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21 Jun 2015 09:32:02
Can anybody tell what is going on with sol bamba this seams to be dragging on to me all week are linked with is free transfers and swap are we not going to spend any money it don't look great at the moment

Halifax white

1.) 21 Jun 2015 10:19:04
was just thinking the same. Strange that all the youngsters are getting signed up except Sam.


2.) 21 Jun 2015 12:32:55
Bamba is supposedly a done deal, just waiting for him to get back from holiday to sign the paperwork and do a press announcement, etc.
As for Byram the rumours are that a contract has been tabled so it could be one of a few things holding it up. We could be waiting for him to get back too, he could be waiting to see if we accept an offer from a prem club or there is just some back and forth between the club and his agent about terms (I'm guessing he will at least want a hefty pay rise if we won't let him go to a prem team and maybe some assurances of us going up in the near future). If he doesn't sign soon though I think he is probably going to go what with supposed offers of £6-8m been touted it wouldn't be worth letting him run down his contract.


3.) 21 Jun 2015 16:50:22
I thought Bamba could electronically signed the contract? This would suggest that the contract had not been signed for whatever reason and the longer this goes in is worrying as it would suggest he might be waiting for other offers.

With Sam Byram, I can't imagine him running his contract down, he'll either sign a new deal or go. Whatever he decides will be good for Leeds. £5-£6m if re-invested would bring quality into the squad or Sam on a new deal would be great for the team and show Cellino's intent. Let's wait and see.

MM


4.) 21 jun 2015 17:14:07
he's signed salerno told me himself . i think he's either on holiday or some kind of red tape why they can't confirmm it offially but he has signed for leeds


5.) 21 Jun 2015 23:47:52
Yeah I did see something about Bamba maybe signing electronically but he could have already done that and they don't wanna announce it till they can get him to ER to do a press conference (bit of an anticlimax to do one a week after) especially as if he signs he has to be prime candidate for captain for the season doesn't he? Could also be waiting for a work permit maybe? don't know if he qualifies as an EU citizen tbh. Just seems to be too many sources saying its basically done for it not to happen.


 

 

17 Aug 2014 21:29:03
Sam byram 8 million done deal from a good contact tried to get conner wickem in the deal but wages too high Noz from halifax

Halifax white

1.) 17 Aug 2014 21:57:22
Bet he gets an England cap within the year, best of luck to him.


2.) Good deal and good luck to him. happy with 8m. I do think Sam is not that good and will not make cut for England. think he shone in average team not a top end prem player or england player


3.) It's not true it's a fake account on fb that as started is Sam is not going


4.) Think we should be doing cartwheels if we can get 8 million
Not good selling our young home grown players but he's not shone for over 12 months.
Very good money and think he is a million miles from being England class.
However good luck Sam.


5.) Can't find this anywhere on the news or OS
is it confirmed?


6.) Confirmed by the Hock that Byram is staying at Leeds


 

 

24 Jun 2014 21:34:05
Heard that Cellino wants all Leeds players to take a big wage cut this can not be good if this is true I am wanting him to get better players who is going to want to come to Leeds if wages are going to drop this has come from a family member of one of the Leeds players that I think is on his way out not been with us long

Halifax white

1.) If that's the case why the hell did he buy the club in the first place


2.) He bought the club to make it a profitable business and make money from it is my guess? On the players taking a cut, so nobody thinks hunt on 25k a week should warrant a pay cut? Or any of the other chumps who can't string a pass together or most of the time don't look as they can be that bothered to be on the park?


3.) 25 Jun 2014 09:27:11
Been banded around loads since filling got us under his dictatorship but hey a contract is a contract And not even he can do anything except sell em


4.) Spain
You've been on the site long enough to have noticed at least 20 posts Hunt ain't on 25k mate he was mixed up with another player by MC.
Regarding cutting wages if our players are on double what the sheff windy players are on don't it make sense?
The club has to be run to FFP rules or get fined, are even worse points deducted (who knows)


5.) When a club is loosing a million a month, is it surprising to see the "Man who foots the bill" cutting costs. The majority of those losses re of course players wages. Shut this, reduce staff here and there, appoint a "Cheap Option" coach, these things are only minor amounts. FFP means club can lose up to 6 million ( which Owner can make up ), but hey, MC didn't buy LUFC to plough in 6 million extra a year oer and above what he needs to.


6.) 25 Jun 2014 11:56:52
cellino said in the press conference due to ffp laws he can only invest a certain amount of money on players so he has to look at other ways to free money,
if that means players who don't do enough to earn their highg wages taking pay cuts then so be it, i'm sure they would rather take a pay cut so better players can come into the club than still be over paid and unsuccessful .
better to be a average paid prem player than a high paid champ player


7.) 25 Jun 2014 11:58:40
The reality is that Cellino can't reduce anyones contract without the individual agreeing to it. The quickest way to destroy moral is to reduce wages, the only hope he has is to offer incentives in return so potentially they could earn more if they or the team perform. I am sure that every team in the English leagues wants to reduce players wages, doesn't mean it will happen!


8.) I don't think reducing a wage from 25k to 24k would damage my morale :-)


9.) Any re negotiation of contracts will have to be agreed by the players and their agents. I can't see very many agreeing to this personally. However justified it may be but with what they have been though already last season with half wages and even no wages being paid it could be very destructive. Sadly I think from his rhetoric MC hopes to create what he appears to have had in Cagliari this being part of something greater . I love the sentiment but the harsh reality in the UK is over inflated wages not to mention Ego's and greedy agents alongside protection of employment rights through the PFA and other governing bodies. Some of which I expect will be new to MC. I hope this is a new ERA of success and not just austerity. #MOT


10.) Andy ok not 25k but however much he is on its too much and a pay cut is deserved.


11.) Doubt all players are being asked to take a pay cut. Warnock's signings will be on ridiculous sums, what with him having shared an agent with them.


12.) Spain
Totally agree and I don't think ANY player last season including Ross deserved 25k a week. A few might not like the last comment but i'm basing MY opinion on some weeks even RM didn't look interested and if I was paying anyone that amount I'd want 100% effort/commitment every week ;)


13.) 25 Jun 2014 14:54:10
If I was offered a grand a week less than hunt my morale would be totally shattered!


14.) How much is the Club paying MC's 2 kids to be directors? How much is the Club paying in interest to finance the loans he took on to buy it. You can escape ffp rules by buying out debt or investing in facilities you know - you don't need to keep paying them out of the clubs books!


15.) Realitycheck you keep saying this but I can find no evidence of it so I need to clarify. You think MC borrowed money to buy LUFC?

i think part of the purchase price of LUFC was included the loans that GHF made. This is not the same as him having to borrow money himself to buy the club. In fact he does state the money used to buy the club his is and his families. Where is the breakdown of the sale? Can you show me this or is this just you with the doom and gloom?


16.) The funny thing is you all believe the OP, has anyone else heard that he wants ALL players to take a wage cut, its made up nonsense


17.) I believe that M C wants at least 5-6 players to go, Steward being one currently being connected with Charlton and Ipswich.
What ever Hunt is on is to much in my books .
No he can not reduce someone's wages but do they want to play football? Or not .


18.) Realitycheck mc didn't take out loans to buy lufc where did u get that from pal
MOT


19.) Ok Guys - This is out there - the sofa in May gave a good breakdown of it. Some may argue that there are staged payments; however they are liabilities attracting interest - effectively loans.

MC has paid £6M for Leeds, through his family company Eleonora Sports Limited. Leeds United Holdings therefore owe ESL at least £6M plus whatever other money he will have put in to cover costs. It will not be clear until the accounts are published, but rest assured that there will probably be about 10% interest applied to that loan.

The Club is valued by GFH at £45M - therefore MC's purchase of 75% must be in the region of £33M. (Other interested parties wanted to pay in the region of £6M - maybe a better valuation?) There will be some agreed payments, but all outstanding payments will be attracting interest. So of the £33M selling price, £27M is secured against the 75% holding of ESL, and will be accruing interest. There is another £5M due by the end of this year, but payments beyond that are not clear. So effectively Leeds United holding's biggest creditor is GFH and as a bank they will be expecting interest on that loan (probably around 10%). Even when the payments to GFH are made, these will be in the form of a loan from ESL to LUH and the Club will pay interest on these.

I suspect that MC's original hold up in passing the fit a proper test was not about his court case - it was about clarity on where funds were coming from and being secured it the future - remember - it was about 'documents not being provided' - nothing about pending court cases.

MC has said that he is using family money. But he also said he was buying and investing when he got hold of the Club - I am still waiting.

Spin it whatever way you want - Leeds United now have an overhead liability to pay interest on MC's purchase of the Club of about £33M - say £3M pa, and he has saddled us with that liability. That really affects the Club when it comes to ffp. Of course ESL may be giving us the loans interest free -only annual accounts will tell us that.


20.) Reality check, MC has invested his own money/family funds to save LUFC from garaunteed termination. He has had to come up with good amounts of money to pay certain creditors to stop LUFC from going into administration then insolvency. When it has come to it he has Clicked his fingers and puff! Debts were paid. Just because he hasn't gone crazey and told every would be seller that he willing to pay any price ect does not justify the abuse and total bull that some people seem to slander him with. This guy is a business man and he has come here with the intention of putting Leeds back up there and if he needs to do some in house cleaning and getting rid of staff/grounds ect that makes no sense in keeping . Then it makes total business sense. God sake lufc has had 12 years of utter carp being done that has only damaged Leeds due to Debts and spending money we didn't have and that has been the problem. So if a guy comes in and does a total different approach and really turns Leeds into a good healthy business . Then he has my full backing. We should of learnt our lessons that spending money we don't have can only bring us trouble


21.) Realitycheck I have also read this from the sofa but you are actually quoting from conjecture. As in your copy and paste it uses 'rest assured there will probably be about 10% interest' that is just making it up as you go along with no actual proof.

As is the next paragraph absolutely no basis for truth.

This is just the 'sofa' dicks coming looking at 2+2 and getting 10. It is all conjecture but now I see where you get your crap info from. Until you can show me an actual breakdown of the deal you are just making it up.

As truthchatter says a bill needs paying and puff it is paid. please stop saying the guy has no money. You have no idea what he has and doesn't have.


22.) Forbes estimates Cellino's net worth to be around £750 million. That would be a figure gleaned from analysis of his businesses and property by people actually qualified to perform that analysis.
Realitycheck estimates Cellino's net worth to be about £7.50. That would be a figure gleaned from reading the odd ranting webpage written by some bloke who heard something down the pub from his mate who might work in a warehouse but 'knows what he's talking about'.
Realitycheck, I work in the City of London at something called an investment bank and doing a quick check on Cellino's businesses show that the guy runs them well with good levels of operating capital and low running costs. That's the view of city analyst firms. If you disagree and have good reason to do so, all is fine and you should probably give up your full time job collecting trolleys at Asda and show us professionals where we're going wrong. We do so love armchair speculation by such eminent figures as yourself.


23.) Nice to hear the name halifax white! From sowerby bridge myself. This player your taking about wouldn't be paddy kenny would it pal?


 

 

24 Feb 2014 09:43:57
Takeover today conner wickham joining on loan

Halifax white

1.) Interesting to see that Wickham was not even in Sunderland's squad at the weekend. Fingers crossed.

Mad Mick


2.) Would be a great start to the week if either of those happened. Wickham, Butland . these are players you sign when you want promotion


3.) I can't see league approval coming for weeks yet as I reckon they are still looking for a reason to say no, they don't want to approve this takeover as it would mean we would be back in the premier very quickly and they would just hate that. If cellino had no money he would have been approved already


4.) Am I correct in thinking that you can only have 3 loan signings at once though?

DB


5.) DB if that's the case it's a great excuse to get rid of the lightweight Stewart and slow Kebe-possibly the worst wingers I have ever seen! Oh hang on, I do remember Ryan hall in the Birmingham cup tie at ER-totally inept!


6.) No takeover today mate, i'd get a new source


7.) You might say Kebe and Stewart are lightweights but we look to have goals in us when they're in the team. Plus, we weren't exactly on the best of runs prior to their arrival- having them as wingers beats the previous 5-3-2 formation we were working with wing backs.


8.) As many loans as you want but limited amount from each team and only five loanees allowed in matchday eighteen.


9.) Have seen a couple of negatives about Kebe, sometimes he's thinking ahead of his team mates with only Byram and McCormack on his level - his tracking back is excellent as well as his forward support play.
Everything to the left of him in midfield is more worrying but at least in Murphy and Stewart we have some youth that might mature into something. Rudi seems to be lacking something compared to early season form. We need a creative midfielder and have done for some time but there aren't many good ones around. Even with money to spend we still have to find the right quality and blend.


10.) 24 Feb 2014 14:04:29
DB, unless somethings changed that I'm not aware of I'd say that Watford have shown that you can have a lot, since most of their team was on loan last season


11.) 24 Feb 2014 14:14:54
Got goals in us? We haven't even managed an attempt on target in the last two matches!


12.) Watford had 9 in squad v Derby which was their record number of loans. They had 8 against us. However, they exploited a loophole which was addressed at the start of this season.

5 loans in the match day squad is the maximum.


13.) Kebe = pants


14.) Did I miss the takeover announcement?!


15.) You did'nt miss it mate, no takeover approval for weeks and weeks yet, if at all. Original poster needs a much better reliable source


16.) 24 Feb 2014 18:27:01
its definitely going to be announced this month NOT


17.) I'm pretty sure we shall get a decision soon from the FL. It is a pity that they weren't as thorough with the GFH application. They are incapable of running a football club. At least Cellino has some experience and this will be of great advantage to us. that is, if he can keep his nose clean.


18.) Kebe is getting a raw deal from a lot of supposed fans. Saturday was never going to be a goal fest, but we battled hard for a point. A game we would have lost earlier in the year. Support the team, the slagging off is so negative.


19.) Would rather they approve it in April than not at all. Next season is our season. Avelar, Adryan and Tabanelli ;)


20.) Kebe tracks back, ahead of his team mates, good forward support play?. whatever you're on I want some 'cos kebe is the worst player I have seen in a leeds shirt for years, he's totally disnterested


21.) I personally think the Take over will happen in time.

It's about time that all these supposed Leeds fans stop moaning and being negative and get behind the team and BMD.

What ever happens I will always be Leeds thru the ups and downs!

Lifelongleedsfan


22.) Ah cheers for clearing that up.

Well - this could make sense. Interview with McDermott in today's YEP saying he's stepping things up to find a new striker before the loan window closes. Just waiting for green light from take over.

DB


23.) Lifelongleedsfan

Unfortunately "marching on together" is a concept not understood by some "fans"

Fawksey


24.) While that is true mate and I agree we should be a touch more positive when we get any points at this stage, its not like we haven't been messed about. We have the best support in the land and the club owe us as much as to give us some info! We make the club. No matter who plays, manages, runs the club, its our passion that drives the machine. We've been strung along too long, I feel like we're about to get dropped a big blow with all this going on. I rreaaaaaallly hope it happens and we get back to where we should be. But the fl hates us! We know this! I've just got a gut feeling GFH have stitched us up. Prove me wrong. Please


25.) 25 Feb 2014 11:38:35
i can't tell what kebe is really .hes not low enough to ground to be a decent wide midfielder with good feet . not strong enough to be a striker or midfielder .
I would guess he would play best in a 3 man attack so probably the wrong player to be in our starting 11 at the moment.
Stewart is just in need of confidence and a small bit of strength but he will gain confidence and experience from game time and strength will come eventually if put on right strength training . don't want him too strong or he will become too slow


26.) Next Planned meeting of FL is mid March. There are issues which need resolution regarding TO, BUT if resolved earlier possible emergency meeting. Don't hold breath though.


 

 

 

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It will just be wages he been let go by Southampton I hope we get him along with 2 centre halfs I will feel a lot better

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Yes the deal is dead and so we will be if mc does not buy at least 3 good players not free that nobody wants we need a striker a centre half and good midfielder or it will be more like bottom 6 not top 6 he must see we need these players and leave it two late

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26 Jan 2014 18:44:42
Can you tell me who the goalkeeper centre mid and striker is then or is it just wishfull thinking like all Leeds fans put some facts on pal or you will end up bankrupt

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09 Jul 2013 21:12:58
Does anybody no if chris Dawson has travelled with the sqaud

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