Leeds Banter Archive March 19 2016

 

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19 Mar 2016 22:10:57
Well I won't regurgitate what most people are saying. What worries me is when I try to think of which of our players are really essential to us making progress next season, no more than a couple of names are popping into my head. Depressing innit.

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20 Mar 2016 07:54:08
Would it be Silvestre, Coyle, Berardi, Taylor, Bridcutt, Diagouraga, Dallas and Cook? More than 2 speedy but we are woefully lacking. I wouldn't mind seeing Nigel Pearson get the job with a 25m summer war kitty.

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20 Mar 2016 09:15:59
I wouldn't mind me getting the job with that budget that would be mental money for us. I think to keep the Kat bardi, Taylor, cooper, mowat (good if used correctly) cook, Dallas (good enough but needs help in creative department) big Dave, bridcut, wood (will get better) douk for hard away games or bench options, caraoy (like to see more before really knowing) . I do think team has potential last three games did show that but needs more. Any team carrying Murphy, with one lazy CB and one crazy CB would struggle. Think yesterday looked worse that what things really are.

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20 Mar 2016 09:20:33
No George. Depressingly the goalie and Cook ( I know ) were not amongst them . Don't think Bridcutt ( and probably Cook) will stay, and didn't include Coyle as he's not fully broken through yet, but yes I would want him to stay .
My first two are Berardi and Taylor. Then it gets harder to pick any automatic starters imo.

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20 mar 2016 09:56:58
so your saying there all rubbish apart from two.

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20 Mar 2016 11:04:44
No oneleeds, I'm not saying they are all rubbish apart from two. What I do think though is that the rest are all ok at best ( good on their day many of them, but too inconsistent) . What we don't have, and I can't remember who was our last one - is a game changer. Someone who either has great pace and can cut through the opposition, or someone who is so tricky that it takes 3 defenders to watch him. I guess someone like we hoped Adryan was going to be. Funnily enough, and I don't think anyone has even mentioned him, I think we've missed Rudy Austin. OK, he was nothing special, but he did have that burst of pace and unpredictability that we are sadly lacking. Playing against us over the last few years is a gift to the other team because we are just so boringly predictable, and mediocre.

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20 Mar 2016 16:42:51
rudy was a power horse ok ran in a straight line but in for tackle and gave all best and as they say one always plays better with better player around i'd say solid player and the odd goal.

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19 Mar 2016 20:35:02
So, all u time to go massimo gang please explain how that performance has anything to do with cellino? You lot don't have a clue. Without cellino there would be no leeds united. The bloke has almost cleared our debts and leeds have stated spening money on players for the first time in a long time. One thing he does need to do is keep dipping in his pocket. But I personally think don't give evans any spending money. Time for big steve to go. Get a proven manager. yes manager not this head coach rubbish. a proven manager and let him come in with fresh eyes and give him the summer window to spend spend spend. Because clearly evans can't get us performing with any consistency. this is where leeds' troubles lie we just don't have the right bloke in the dressing room. we also clearly don't have the right blokes on the pitch. No heart. 29000 leeds fans watches as we crumbled to a team we should beat every week. I think its high timethat people show cellino some appreciation for keeping the team we all love alive. let's make a louder noise that the minority of the fans that are blinded. let's get behind him and show how thankful we are that we still have our beloved mighty whites.

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19 Mar 2016 21:13:08
Who would work under cellino? To be fair SE's signings have been ok. Bridget and Dave are solid, (when they play together) problem today was he picked the wrong team. For me Murphys time is up, we look toothless in mf when he's in it. Moat on the wing? NO NO and thrice no. He has little pace, can't go past players.
Missed a trick not putting caryol on today, sure he would have had a point to prove.
Weak in defence, lots of posts describing bellusci as a liability, trouble is he's the best cb we have. Bamba cannot deal with pace simple.

I remember when we had alex bruce and Neil collins. AB always was a decent cb but would make mistakes because he is too distracted by his less than capable partner.

Need a new QUALITY CB/ GK/ ST/ and a creative MF

For me we can get rid of; bamba; wooton; murphy; ant will probably go.

Roll on next season.

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19 Mar 2016 21:35:06
Agree 100% there was a big in mc we trust banner on Billy's today but that won't make papers most fans supported the banner and belittled the billboard over the road as sad and pathetic. You all know my views but I spoke to a lot of fans today and did not find anyone who disagreed with me. S e jury still out three wins did well but today was ver poor and odd choices also no one seemed to care which worries me as that comes from gaffer how're I am not baying for blood yet s e must learn from today and not do it again.

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19 Mar 2016 21:44:13
Snooker147, you answered yourself. You want to back Cellino, to show him appreciation, but on the other hand you want him to end head coach rubbish, to sign good manager, to spend money on players. The problem is that this are things which he will not do, he is unable to do so and that's why so many people want him sell the club.

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19 Mar 2016 22:24:51
Lajt. Mayb he has bigger fish to fry what with trying to get us out of a ridiculous debt. Rome wasn't built in a day. I know a decade out of top flight an we are all getting frustrated but I don't think that is cellinos fault. Without him we would be gone. Now we r starting to be in the black he needs to carry on splashing the cash. But get someone proven to come in and be the one to spend it. Someone with experience at building a team.

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20 Mar 2016 09:16:36
Good post snooker.

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20 Mar 2016 11:41:13
Snooker, the debts have grown since Cellino took over have increased. We owe more money than ever. He has got the deficit down to £2 million this year by juggling debt around. You don't want him to give Evan's any money. So are you saying Cellino has once again picked another dud. That will be 4 out of 4 then. You want him to spend spend spend. Will that not add to the debt we already have?

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19 Mar 2016 19:37:25
So we witness another gutless collapse in the middle of a game we should have walked.
I wondered why the team changed and come to the conclusion that SE is evaluating all his players in the match day situation.
If that is the case I for one would love to see his, and his management teams thoughts on certain players who are revered on here because they came through the system.
I have been waiting for such players to prove to me that they have what it takes this season and I am afraid I have been dissapointed.
Let me ask you, if we had bought Cook, Mowatt and Taylor for the kind of price we supporters put on them, would you be happy at their overall performances this season?
I would say yes to Taylor, but not the others. Both Cook and Mowatt have failed to move forward this season and if we were to be offered the big money everyone has talked about, I would take it and get in some quality experienced players to guide the next crop of goodies from the academy in the proper fashion.
Perhaps that is why I am not a footie manager!

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19 Mar 2016 20:09:09
You have a point there wakey if we paid the money some think they are worth we'd be calling for their heads.

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19 Mar 2016 20:37:15
Agree Taylor I really like cook has moments of pure class's and as potential could go all the way. I like mowat but this season has disappointed apart from few goals and maybe ten games. Main trouble for me is Bamba who is disgrace as captain he just don't care and bellichi who can be very good but is too much of a liability and will cost goals. Also only half my post come through from earlier I like douk and for me he was our best player today he works hard wins most in air or on ground and is handful. But douk is a bench option or hard away game ball holder upper not a match winner or 20 goal man. Ant is great and class but can also be anonymous so wood has come better next season and I think he will.

Se is a worry why he made changes and choices he made today make me wonder and worry for me today's choices would make me sack him and I have been behind is him. Bridcut and Murphy together at home? Changing things after 3 wins? Lack of width? Which is why mowat looks poor he is not a right winger.

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19 Mar 2016 21:21:13
I agree with most of your post BW, apart from your false hero worship of Antenucci. Yes he has class, unfortunately it's third class. I would bet that he wouldn't get in any other championship team. I rather think we may never agree on that one.
As I said earlier I think they are evaluating players to enable them to prepare their retained list for next season, hence the Murphy selection. I think he should go but therein lies the problem. I could make a case for all of the pale years going apart from one or two, but we know the club cannot do that, being as skint as a Kellingley miner. In short the players we have are well below standard for this league and the manager can only lead the horse to water, etc. Even the messiah Guardiola would have trouble making this lot into a successful side. So this manager or the new one has to find suitable recruits right throughout the team starting at No 1. We must get shut of that clown we call a goalie. It's not all about the shot stopping which people Romberg about him, it's about commanding the area, being able to catch from crosses and corners which instilling confidence it his defenders who are nervous wreck with him behind them.

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19 Mar 2016 21:29:18
I said it twice before. Nahki Wells should be the first we sign! He is a proven goalscorer. Bradford now Huddersfield. make Hudders an offer this summer!

PS: SE has overstayed his welcome. Its tome for a REAL MANAGER!

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19 Mar 2016 21:55:49
I agree, said after the Brighton display bamba should never play again . He's robbing a wage, he's absolutely hopeless at best and no inspiration at all . As regards the youngsters I think they're largely overrated. Cook is hardly Scholes. Mowatt is hardly giggs and Taylor is hardly neville if you want comparisons . We should cash in in the summer before the rest of the football world wakes up and realises they're not that good . I may be being a little harsh on Taylor, perhaps he has potential to be better than neville, but you get what I mean .

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20 Mar 2016 09:22:43
It's not complete hero worship for ant, I think he is top class and last few games showed he can score regularly and score good goals and is a game winner, however yesterday showed his other side where I might of well of been playing as he didn't nothing and left douk on his own to work hard. So for me ant is 50/ 50 great when good useless when bad. I don't think the Kat can be blamed for yesterday, the defence is static and don't know if it is zonal or man marking I would keep Kat and get two new cb's as I think the problem is with them and not keeper although this part of his game ain't great, if this part was great he would not be at Leeds but juventus as he would be top top class. I think mowat looks worse than what he is due to not being used correctly, how would. Scholes of looked if played on right wing? I still think cook is best youth product since Delph and Taylor very good at this level.

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19 Mar 2016 18:43:22
Hang on to your hats we got warnock next! God!

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20 Mar 2016 14:59:14
How? I thought we have ex Leeds JFH next.

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19 Mar 2016 18:42:28
Yes bw! It's your fault lol! Forget Cellino out its BW OUT! Pmsl if I had the money bw I would get a banner on the Mile End road! Lol.

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19 Mar 2016 20:37:58
Hire out the electric billboard that would be great and I'd go half on price for that.

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19 Mar 2016 18:39:58
Bellichi is class but hold of been sent off for two yellows no question about it and passing is either great or wayward. The double roll skill 4-1 down is insult to fans. Sol should be stripped of captaincy he just don't care or try. Whole team is bad on set pieces and can't defend as team.

Bit miffed with team why did fat man change it? Why play Murphy and bridcut both too defensive at home. Murphy only passes sideways.

Mc we trust banner was outside nothing to do with me but nice to see it get good support and the billboard opposite mc out was little embrassing and waste of money imo people have more money than sense.

I will also say this I have seen two games in last month 750 miles traveled, over 500 pound spent 8 conceded 1 for. 0 points but I would rather see my beloved team lose than be anyone else. We all love Leeds and mot even after that just wish some of the players cared as much as us. Still think we are going in right direction.

Finally my little girl loved it and had few pictures with Lucas seeing her love it sing and get involved was well worth the pain of watching us fall apart.

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19 Mar 2016 18:49:39
Good for you mate! Your little girl will have great memory's forget the result a great day for her top man bw!

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19 Mar 2016 20:29:15
Awesome BW well Said my man, although the performance in the second half was a bit 💩 still love my club till the the day I take my last breath, had a great day meeting up with many friends from Leeds and Norway in the peacock, shame the football let it down 😂 still, I'll be back for more pain soon my fellow leeds sufferers, peace people Regards Dj 😎.

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19 Mar 2016 20:45:42
I always look at it as family you have to be behind good and bad, I was Leeds when we won league and I met players, I was Leeds when yeboha scored them goals, I was Leeds when we lit up prem and champs league, so I am also Leeds when we get relegated twice, when we lose in fa cup to pretend team and when we get pulled apart by huddles field (twice now I have seen them beat us at er) Bamba and bellichi offend me because they don't care all I ask is the players hurt like I do when we lose but I will forgive lack of talent and mistakes as I do with family. I do think se needs to think about choices he made today he was not good enough if he don't learn he needs to go but he has also done well and made me cheer so we need to remember that as well.

Like with family I would not change anything and will always love Leeds and back them rather a Leeds loser that winner with another club. That kind of mentality should be saved for Arsenal fans. mot

Also ant was disappointing today he goes missing which is annoying as he can be so good. Douk was class today for me gave everything won 90% of everything and was handful, I would like better but hope we keep him as option/ sub but will forgive any short comings when he performs like he did today. So bad day today lads but good days will come so let's get behind team they need us more when times are hard, just like family.

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20 Mar 2016 09:24:31
No I have sobered up and take it back. I am now a man city fan and my little girl will have to learn to love the alien mascot or what ever it is ment to be and learn what ever man city's song is. I assume it is Abbas money money money.

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19 Mar 2016 18:19:28
We've been solid for the last few games with cook and dig (however you spell it) , was there a reason to leave them both on the bench? were they injured, or did we just get complacent?

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19 Mar 2016 18:33:15
The latter, welcome to the new tinkerman!,

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19 Mar 2016 20:47:03
Not sure if s e is thinking about options for next year or just messed up but would be happy to never see Murphy Bamba or bellichi play for us again, cooper is our best CB surely? This area needs looking at and bit more passion.

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19 Mar 2016 18:15:59
I'm sure Evans is not happy to be using this squad and doing his best with a bad lot we have some alright players and some not so good but we know this season is over I think we should stick with Evans let him bring in some more of his own players.

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19 Mar 2016 19:40:53
Evans had a team that won 3 games on the run and decided to change it? Durrr?

Why change a team that is starting to gel, and you still want him here and wanting him to bring others in?

Check the stats, how often has this guy actually played the same 11 players?

Get rid and get someone who doesn't keep yapping to the media but gets on with his job.

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19 Mar 2016 20:12:34
A few weeks ago on this forum people were saying we have nothing to lose this season and wanting Evans to experiment with the squad now people are saying he shouldn't be changing.

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20 mar 2016 10:02:56
yes but i think we all thought some of u21's.

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19 Mar 2016 17:57:52
Ooooooooppppppppsssss! Lol never mind I've been watching my fantastic club for for near on fifty years so to all the newbies on the block A BIG WELCOME TO SUPPORTING LEEDS! Frustration is never far away ⚽️🔫😩.

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19 Mar 2016 17:47:31
Think 2nd place is out of reach now and it's all Bermondsay's fault!

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19 Mar 2016 18:30:37
Fools blaming mc or she or even the team it is clearly all my doing from now on I am a dog bothering town fan and will hate it as Leeds will go up without me stopping them I am super bock to all Leeds fans I am genuinely very very sorry I shall never go anywhere near we again I promise.

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19 Mar 2016 17:04:03
So what happened? Why did we win the other 3 and not this one? Defence, attack, moral courage? SE goes from hero to zero again - is it time for a change - again? I don't think so - yes we are peed off yes we are gutted - 1st 43 minutes everyone was happy (ish) . Let's see out the season And not bay for blood - just yet. I wasn't there today as I'm flying out of the country so I can't give comment on the performance - was it that bad (result aside) . MOT.

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19 Mar 2016 17:34:56
Wise words but as the old adage goes, you don't change a winning team. got worries when I saw murphy in the starting 11. Offers nothing. Bamba struggles against attacks with pace every time. and as we know silvestri?!, if only we could bring him on for penalties and have a specialist gk for corners, his failure to command his area at set pieces was one has to say very well exploited by wagner ( come a long way since x-factor) I digress.
MC needs to spend big on players in summer and start work soon after season is over, if he wants ST holders to renew.

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19 Mar 2016 19:04:38
With the current torrent of abuse do you think he will invest? I think he is a man with an ego that needs to be massaged and a wanting to belong - I think we would make far more ground if people stop having a pop, unite behind the staff and team. I know people get mad but sometimes you have to tickle a dogs belly and feed it what it needs in order get it to behave and perform. I am a proud man and I know how I react when anyone comes at me or has a pop at my family - I certainly don't go away.

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19 Mar 2016 20:51:51
Think both cb's need hanging bell plays for himself and should of been sent off his passing and final ball is not as good as I thought and always at fault on set plays and is a mistake waiting to happen. q Bamba as captain is disgrace nit once did he lead today and is just iffy. Rest of the team is ok I think just formation and selection today was baffling to the point of if Se makes the same mistake again (plays Murphy and bridcut in same team) no width with mowat as winger I would sack him, q tinker find out try and fail but don't fail twice when it is that simple a mistake and that poor a choice.

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19 Mar 2016 16:55:19
Back to earth with a bang the moaning starts in an instant.

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19 Mar 2016 16:50:45
What a shower of excrement! Sack the lot of emails Inc evans.

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19 Mar 2016 16:47:27
Well, it is a spanking!
Normal service resumed.
TBH, out of the 3 wins on the trot it was only the last game we looked half decent in.
Evans is not the man to take us forward. There must be a good young coach out there that wants to make a name for himself. Don't know who but that's not my job to find him.
I'm just getting so fed up of wasting my emotions on this shower of excrement!

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19 Mar 2016 17:35:50
Only a spanking if we win, btw I think i'll stop trying to predict the score.

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19 Mar 2016 16:46:39
What happened? .

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19 Mar 2016 17:38:45
Steve Evans. enough said?

Why break up a winning team? DOW!

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19 Mar 2016 16:44:10
. It.

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19 Mar 2016 15:34:51
4 on the bounce good man Dallas.

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19 Mar 2016 15:04:48
Sooner this Massimo out shower spend their 7 grand the better when they have an alternative to offer I might see what they have to say until then would prefer they put an end to this charade.

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19 Mar 2016 15:23:45
Wex and one.

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19 Mar 2016 15:33:53
Wex and one?

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19 Mar 2016 10:11:26
starting a score predictions thread, and given that we haven't properly spanked anyone this season I feel today is the day. i'm going 4-1 to the mighty whites.
confidence is high, ant/ duke/ mow/ bellusci to score, . who cares who gets theirs.
nearly 30k there today I think should be a good atmosphere for a change, been a bit flat last few home games.
MOT.

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19 Mar 2016 10:30:44
4-1s not a spanking PU. 😁
I'm going for 6-1 (we'll let them have one) . Wood 2, Ant 1, Mowatt 2, one own goal, and they'll get a player sent off in the first half!
And the winning lottery numbers for tonight are . 😉.

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19 Mar 2016 10:34:59
if we get 4-1 I'm calling it a spanking, I do hope your right though.

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19 Mar 2016 12:13:58
Yes will be there and I'm guessing a crowd of 29350 ( son and I always play guess the crowd/ score at around 1.30 to make it fair, well he is 12 so doesn't have the advance info on the crowd but I did tell him it was going to be big) .

Hudd are a funny team, seem to create a lot but miss chances and very open at the back, especially away from home so I can see them scoring, I'm going for 3-1 and it may be pretty close in terms of general play but hopefully to make it 4 wins on the bounce would put us in the top 3 in terms of current form going into the break which would be an achievement for sure.

Can't see us spanking but you live in hope of a good spanking. or 2 ha ha.

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19 Mar 2016 17:39:46
Well it was 4-1, well done - NOT!

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19 Mar 2016 17:49:57
Lol! Oops.

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19 Mar 2016 02:19:01
My two penny's worth on below posts
Agree forristri would have been a good buy and we would be higher up league
Agree with ausman and BW that larry suffers from vertigo!
Can only imagine bw was being humourous when he posted we would be higher if wood had played more. Soooooo funny. Giggled for an hour. In public too!
Agreed with grip about something or other
Can't make my mind if I'd rather catch up with mm and BW in spoons in Leeds in England? Or kick back in the bar on the marina by the Indian Ocean in Mandurah in Australia? Tough one!

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19 Mar 2016 20:54:06
You would rather be on beach and drinking in hot weather than in spoons followed by that performance you fool!

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18 Mar 2016 23:04:33
Hi guys I am back. I decided to take break from the forum because the forum was very negative. But now Leeds are on a good run I think and hope everyone will be positive again. So as for Dog botheres tomorrow in there cup final in a big derby I think that with recent good form and good performances I think we should and will beat Huddersfield comfortably. 2 0 With Goals from Douk and Aunty Lucy. Saying that I have a feeling we could hammer them but that is just a feeling and realistically I think we will beat them 2 0. I would go with the same side who got that good win away at Blackburn ( With no fresh injury concerns. ) So glad to be back on the site and read the opinions of all you great people ( Well most of you! Only Kidding. ) We have to beat Huddersfield village tomorrow I have Mates who are Village fans and I will never hear the end of it after they won their Cup final. So c'mon You Whites let's hammer Hudders and take the Derby spoils and keep our slim chance of the playoffs alive. And have the best season we possibly can have. As the great Jedi Master's of Alcoholism said long ago in a Spoon's far away Up the Whites Down the Pints. MOT!

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{Ed007's Note - Welcome back, Stan.}