Leeds Banter Archive March 06 2013

06 Mar 2013 22:36:33
I keep reading about "reaching the play-offs" as if its some guaranteed achievement of success. No its not. Its a guarantee to play in a mini competition of four clubs. That's all.

Success comes if you actually win that competition. And that means being better than those three other clubs. that's where reality sets in: are we better?

Based on our present performance, no. And that's despite the Leicester result. We can't score. Simples.

Rubbish. you only have to look at when leeds got to the league 1 playoffs when doncaster beat us to see that we made a boat load of cash due to the play off ticket and tv revenue. IF we got into the playoffs we'd make some good money, especially if we got to the final (regardless of actually winning it)

Must admit I have a bit more confidence in the team based on their last four games, but unfortunately I also feel we have left it too late to even reach the playoffs.

If we do manage to get there, though, I'd put money on Leeds winning!

My thoughts exactly. I think we are looking hard to beat at present and would fancy our chances home and away against any other team but I think it's maybe a bit too late. However, a result at Palace and after that there's 4 very winable games, so you never know!

Original poster here. My definition of success is getting into the Prem. Nothing less. Earning dosh is not my idea of success under the present regime.
PJC

06 Mar 2013 21:57:44
Im still unsure about NW. Should he stay or should he go? In some ways its been a decent season. No cash but still on fringes of playoffs. Could easily have a good few more points on board, but suppose every club would say the same! He brought Byram through and stuck with him even after the odd dodgy game. However sometimes I think he hasn't got a clue and totally wings it. Some very strange team selections and subsitutions, not to mention certain buys. Hall and Habibiou! What the f***. WHY did he buy them? Maybe they not good enough now but for the future, I doubt that cause he be long gone and won't give a rubbish. So makes me wonder has he got a clue at all? Final answer I think. He knows his stuff and really wanted to do the biz at our club but sometimes things just don't work. Reckon he tried his best to get us up but has been totally hamstrung by two inept boards. Maybe, just maybe, he will get us promoted and 87% of fans will retract what they have said and realise that NW has always tried his best for LEEDS UNITED and will be a LEEDS UNITED legend. ! F*** I hope so! MOT

Never- warnock has cost promotion this year. Have the players but no leader.

07 Mar 2013 12:19:00
Had the takeover of been sorted out before the start of the season Warnock would of got us promoted this season. The players we released and loaned out in January would of been moved on in the summer which would of given us the wages to get our team together. I say give Warnock another chance if he wants 1. Maybe first 10 games

Think you got it spot on mate. Warnock has proved he can get teams up although you wonder how with some strange decisions this season. But he has put all his heart into our promotion bid and the board hasn't helped our chances. Still think we can do it though!

If we don't get promoted he should and will go

06 Mar 2013 18:36:55
We are not playing badly but not good enough to overtake the teams that will finish in the top six. We might overtake a couple but not enough to get beyond that. Not been negative just voicing my assessment. Would love to be wrong and I will be still cheering the lads on and not calling for the manager to go etc etc. Unfortunately some mistakes have been made with team selection, substitutions and player signings. Just a thought - if we had brought in Habbibou and Hall, who don't play could we have brought in Burke who certainly would?

06 Mar 2013 19:46:38
We will make it we have a decent run of fixtures its the first time we have had a string of decent performances this season. Other teams just above have got to play each other and Brighton and Middlesbrough will bottle it. Forest are the team to watch now they have Davies back as manager as he is good at motivating players. We have Brighton to play and expect to win them

Haha forest? they'll get complacent with Billy 'Job done' Davies in charge

06 Mar 2013 17:32:07
We need to bring diouf on to finish games off. He's very good at keeping the ball in the corner and also getting freekicks. Don't know why he's not getting much game time

Suddenly he's not Warnocks favourite again. must be slacking in training, or Neil lied about him when he was desperate for players.

Because he has'nt got a f***ing clue, it took him three quarters of the season to work out to put players in their right position! As for Hall & Haribo oh f**k it rant over I give up.

Question
Name one thing that warnock has intentionally done that has worked.
Answer?
Suggestion
Close the door behind you - that would work!

06 Mar 2013 15:50:29
yes we are playing better but we have played blackpool, diving down the league, blackburn, doing the same and beaten at home by peterborough.
millwall, in awful form and even beaten by wolves and leicester, not in great form, beaten 3 of last 5 inc ipswich game before us.
on saturday we are playing a form team in palace. beat them and il start to believe again. we have good run of fixtures then with watford away last game the hardest probably.
and some players need to look at themselves. 2 players last night retweeted fans tweets saying how good they were. one was ross.
ross you don't tweet when you have missed crucial chances to give us points. beccs would have finished them. I suggest you don't tweet at all, especially bigging yourself up when youve had an average season. shrew leeds

06 Mar 2013 16:11:16
I thought we beat peterborough? Ah well how's opposite world?

Yes it was very dissapointing to see us concede the last minute goal but if we're disappointed at a draw with Leicester then surely that is a positive, after palace where I do think we may sneak the 3 points we have a good list of games where we should collect maximum points from which would build up momentum for our last two games which are quite tricky. Brighton will start dropping points as they have quite a hard list of games coming up, their forward is injured and last night they didn't even take a shot so we should still keep positive as it is still in our reach to make playoffs.

I ment blackburn where we drew then lost to peterborough at home next game.
yes we still have a chance but people on here carried away with few results but its the 30 games before we haven't performed in. shrew leeds

How can this fan comment when he does not even know who we have played, I bet he has never even been to Leeds!!!

No guys he means Blackburn lost at home to Peterborough. Read it again it does make sense but badly written. JD

Yes thank you, some people don't know enough abut football to know Blackburn lost at home to Peterborough week after we only drew. to the silly post about going to Leeds, I've attended over 1000 matches, stick to your homework. shrew leeds

Yes badly written, I ment after we drew at Blackburn they then lost at home to Peterborough following week. not Leeds, blackburn

Actually the other week Ross did tweet about missing a sitter and did an interview apologising to Warnock, so go get a valid point. He is a confidence player and just low at the minute and you say becchio would finish it whenever they played together Ross would comfortably outscore him.

Peterborough beat Cardiff at Cardiff by your logic should everyone in the playoff race be beating Cardiff at their place? Just because one team has beaten them at home doesn't mean that we should.

06 Mar 2013 13:01:02
How come we seem to sign players that can't make an immediate impact? I mean Warnock was only saying the other day that there's no use in signing players in the loan market if they are not better than we already have. Well why bloody sign the likes of Habibou, Hall and I'd even go as far as including Morison in this equation as for me despite becchio not fitting the Warnock mould at least he knew where the net was. To me the squad we have has not been utilised to the maximum and we should be higher up the table. Players played out of their natural positions, subs not being used correctly when players on the pitch aren't doing it. Yes Warnock may not have been given the funds that he may have been promised, but the money he has had he has wasted on players that don't even get a game and are not being used. It will be interesting on Saturday when we are into our 3rd game within a week if he decides to rest any players and use fresh legs.

liverlass

Exactly. It's alright bringing in prospects as long as your squad also contains players who can do it right now. We were in need of a couple of signings to make the difference. A winger, another striker ( in addition to Becchio's replacement) who could make a telling contribution, a full-back and possibly a central midfielder. That's the reality of where we were at. We make Tonge's deal permanent, who then doesn't start for the next month. Hall is isn't or ne'er will be ready to play. Hibbibou the same. Warnock was a good signing. Morison. Not convinced. Where was the new winger and supplementary striker? A ball playing CM? NW talked constantly about getting to Jan and then getting the players to make the difference. But we didn't. Perhaps if we had we may have won games like last night.

06 mar 2013 12:36:44
dundee white here. seem to be loads of negative posts 2day, i for one think we have a realistic chance of a playoff place look at our run in then look at those we are trying to catch i'm 100% sure they would swap. win our home games which we certainly can gives us 71point pick up 2points in away games which is not out of the question that's 73 with teams around us having to play eachother 73 would do it maybe even 72 points. and who knows we might even pick up that away win. our defence is the best it"s been all season i'm sure those up front can do what's needed goals wise. come on back the boy we are not out of it loads of points to play for and 7 count it 7 home games and we are rubbish hot at home m. o. t. dundee whites

Really trying to keep the faith regarding the playoffs, however whilst I agree that our defense is the best it's been all season, it may just be too little too late. To be this late on in the season and nearly have a winning formula is a travesty. The more away games that we don't win only puts more pressure on us to get results at home. Although we have a good record at home please don't take that as points already in the bag.

06 Mar 2013 12:17:29
A good result yesterday, really. I think the taken point will be very essential when we�re summing this season up. We still have to win our home games not easy but achievable. Than we have to win against charlton ipswich and brums away. Will make 77 points and play-offs. We�re really 3 points ahead of schedule and maybe 74 will be enough. We still can lose on Saturday but I don�t think we will.
MOT Hold on to Neil.

Warnock until the end of the season then a change for a younger current manager who will use his subs and play people in their rightful positions, plus not take nearly all season the find the best formula.

Hold onto warnock? that's what I miss about living in leeds. A sense of humour.

06 Mar 2013 09:35:13
Morning all, could someone please explain why we have signed Habibou on loan when the lad isn't getting the opportunity to show us what he is made of. We signed him on loan with option to buy in the summer, if we need people to keep ther seats on the bench warm then ill come and sit there for a few games

The Jyg

Cos he's useless. Normally you can tell within minutes wether a player is good enough and in the 20 mins he was on in his debut proved my point. JD

Same goes for Ryan Hall

Then why did Warnock buy him in the first place? Did he just make sure he had two legs and a head?

06 Mar 2013 12:39:53
i think with the loan fee been so low warnock wasn't bothered about giving habibou first team games. maybe warnock will use him as a secret weapon in the playoffs when we get there. they will get games if we lose more than 2 games as we will probably struggle to reach playoffs

Original poster here, surely the management and scouts would have looked at habibou before signing him, we didn't just pick names out of a hat did we

the jyg

06 Mar 2013 08:04:09
If we can get a result against Palace, we are in a good place for the last few games.
All the teams around us have to play each other, and we only have Palace (A), Watford (A) & Brighton (H) In the top 10.

06 Mar 2013 09:33:48
I expected to get a draw against Leicester and palace before last nights game but a win last night would of taken the pressure off for the palace game. We really need to learn how to hold on to a game.

We haven't been able to defend a lead for years. Everytime I can remember a leeds player trying to waste time by corner flag instead of attacking the result is the other team score. Lesson? Attack!

06 Mar 2013 07:39:32
Happy with recent point tally, even if we should have got 3 last night
So. Goals? Where are they going to come from?
Morrison varney and mac should be able to muster a goal between tbem, they are all strikers aren't they! Get paid to score do t they? i'm not saying they are not good players but we have other options! Diouf. Habi and hall. One or two of them must be worth a run out against cardiff.
That is not criticism just opinion.
This is criticism
Will somebody either get rid of warnock or help him. He is absolutely clueless, stumbled on this formation and now hasn't got a clue what to do from here. Does he know what squad means? Even last 10-20 minutes, bloody do something man. Jesus, what a wazte of money he is.
Well done lads and keep it up. Just a few more goals woukd be goid.

05 Mar 2013 23:46:47
Fed up of hearing how we are missing Becchio, he's gone an d isn't coming back so why keep on bleating about it. The strikers may not be scoring right now but performances and results are both improved since he left so tell me how we're worse off. Give Morison a chance and encouragement as he's our player now because he wanted to play for us and Becchio didn't or maybe we want to add him to the list of players we'll criticise and destroy. he's got more pace, movement, a better touch and link up play and needs to be given a chance. The only leeds players I want to support are the ones who are still at the club, take away Becchios penalties this year and he was hardly prolific. Mot

Colin! it don't matter how they go in they are all Goals & until Morison has done double figures he don't deserve respect! All these moaners " all he does is score goals!" that's what he is paid to do! without Bechio's goals to date where exactly would we be? huh.

I agree. One or more of our strikers need to er score goals. Its how you win on a regular basis. Everybody needs to earn tveir doe. Weve supposedly got 4 out and out strikers and 3 attacking wingers. One or more of them must be in form.

How the hell can you come out with a comment that Morison doesn't deserve respect until he has scored double figures. He's only played 4 or 5 games. For heavens sake what a stupid post. JD

It's called proving yourself he will have had half a season to reach double figures, he does that he gets respect, simple! after all the "DUD" Bechio managed 19 in half a season so it's possible! that's how I justify it! SWurely a "future Legend" can reach double figues in half a season?

What about Varney Diouf and McCormack then. Don't they warrant any respect. They've all had much more than half a season and they haven't reached double figures. JD

Goods question, however they were'nt swapped for a player who was doing the buisness for us yet claimed to be a "dud" diouf has done it at the top level! deserves respect! Varney ( jury's still out ) Ross McC done it b4 + as all 3 tend to put the effort in more so tham Mm Morison!