Leeds Banter Archive September 24 2018

24 Sep 2018 14:56:56
Think kp will be found out and play from the bench.
I'm a massive critic and don't believe he's got what it takes to reach a higher level.
Thing is though, he's raised his game a certain level, fitness being the key factor, ofcourse mb has found a roll that has given him control in his game. because last season he didn't have a clue and he was hiding in most . games. Alioski is due to be replaced. he's just not improving and has not gone round a man since he came. we have players itching to get his spot. alioski from the bench could work.
Last comment is just my view.
Although we could use him right now, Roofe is another player who has benefitted from fitness and mb's methods. He will also struggle to reach that higher level. he's definitely not a 9.he's producing from high fitness and he's out already due to it. roberts is different class and only 19.bamford, miles better also.
Hope these players prove me wrong, would be happy with that. seen enough now to stick with my view though.
Cheers lads.

24 Sep 2018 15:27:27
I agree and think the thought of Alisko coming off the bench would terrfy most and not starting might up his game further. Phillips can be a match winner, not sure what game it was last season but he come on and turned the game around and won it for us.

roofe i love but was 'iffy about' however this season he has proved he can be class, still think he is more rod wallace than number nine and would love to see him, bamford, saiz and roberts as attacking four, with alosiki and pablo in the mix as well,

think a front two would favour roofe bamford and roberts but don't think it is Mb's style or favoured formation

I agree about roberts think the lad will be a different class and alredy showing great promise.

24 Sep 2018 17:30:45
Totally agree Gilsey about KP. Bielsa has simplified his role in the team and therefore his performances have improved as a result. In previous seasons he has struggled in the central midfield role as he is not intelligent enough to work out when to defend and when to attack and as a result got caught out of position. This season his role is clear, win the ball and give it, then return to your position. Going forward I expect Forshaw to take his place and that is fine with me as Forshaw is a better footballer. As for Alioski, he has the ability to beat players but lacks the confidence or inclination to do so. On the return of Pablo I would expect Alioski to make way with Pablo and Harrison occupying the wings.

24 Sep 2018 21:39:59
Not sure how you can be saying Roberts is different class, he had a good 15 mins v Preston, he’s to do a lot more to convince me, he doesn’t play as a 9,he drops deep most of the time and spends a lot of time out wide. we put a lot of balls in the box and he’s not in there. he has potential that’s for sure, but premature to be calling him different class Gilesy. agree totally re Alioski though.

24 Sep 2018 21:59:16
Agree with all the above, would like to see Leeds with a plan b aswell.

24 Sep 2018 22:05:24
Jesus

What's with the Kalvin Phillips assassination squad?

Of course Phillips isn't Premiership standard. Wolves didn't think Douglas is. Don't think Beradi or Cooper are either. Saiz may be too lightweight for the Premiership too

But the fact is he IS the defensive midfield choice in the team at the top of the Championship. From what I have seen he is doing his job well. the number of goals conceded shows that

Aloiski seems to be getting it in the neck too. Doubt he is going to set the Premiership alight either, but as it stands he is the chosen left sided midfielder for the top Championship side. He scores and he assists
Maybe we should have kept that Swansea lad. Giles? . May be you guys don't believe this side has progressed.

25 Sep 2018 08:07:46
Many valid views above, but well said Axe!

25 Sep 2018 09:11:03
awal i agree when i say roberts is a different class i mean he looks like he has potential to be, his movement touch and pace looks very good. I don't think he is a line leader or number nine yet played there and done well, think on wing as inside forward or with two up front he could show real class

axe, I don't think anyone would say the sqaud has not progessed, not only has MB got every single player (maybe apart from alying but i loved him anyway) playing better others have come in to improve sqaud as well, that doesn't mean we are perfect (for championship level) and that some wouldn't want to see improvements. that's the point of football, part of being a fan and sites like this. we cheers on what we love and moan about what we don't like (some like myself more than others)

25 Sep 2018 10:52:40
Well said axe . Great post, points well made . Our better players over the years, Cook, Taylor, Viera, Woods etc were considered too good for Leeds and sold, now we have a team top of the league, players are been slaughtered . Fact is if something don’t need fixing, enjoy it . It’s like the missus is is a looker, cracking cook, loves footie and a nymph in bed! But I know down the line she’ll look like her mother, , lose all her appeal, so I’ll slaughter her now! I’m speaking hyperfetically, mine thought I’d gone off long ago and left!

25 Sep 2018 11:24:05
great analogy Rag and leeds for me is just like the wife, no where near as good as she use to be and I know there are far better out there but I love her anyway.

As for the table, I think a few are gettng carried away a litte, yes it is good, yes enjoy it, but was we not here last year and fell away to an awful season?

I am not suggesting it will happen again but cracks are there and think we have a right to worry or at least be cautious. Last two saturdays we have lost to a poor brum team and drew with an awful millwall team (and lucky to draw at that in that they hit post at the end with was lucky for us) so things while good are far from perfect and I can see why some of us are nevous

personally i don't care what league leeds are in I just want to see us be the best we can be and what frustates me is while things can be great and we can be amazing we can also be very flat and poor which of course i am not a big fan of.

24 Sep 2018 09:59:20
ok i'm not normally one to snitch or throw people under the bus however. to try and detract from the fact I think i have royally p@@sed some people off and to take the heat off me can i just point out. al stfford white said he thought batty was OVER rated. can we let the lynching begin. I have a mate in MI 5 who has eyes on him give the word and the trigger can be pulled

(sorry Al but thought this might move away from my KP rants. If you could also incsult Billy Bremner that would be great! )

24 Sep 2018 12:29:16
Not a problem BW, having watched the mighty whites for quite a bit longer than 40 years, it is my opinion that Batty was overrated. He has said himself that he didn't like football he was just good at it. He was good but never in the same league as Brenner, Dacourt etc.

24 Sep 2018 13:17:20
Batty, Bremner, two of my all time favourites

Again see my previous comments about players prepared to do the work in the trenches to allow the likes of Gary Mac and Giles to play (although to be fair JG did a fair bit of the hard yards himself )

{Ed001's Note - Macca could dig a bit too mate, he got stuck in a fair bit in his short spell with Liverpool.}

24 Sep 2018 13:44:24
Ed001 You're quite right Mac could get stuck in but he truly came unstuck when Viduka's quaddy went in. Like Macca, I came unstuck a couple hours later when my absence at an important event (not the game) didn't go unnoticed.

{Ed001's Note - ah but he scored from 45 yards to win the derby for Liverpool so no LFC fans really remembers anything else about his time with us. I don't even remember him playing in the game Viduka did that in. The only thing I really remember was wondering how on earth Elleray didn't send off Bowyer (but that is something you were probably used to wondering about Bowyer!) and then just knowing that I had to go into work and face the smuggest bloke on earth that night who happened to be a Leeds fan. He was a nice guy like but he was a bloody nightmare when Leeds won!}

24 Sep 2018 14:10:26
cheers al,

in all honestly i loved batty but can agree with that, he did a job and did it really well but wasn't a great footballer and certainly not when compared to others like Billy, dacourt or kante who tackle and can play.

gary mac and speed maybe the best all round footballers during my time along with bowyer who i loved, although i make ed right he was often quite naguhty and maybe played more minutes than he should of.

24 Sep 2018 14:41:18
mind you al you have to admit Batty was a goal threat.

24 Sep 2018 17:26:38
All the time mate, I'm sure he scored once :)

24 Sep 2018 18:39:02
don't exxagterate and make it worse than it was. i am certain he scored twice! (his first goal for leeds was a blinder if i remember correctly run down the line and tucked it in the corner)

24 Sep 2018 19:30:32
Ok his whole career he scored 4 I think, 2 for Leeds and 2 for Blackburn I think.

24 Sep 2018 19:56:22
exactly he was a goal machine!

24 Sep 2018 20:05:45
Delboy Wrong! Scored 4 for Leeds in his first spell, 1 for Blackburn and 3 for Geordies. 8 goals.

24 Sep 2018 21:50:16
yet he scored 1 in 7 for england under 21's club sides where clearly useing him wrong.

24 Sep 2018 07:51:48
Haven't been on here since the defeat because I thought there'd be some unjustified negativity from some . I see KP is getting stick again from some . Good players, is prone to some off games, especially when he plays 3 games a week . As the season progresses we will probably have to start rotating players more to cope .

24 Sep 2018 09:26:38
Mighty Some? Name names. Would it be from a Wall fan dan sarf who claims John Lukic was better than Nigel Martyn?

24 Sep 2018 10:39:46
I thought we would see more rotation of players with the tempo we play at, or at least earlier subs when we are in front. Time will tell but think we might have some tired players come christmas. Will be interesting to see how Bielsa will cope with teams who come to shut us down, sure he is watching reruns to find a solution. Can plan A be plan B, not sure.

24 Sep 2018 11:30:48
yeah George because i need to be named otherwise people might of missed it. and I don't claim John lukic was better than big nigel I know Lukic was better than nigle, banks, buffon put together

honestly i think nigle and robinson were both better but love Lukic more than any other leeds player. even KP. ALso lukic only keeper to of won two titles with two different teams so must of had something going for him.

{Ed001's Note - has something happened that you were involved in Berm? I find it difficult to believe that someone as shy and retiring as you could have been in any way shape or form involved.}

24 Sep 2018 11:46:34
i know right ed. not even sure what i said to be honest, think it was something to do with Beradi or maybe Massimo cellino.

{Ed001's Note - so it wasn't you who said Batty was useless then?}

24 Sep 2018 12:35:19
no i love batty i thew Al under the bus for saying that as hope the heat might go off me until my next KP rant or millwall chant as I am such a massive wall fan COYL MILLLLLLLLLLL.

{Ed001's Note - I didn't think it would be you as he does seem the type of player a Wall fan would love.....}

24 Sep 2018 14:11:31
got to be honest i think they did quite like batty, the northern Terry Herlock!