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08 Oct 2021 16:11:49
Reported that Phil Hay

believes Leeds United will likely be sold to San Francisco 49ers and Peter Lowy when Radz decides to sell up.

Sounds very plausible and logical ; would not surprise me if that happens at the end of next season 2022/ 2023 or even sooner.


1.) 11 Oct 2021 07:55:23
I can't see it happening as soon as that. Not with the 3 year pla to get into Europe and the stadium expansion.

2.) 13 Oct 2021 17:58:17
Indeed Alf. Radz has previously suggested he will step aside once the plan to get into Europe has been achieved, or if it becomes clear his ownership is holding the club back from achieving that goal.

Even though the Toon takeover could be seen as having a potential to send a seismic jolt through the plans of the other owners across the EPL and beyond, it currently seems unlikely to change any embryonic plans for a change in Leeds’ ownership. As the potential new owners, the 49ers and Lowy would seem likely to value Radz input, in terms of experience, contacts and investment through this vital next stage of the Club’s development. And I suspect Radz’s instinct, in terms of business and personal self-esteem would be to want to take on, rather than run from this new challenge.




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24 Oct 2021 15:17:17
Phil Hay stating in the Athletic today that Bielsa sends players out on loan that he sees have no future at Leeds ( whilst he remains coach)

Does seem to be the case thinking of players that have been sent out on loan and then sold / give away

and in which case it would therefore appear ( as indeed PH indded alludes to )

that one of Clueless 's tips Bogusz maybe a tad surprisingly and disappointingly have no future ( under Bielsa at least) at Leeds.


1.) 24 Oct 2021 15:55:40
I always thought that, once your gone, your done with him.

2.) 24 Oct 2021 16:02:25
Baz Can see Bogusz being exception due to our aging and declining midfield.

3.) 24 Oct 2021 16:14:20
hope so George.

4.) 24 Oct 2021 18:21:06
Baz - Hay said that in a response within a Q&A type format prior to the Wolves match, rather than in a thought-through article. He also said it tends to be the case that loaned out players have reached the end of the line - and to date it is certainly the case that no player sent out on loan during Bielsa’s tenure has made it into the first team squad.

However, Bielsa said at the beginning of this season that (at least for some of the most recent players to leave - such at Robbie Gotts) he feels that to be a failure on his part, for not enabling them to progress to the required level.

Also Bogusz signed a three year contract (with the option for a further season extension to June 2024) ) before going out on his first loan. If they were just giving a new contract and sending him out on loan to safeguard his value before putting him in the shop window, it might seem strange to have an extension clause - unless that’s a safeguard against the loan being a failure, necessitating a further loan to drum up interest.

Leeds Live also reported that Leeds advised Bogusz that a loan move to Legia Warsaw, however successful, would not be sufficient to provide a way into the Leeds squad next season (though if he really wanted to go to Warsaw, they were prepared to sell him) and that the Spanish second league was considered better than the Polish league. Leeds Live suggested that both that advice and the refusal to insert a buyout clause for UD Ibiza indicated that the door was open for Bogusz to return. A cynic could of course suggest both could also help Leeds get a better transfer fee in due course.

Only time will tell, but Bielsa’s musings in August about loaned out players could perhaps suggest there is a possibility for players who really embrace the challenge and make a persuasive case for themselves.

5.) 24 Oct 2021 19:09:36
Thanks for the info Clu

I do really wonder if there is possibly another issue too : namely Bielsa perhaps being unimpressed by Bogusz ( possibly perceived "tantrum") in talking to the media in the summer about his frustrations at not being given a chance to play for LUFC 1st team

we have seen what has happened in the past very regrettably to Pablo and Pontus from alleged perceived "tantrums"

I have witnessed Bielsa give dozens of chances to Tyler Roberts with little to no success ; it's more than reached the point that I would love to have a goalscoring talented midfield player in Bogusz be given a chance ( instead of Roberts ) in LUFC 1st team squad/ bench.

6.) 24 Oct 2021 21:05:37
Baz - that is possibility, yes. If so, we can only hope that he makes such a compelling case throughout the rest of the season, that Bielsa is moved to view that indiscretion as merely the enthusiasm of youth and give him a second chance. It is just possible that, if Bielsa took exception to such comments, he has challenged him to knuckle down and prove just how much he wants and deserves that chance in the first team. Leeds Live’s report does suggest they feel Bogusz’s performance to date with Ibiza is indicative of a more focused approach by the lad.



23 Oct 2021 17:03:40
Get in and relief

Said it a few weeks ago that Gelhardt is very adept at winning penalties; he needs to be playing some part EVERY first team game

and pleased for Rodrigo to put away the pen

vital we didn't lose that game for morale and confidence

very happy with one point in the end.


1.) 23 Oct 2021 17:12:12
Baz can't disagree with anything you just said.

2.) 23 Oct 2021 17:25:59
Ditto Baz! GET INNNNN!

3.) 23 Oct 2021 18:41:09
Couldn't agree more Baz. We may look back saying it was the most important goal of the season.

4.) 23 Oct 2021 19:04:15
Any who who have watched u23 games knows if Gelhardt is in the box, leave him at you peril or bring him down at you risk, and he can shoot on target from range. Even prem ref and VAR had to give that one.



18 Oct 2021 22:00:25
Eduoard looking pretty useful with a good finish Palace drawing 2 2 without Zaha at Arsenal

hmm Leeds could really have done with Eduoard or someone like him along with Connor Gallagher also

Vieira has done quite well, bought well, Palace look better than last season.


1.) 19 Oct 2021 05:24:15
Agree Baz. don’t know why we weren’t looking at him, especially at that price.

2.) 19 Oct 2021 06:44:26
Baz Told you Palace would likely finish higher up the league than your prediction. Good side with Eze to return and the acquisition of Olise. The mistakes we've made in the window baffle.

3.) 19 Oct 2021 08:21:20
Very naive to think the midfield and strikers were adequate.
You must always always look to improve.

4.) 19 Oct 2021 10:28:38
You just always look to have backup. With our injury record over the last few years it was naive in the extreme to expect our first team to stay fully fit.



18 Oct 2021 17:38:26
For Leeds to avoid bottom 3, or certainly bottom 6 we need each and everyone of Raph, Bamford and KP playing in our EPL matches all season, not missing chunks of games, here's hoping!

Anyone have any news on Bamford and KPs injury latest?

Also Baby Shack looking good at RB but still think his energy, drive, tackling and pass completion would be even better suited and needed in CM ;

Bielsa needs to trust and play Drameh at RB, Baby Shack CM.


1.) 18 Oct 2021 18:35:04
Koch's issue has been resolved seemingly, just regain sharpness now next few weeks

Not 1 to goss but word online is Dallas issue is a domestic 1, hence being pulled from NI squad also for personal reasons

Something definitely up there

Hopefully Luke gets back soon enough, maybe he was carrying a bit of soreness since start of season, hence his poor form also?

Paddy's absence definitely highlights his worth to our 1st team, he never stops

We all knew Raph wasn't going to play Saturday, so why oh why did he bring him down? Here's hoping this slump has now ended, wolves are going to be buoyed up after Saturday.

2.) 18 Oct 2021 19:07:05
Thanks for the info/ updates Chris;

indeed getting Bambam aback asap is crucial, Leeds play so much better when he is in the side.

Also really hope and need Dallas and Harrison, who were fabulous for Leeds last season, can get over any issues/ loss of form this season asap

2020/ 2021 season Harrison, Dallas and Klich contributed to a lot of GOALS between them ( 20 GOALS AND 15 ASSISTS) Leeds need those sort of stats again from them this season!

3.) 18 Oct 2021 19:22:40
Raph flew into London so as close to go to Soton as Leeds and he was with his teammates.

Philips injury could be a complex one. Apparently it has aggravated his hip as well as affecting his calf so no return date yet. May be a while.

4.) 18 Oct 2021 20:59:49
Thanks Chris, if you are right then MB should tell the lad Go home, sort it out, get your head together and come back refreshed.

5.) 18 Oct 2021 21:12:50
Baz have you seen much of Drameh because I’m pretty sure MB has. Funny how some say we need to buy loads of players yet say we need to play the young lads on another thread?

6.) 18 Oct 2021 22:13:43
Yes Corky I have seen Drameh play plenty of times last season and this ; I think he could cope ( well) at RB in the first team

as for your other confused point, so what?

we are currently outside of a transfer window right now ( so can't buy anyone ) with a load of injuries including RB Ayling so yeah why not give Drameh a chance to play in the first team as I suggested at the moment ( he continues to be on the 1st team bench why not use him now at some point eh fella?! )

7.) 18 Oct 2021 22:49:38
Maybe that particular game Cork,

Just a thought, we were very very threadbare last Saturday.

8.) 18 Oct 2021 23:22:33
Chris - apparently Raphinha was keen to play Saturday, and the Club did all it could to make that an option. They shared with Chelski and Villa the cost of a private jet, with bedrooms etc to maximise the opportunity for recovery, to take Raphinha, Thiago Silva and Douglas Luiz to London - from where Raphinha was transported to the team’s hotel. On the day, Bielsa decided his recovery wasn’t sufficient and decided against the risk. Incidentally, Douglas Luiz started for Villa, and completed 67 minutes, and Emiliano Martinez, who played for Argentina on the Friday, played the whole match v Wolves, so it wasn’t the travelling that ruled out Raphinha, but the minutes and intensity of his play.

9.) 19 Oct 2021 06:47:09
Thanks for that Uncle Victor Clueless.



16 Oct 2021 17:51:28
Other than our BEST players in particular staying injury free : Does anyone have any other positives/ solutions for this season moving forward?

I wonder if my ole mucka Mr Hottub Axe ,

along with VO fave cheerleader Clueless

and Top 6 this season sure thing OP

will venture to give their views on the game and this season moving forward.


1.) 16 Oct 2021 19:07:01
We need to scrape enough points together this season to survive, then pray the youth come good for next season I think.

2.) 16 Oct 2021 19:24:33
But why should that be the case Alfie? A joke that a club wanting to increase the stadium to 50 k we have Adam Forshaw as our saving grace . Radz needs to wake up rapidly and get Victor to start finding a player or 3.

3.) 16 Oct 2021 20:01:59
BazVid, not seen the game. It wasn't televised so no idea how you have seen it and can give such a downbeat post

Or maybe it's just the results you look at?

As for how we change our fortunes. I am seeing PL football and exciting football, why do I want to change?

You're the one that's unrealistic.

4.) 16 Oct 2021 20:47:22
touchy Axey
dont forget to turn the hot tub up it seems it is on the cold side right now.

5.) 16 Oct 2021 21:03:18
The game was televised Axe any decent IPTV subscription had it, so your welcome fella 👍.

6.) 17 Oct 2021 00:01:01
Indeed. Get yourself iptv and you can see every game axe. Didn't make very good viewing sadly. Awful performance.




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27 Sep 2021 19:30:21
correct Alf
and he will go to a (much) BIGGER CL team.




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25 Sep 2021 21:03:15
he will go to a CL team end of.




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24 Aug 2021 18:18:40
georgey leave my lunchbox out of this lol.




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24 Aug 2021 18:17:28
who? Never heard of him or any previous bid for him Martyn by Leeds

so in this case Martyn you are seemingly off point with your catchphrase not again.




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16 Aug 2021 12:00:35
if Kane does go to Citeh for reported 150 million then Bambam must be worth 75 million ( as Kane is around twice as good as Bambam) lol.





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24 Oct 2021 19:09:36
Thanks for the info Clu

I do really wonder if there is possibly another issue too : namely Bielsa perhaps being unimpressed by Bogusz ( possibly perceived "tantrum") in talking to the media in the summer about his frustrations at not being given a chance to play for LUFC 1st team

we have seen what has happened in the past very regrettably to Pablo and Pontus from alleged perceived "tantrums"

I have witnessed Bielsa give dozens of chances to Tyler Roberts with little to no success ; it's more than reached the point that I would love to have a goalscoring talented midfield player in Bogusz be given a chance ( instead of Roberts ) in LUFC 1st team squad/ bench.




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24 Oct 2021 17:34:56
too late the Saudi Barcodes are buying Coops for £80 million plus.




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24 Oct 2021 16:14:20
hope so George.




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23 Oct 2021 17:18:43
indeed Brighty, well done Gelhardt and Summerville, hopefully Bielsa will give these guys lots of game time from now on this season.




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23 Oct 2021 17:09:20
yes that someone was I Brighty ; luck with injuries will be vital ; one point today relieved and on the plus side Geldhardt and Summerville playing their part

hopefully Raph will be fine / not out for long.