21.) 11 Nov 2025 21:28:53
It’s that 16 years of turmoil that has us where we are Chris. Bournemouth and Brentford have established themselves in the EPL and as a result have better finances than us. You can question why, but it doesn’t detract from the that we wasted a fortune in our last stint of “relegation mitigation” which we are still paying for.
We swapped our manager 3 times in our last EPL stint…made no difference to our relegation other than spending a fortune on compensation and perversely impacting our promotion push the next season.
22.) 11 Nov 2025 21:34:33
Chris, Farke statistically was the worst EPL manager, when he managed Norwich. Kieran McKenna – 0.58 PPG, has now picked up the mantle. Vincent Kompany is statistically a worse EPL manager, but he’s a god at Bayern. You can make stats say anything you want.
23.) 11 Nov 2025 22:02:04
That makes zero sense Ani
basically because we were relegated in 2004 we are now Norwich PT 2 and shall always be?
Explain that logic to me with again Brighton, Bournemouth, Brentford so?
You have to accept Ani it's an owners issue, we seem to have had a few now where money primarily enriches them firstly and team seems to be scrimped on which was definitely case in summer
9'ers seem to want big stadium, well wouldn't that be secondary to a better side on match day in light of how. poor. our squad is now
Also Farke is correctly worse EPL manager ever,
But little caveat I didn't write was after 50 games, his. win rate is a shocking 15.3%.
24.) 11 Nov 2025 22:14:31
How come All 3 I mentioned have lasted longer back up then us Ani? All have been in Champo upto a few seasons ago, but now have stabilised mid table, that's what I don't get in your logic
Leeds are somehow perpetually doomed is it?
Where as other promoted sides have escaped that perpetual doom? And are now more attractive outfits?
What are Bloom - Foley et al doing that we are clearly not?
That's my point, we have circa 40 k every other week, these clubs have half that, why is it going wrong for us, after all we are supposed to have a multi billion dollar hierarchy at our disposal!
And I don't mean buying our way into trouble, I mean all the business acumen etc etc etc
Why are we turning into Norwich?
25.) 11 Nov 2025 23:03:03
Chris, you answer your own questions, so I’m not going to bother. Attendance at our ground is immaterial. It counts for basically nothing in the scheme of things. Winning the Championship earned us about £10M. Liverpool got approx. £175M for winning the EPL, plus about £58M for being in the Champions league. The teams you mention, whilst not earning anything like Liverpool, still dwarf our earnings while we spend 2 years in the championship. Until we ourselves can become established, we won’t be competing for players or managers who will improve our lot much.
Because we messed up last time we were in the EPL, I. e. buying expensive players on poor / expensive contracts, 4 managers (compensation) , we have messed up PSR. It’s not about business acumen (one could argue it’s that very point that we are showing a lot if it) , it’s about being in a commercial straight jacket.
What I find remarkable about many comments here is that, we all predicted it would be an extremely hard season, that we would struggle to avoid relegation (we were second favourites after all) , that we would lose a lot of games, take a pasting more often that not, and yet when all that comes true, everyone is shocked and angry?
26.) 11 Nov 2025 23:23:38
60 games in the prem. 9 wins. 10 draws.
4 wins away from home.
That villa game will be interesting.
May as well keep him on through the man city and Liverpool games as punishment.
27.) 12 Nov 2025 06:31:01
I don’t think there are many on here that still won’t accept that we are relegation fodder and will be the entire season.
Too many eyes on Sunderland’s impressive start which maybe not so impressive when you consider their very favourable PSR situation and the sales of players in the summer which accounted to nearly 50M.
They spent in the region of 170M in the summer with the possibility of making higher debts in January.
We on the other hand made approximately 5M on sales and we’re only allowed to spend 100M as we reach the roof of our spending capacity.
In January we have to sell players to be able to buy.
It’s not hard to see that their spending power has enabled them to strengthen with the players they wanted as opposed to us not our fist choice but mostly second or third choice players.
Winning promotion for Sunderland who had more or less a average Championship team were caught in a perfect storm that enabled them to buy a premiership ready made squad.
They were able I imagine to entice Granit Xhaka who has been a sensation for them by the promise of their spending power to make a very realistic attempt to not only survive in the Premiership but also to make an attempt for European football,
The money power between them and us and Burnley is more than double which gives them a huge advantage. I’m sure if Sunderland were in or around the relegation zone, some fans might be more accepting of the reality of our plight this season and not complain as much as they are.
28.) 12 Nov 2025 07:36:19
Yes they are so to speak smaller clubs with respect, but all have a firm grip in the Premiership with players of quality.
The only clubs that are expected to go back down are the promoted ones, so the choice becomes very thin for those type of clubs.
Wolves for example have had to sell several of top players and have brought in new players who are still better quality than what we bought in the summer. They will still climb out of the relegation zone in my opinion, Edward’s might be the catalyst for their resurgence but the point is they were still able to attract better quality players than us even with their low position last season.
29.) 12 Nov 2025 08:03:10
By the way Ani a very precise account of the difference of finance between the two leagues, including the huge financial mess left at the door of our new owners.
In fact if anyone reads Ani’s reply to Chris you get a very clear understanding of our situation.
30.) 12 Nov 2025 08:04:36
Ani you spoke of manager comp draining our cash
Bubs only ever signed 12 months rolling contract so no big payout there
Marsch signed a 3, which they paid 2 off, he wouldn't have been on colossal money
Garcia signed a " flexible " contract at the time, so again very small money
So no your manager" compensation" drain is inaccurate,
You glided over my main question
HOW OR WHAT have the teams I mentioned managed to stay. up is what I am asking
I am fully aware that attendance doesn't equate to huge cash, I raised that issue to highlight the fact we ARE a bigger club than the aforementioned BUT can't seem to stabilise ourselves the way the smaller clubs have done
What are we NOT doing correctly that the aforementioned ARE?
is my point ani and it's not the money, because we all came back up, we all got the same initial money yet we will probably go back down again now
Again I ask How has Bloom - Foley et al managed it?
Yet we will probably blow it again,
I used the business " acumen " point to highlight that we are also supposed to be ran by a hugely successful business franchise
Why aren't they using that acumen to highlight our inadequacies?
31.) 12 Nov 2025 08:22:53
Just seen your comment OP, thought I would reply pal
I am 100% fully aware those clubs have Prem stabilization now,
I am asking from 1st season back up, which we all start from, how have they took a different path?
That's my point, not ( Prem money ) we all started with the same
And we are told Leeds are abiding by PSR, so we are supposed acting as we should.
32.) 12 Nov 2025 08:34:50
Hit send by mistake OP, the last point I wanted to put down was, If there was / is no real money,
Then how are the 9'ers financing stadium rebuilds? I
A child understands you can't spend what you don't have, or that you can't get credit without due diligence credit checks, then how is this even on radar of Leeds?
If we are perpetually doomed over sins of past!
33.) 12 Nov 2025 10:49:02
The construction of new football stadiums don’t come under the scrutiny of PSR.
I totally understand the frustrations of us fans, especially us Leeds fans who have had our fair share of naive and reckless owners.
As far as I’m concerned the 49er’s are doing their business by the book and I believe we have spent as much as we are allowed to.
As Ani has pointed out, the tenure of Radrizziani hasn’t done the 49er’s any favours in getting our club in a stabilized position in the premiership, in fact for them, they probably feel like they have had both their legs together and asked to climb to the top of a hill backwards.
As far as the summer recruitment is concerned, I think they tried to bring in some proper quality but were knocked back by excessive inflated prices or a clear rejection by players not willing to go to a promoted club that will very likely be relegated by the end of the season.
Whichever way you look at it reasonably Chris, it is a very tough task, but one the is not impossible, as fans we all live in hope that we can eventually compete in the Premiership on a level ground more or less with all the other teams.
34.) 12 Nov 2025 11:40:52
The stadium example was to undermine, it's that cash that should be used in development/ scouting / etc, all free from PSR as you said
Clearly that's where we are failing, not that I could get any of ye to say that, no matter how many comments I left ???.
35.) 12 Nov 2025 19:40:09
Thanks lads for replies, fairly lengthy thread which was a good read,
36.) 12 Nov 2025 20:39:41
Chris, re why have the three teams mentioned survived? Well, simplistically; they have been run better than us for one and more importantly, they were fortunate to have been in the EPL for the last two seasons, when frankly the 3 promoted teams on each occasion were utterly dire. Everton, Forest, and even Brentford looked far more likely to be relegated that season than us.
Let's not forget, than even in our last relegation season, the 3 teams above us, all broke PSR rules and received points deductions, unfortunately and conveniently, the season after the crime was determined. We can all contemplate why, but we for some reason in the last 10 games of that season utterly collapsed. No one, not even all seeing Baz could have predicted 4 points from the last 10 games. Who knows if we had found those two extra points and stayed up - perhaps we would been stable EPL now?
There has still never been an explanation of what went off at 1 - 1 at half time v Palace when we totally outplayed them in the first half. We were utterly dire [we had only been dire for most of that season] from that moment on.
11 Nov 2025 03:58:07
Just read that Sunderland are aiming to bid 92 million quid on a Barcelona player. I know they had a favourable psr but jeez.
15 Nov 2025 13:43:28
The dna we won’t change. Which should have been changed but
Now unrecognisable.
14 Nov 2025 10:38:58
Spot on class. Nail head.
14 Nov 2025 06:43:41
If he can’t get 5 points from spam forest and Burnley I doubt he Will v next four. Pointless as mot says. Let’s waste another 4 games.
04 Nov 2025 02:17:04
Not sure about Gerard. Wouldn’t be an upgrade on what we have.
25 Oct 2025 06:44:40
Oi Oi. That graham geezer is back.
It was tongue in cheek post geezer. Lighten up ?.
17 Nov 2025 07:23:09
Like us bright.
What you think. Solomon or Okafor? Solomon as good if not better and cheaper. Then maybe we could have paid a fee for a striker instead of the rubbish we’ve got.
16 Nov 2025 13:43:41
Agree brocks. Worth a twirl. But. It’s like Farke thinks it’s desperation when it’s really just give it a go.
16 Nov 2025 11:50:27
It’s Farke right. Stubborn as a mule. Thinks he knows best. Gifted best teams by a mile and gets promotion but then clueless. What’s surprising is.
16 Nov 2025 06:54:49
Jr. you think Farke will drop ba?
James knows he ain’t good enough for prem league that’s why he is either injured or rubbish.
The only positive v villa is they don’t score much so a sneaky 0-0 although unlikely is possible.
15 Nov 2025 08:56:23
Nothing wrong with that post Matt.
Spam we were dire second half and since. Need to win as many home games as possible.
Happy to give him the villa game to prove us doubters wrong. Break a leg Farke.