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01 Jul 2019 19:39:10
Caceido and Costa, if added to the five from last season, Roofe, Bamford, Roberts, Harrison and Pablo, would give us 7 players to cover our attacking options. Think we would need one more in, after that the pathway for younger players would become too blocked up . As Saiz is still one of our players, I would have him back, especially if we could get back firing to his best. He was the best player in this league for a time. We would have Alioski and Dallas who could cover as well . Plus some of the U23's should be getting very close to competing for game time, there is about six of them who are knocking on the door, on paper the squad is starting to shape up.

Leeds1970

1.) 01 Jul 2019 20:39:24
1970 Saiz is part of our past. He deserted us in our time of need. He must not be allowed to play for our club again. Haven't even mentioned his other problems. Tyler the Creator shall fill his void.


2.) 01 Jul 2019 21:55:31
I so agree with George, from the outside it’s impossible to get the full story about how a player does or doesn’t fit in, but my bet is that Saiz doesn’t and Bielsa will not want him back. However good his football could be, he had to be inThe right frame of mind to produce it and often wasn’t . The spitting and ban came at a crucial time of the year for the club. The personal reasons took him back to Spain at another crucial time for the club. He goes to a club pushing for the 4th champions league spot in Spain, they don’t do it and his contribution is minimal in an opportunity and place that was absolutely perfect for him! If he is going to find a happy place for him to play, it’s not going to be in Leeds and to be honest I’m not sure where it will be if he couldn’t make it work in Madrid where he wants to be! I think he could have been a really superb football player but just don’t think the desire, determination or professionalism is there.


3.) 01 Jul 2019 23:34:19
Well said George. However if he were to come back he will need the full support of all Leeds fans. Can’t see it though!


4.) 02 Jul 2019 08:21:19
He needs to get the desire back or he is finished which would be a shame. Not sure who will want him at the moment. He could get his head down and play his best for us next season to try and secure a move to Spain or he could just end up in minor leagues. Would be a plus for us if he came back with determination and i would be happy with that. Then again if Bub feels he no longer has that passion would be happy to see him walk out the door.


5.) 02 Jul 2019 19:12:42
Saiz was relatively old when we brought him in, if he was "all that" he wouldn't have been in the Spanish second division, he did well initially but always seemed to be petty and precious, as if we'd bought a mini Messi 🙄🙄🙄.


6.) 03 Jul 2019 06:46:42
Spot on Al, not sure “ team before self” was properly explained to him inn Spanish!


 

 

30 Jun 2019 08:22:32
Main paper/ media talk this week on players coming in seems to revolve around Mujica, McCarron (both maybe for U23's) and Costa, Harrison, White, Freeman, Caicedo for first team squad. If we can get these in or similar we would be loads stronger.

Leeds1970

1.) 30 Jun 2019 11:49:46
That would amount to “amazing bizzniss”! In my opinion, of course!


 

 

10 Jun 2019 17:23:22
Just can't see Rads having the funds required in order to get the quality that's needed in. Think that is why we have not invested in the squad properly and then failed to invest in January. All the talk about MB being happy with a small squad and only wanting one player in January is all just spin. Rads did not have the readies to buy James in January and tried to get him on the never never. Don't get me wrong I like MB and think Rads is doing his best, what I dislike is Rads and his spin team thinking we are all fools and will swallow any line the club throws out.
Very poor from Rads when a few million could have strengthened the team enough to get up and he then looses out on £350 million.
Will that chance present itself for him again? Not without investment!

Leeds1970

1.) 10 Jun 2019 21:39:33
You're probably right '70. Just reading that we don't have 6mil spare for a CB.


2.) 11 Jun 2019 08:33:09
1970 If mb wasn’t happy with a small squad he’d have walked. He’s walked for far less in the past and if you look back at the club teams he’s managed he’s always done it with a small squad. As for the James saga it wouldn’t have mattered if rads had put up £30 million as there chairman wasn’t going to let the deal through under any circumstances as in his own words he delayed the deal until it was too late in the interest of the club. We had agreed a fee with the owners but can’t do anything about a kamikaze chairman going rogue can we.


3.) 11 Jun 2019 10:57:33
We don't have any money available for signings other than loan signings. Unless we get a load of cash injected from somewhere we will be looking at loans only.


4.) 11 Jun 2019 11:42:42
Alf only a handful of people know what money we have. If you go around bragging you’ve got a £20 million war chest then average £1 million pound players become £5 million pound players as all the clubs will increase there players value to a club they know has money.


5.) 11 Jun 2019 14:17:00
That's what is often banded about TTIAO but I'm not convinced myself. The noises coming out of people close to the club seem to confirm the fact that we have no money and we are focussing on loans. I can see a cash signing if we sell a few but so far nobody has been sold so we don't have any funds to sign anyone new. Even if we did the funds we make seem to evaporate - look at last season for instance.


6.) 11 Jun 2019 14:39:59
It’s called overheads Alf, better a chairman living within our means than one like Peter risedale.


7.) 11 Jun 2019 17:21:24
Indeed TTIAO, but that doesn't suggest a club with loads of money just keeping schtum - it suggests a club with no money.


8.) 11 Jun 2019 17:34:50
All down to interpretation as always. Loans cost money too, in loan fees, and wages. Thanks to wages in the PL, and player values, loans are the only viable option if we are to stay within the bounds of FFP. The only way to purchase players, when you’ve not got parachute payments, are “ ones for the future”.


9.) 12 Jun 2019 07:45:27
They think it’s all over, get real! And while your at it take your head out of Rads’ backside . He either hasn’t got a pot or isn’t prepared to invest in the first team and tried to buy DJ on the never never, hence it fell through and as a result probably cost us promotion .


10.) 12 Jun 2019 12:05:10
RHC FORKING LOVE YOU BRO! 💙💛.


11.) 12 Jun 2019 12:23:32
Bright - FFP is just an excuse.

The way i understand it we are comfortably within the limits imposed by the EFL having a £12.2m deficit for the three season cycle 2015/ 18. We are allowed up to £15m without any input from the owner and £39m if the owner makes up the defecit. So to my mind that means we could spend £26.8m this season if we wanted to and still be within the limits providing the owner stumps up some cash, in our case, to the tune of £24m. That would be plenty to get some decent players in.

Even if you factored in the operating losses of £4.3m. Hell, let's round that up to $5m operating losses and we would still be able to spend £21.8m this season and be compliant.

We make the most revenue in the league (discounting clubs with parachute payments) of £40.7m so how we still make a loss of £4.3m is also a bit of a worry for me and that was after we took into account £18.1m generated through player sales (although to be fair we also invested over £10m in new players and their wages) . we hardly broke the bank though.


12.) 12 Jun 2019 12:51:14
Georgie it’s mutual my brother!


13.) 12 Jun 2019 14:28:00
Well explained young Alfred.

Any chance you could take a look at my tax return for me?

MM.


14.) 12 Jun 2019 16:58:57
Since when did you start completing them MM?


15.) 12 Jun 2019 17:29:24
Yes Alf, but wages are part of the P&L, so £26.8 mill doesn’t leave much for transfer costs, if you buy a couple of players for 10mill, then pay them 40k per week, which is exactly my point. Loans are a much shrewder way forward, then invest when we get promoted.


 

 

26 Feb 2019 19:25:47
How much has Rads put in to buy and run the club for last 2 seasons?

We know we have turned over in excess of £50m per season, that equals £100m. He has had up to £35m in in transfers, Wood, Viera, Saiz ( and Taylor? ). He has had £12m from the 49'rs. Add to this the £25m debt he has used as well. that's in the region of £170m, Without adding in any of Rads funds mentioned as part of his original investment. Reportedly these funds included money to buy the club £40m, the ground £20m and £20m transfer kitty, a total of £80m. This all adds up to over £250m. Bought the club for £40m and the ground £20m that's £60m .

That leaves over £190m. There has not been massive investment in the playing squad ( Our biggest outlay has been a £200k fine from the EFL, ! ) . The average wage of £20k a week is £1m year for a squad of 22, that's about £22m plus management and U23's allow £8m to £10m. So say £65m over 2 seasons. Based on the above there is no reason why we should have any money worries, unless some of the above is incorrect, there appears to be about £100m shortfall in my figures?

Leeds1970

1.) 26 Feb 2019 23:03:11
Leeds1970

Guess you are NOT an accountant.

Where on earth did you get those figures from?

Sorry, I now realise you are a creative accountant!

Met a few of those in my life, thank goodness.

MOT.


2.) 27 Feb 2019 13:21:48
I think I'll wait for the club accounts :) also you forgot the purchase of ER, policing costs, the no-playing staff wages, business rates for ER and Thorp Arch, the upkeep of the aforementioned, owners and directors salaries, I'll stop now, Alzheimers kicking in ;)


3.) 28 Feb 2019 15:06:55
Massive investment in u23s
Issuing of longer contracts
Recruitment of more backroom staff. We now have a Dr pitchside thankfully
It’s not just the stuff in the papers

The whole club is on a better footing than it was under certain previous chairmen.


 

 

02 Jan 2019 12:52:02
Honestly think if Rads does not put in the investment needed to get up in this window, he is absolutely mad and will be to blame if this opportunity is not taken. All this talk of punching above your weight, you are where you are in the league on results and after 26 games we are top and deserve to be, because we have won the most points . There are 20 games left and we need to continue to be able to perform and play our brand of football for all of these games .

Leeds1970

1.) 02 Jan 2019 14:21:14
So no blame in your opinion for bielsa who has said he doesn't want or need players? You might think you know more than bielsa leeds1970 but I prob think he's forgotten more than you and I know about coaching.

In bielsa I trust.


2.) 02 Jan 2019 14:46:59
Martyn is right! Absolutely no point in buying players that Bielsa doesn’t want. He is so specific about how he plays and the qualities that he wants. In summer he has a lot more time to mould players but not now. Bielsa has to be honest about his squad and what he wants and then see what happens. We probably will never know the ins and outs!

Other thing to bear in mind that given the regime of the team under Bielsa, not every player will be up for it. So some will rule themselves out!


3.) 02 Jan 2019 17:54:11
Well. put Spanish. To some players it will be too much like hard work.


4.) 02 Jan 2019 18:33:59
Think MB said he was happy with the players, because he did not want to undermine the current players confidence by saying some of them might be replaced . You offer any manager the option of better players and they will want them, it goes without saying. You just don't want to undermine the good players you want to keep.


5.) 02 Jan 2019 19:17:43
He also said January is never a good time to buy players because you pay over inflated prices. If players are really that good their teams don't let them go in January unless offers above their worth come in.


6.) 02 Jan 2019 20:22:38
Martyn is spot on,

How many players are going to be available that

Bielsa wants
Want to come here
Will be able to contribute to this style from day one
Are available
Are better than what we have got?

It’s not going to be an enormous list!


7.) 02 Jan 2019 20:45:21
Here here spanish. Someone thinking with their head and not their heart.


8.) 02 Jan 2019 21:48:51
Bang right Martyn, and Spanish. That list of players is zero. The style and pace of MB’s game plan means that no one can walk in, in this window, and be able to play at the same level of the players we already have. Money would be wasted, on anything but a GK, and even that person would need to have the distribution skills that have made Bailey our #1, and to be fair, for his flaws, there are not many keepers who can do what Marcelo asks for from the GK position.


9.) 03 Jan 2019 17:56:38
it is possible to make signings and not out them in the team immediately though. there are still plenty of games up to May and nowt wrong with bringing someone on board and working with them on the training ground and U23s for a few months then bring them in to reinforce us during the run in.


 

 

 

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12 Jul 2019 19:35:37
The Spanish and Bermo Show really could be a goer, Fringe Theatre and all that Jazz, maybe Edinburgh Festival. What with Bermo's credentials and Spanish as the side kick who steals the show, maybe even some script writing, bit of LU TV work, it could prove very entertaining.

Leeds1970

1.) 12 Jul 2019 20:30:32
leeds1970 i am sorry but i have never been so offended in my life and my dad walked out on me when i was born and my mother hated me

ok my career might not be the best but even i am far too good for lutv. i mean honestly.


2.) 13 Jul 2019 05:46:53
But Bermo. there’s Emma .


3.) 13 Jul 2019 08:41:07
Good point I take that back and I’m now pleased to announce a three series deal with lutv called Bermo and Emma talk Spanish

Only trouble is ironing out the deal as like kp I want parity with bam bam to make the show happen.


4.) 13 Jul 2019 17:22:06
Could I suggest a tweek to the title, perhaps Bermo and Emma do Spanish would enhance the viewing figures.


 

 

12 Jul 2019 12:58:19
This site is becoming the Spanish and Bermo Show. Bit like Ant and Dec, maybe they could head down to Aus with the team and miss the flight back😀😀😀😀Believe some on here would miss you lads ALAW.

Leeds1970

1.) 12 Jul 2019 13:27:16
if i made the flight with the team i would probably get a game at Cb by all accounts. worrying thing is i play in goal.


2.) 12 Jul 2019 13:46:27
Aussies are very particular to who they let in 1970. Sure Ausman will alert customs of their arrival. The other problem is i think they have the internet in Australia.


3.) 12 Jul 2019 14:00:04
Bit of an oversight on my behalf regarding the internet. Maybe the outback with no internet or mobile signal would be the place for them. Although as MightyLeeds fans can be found all over the world no doubt there will be a Leeds supporter near by to help them out.


4.) 12 Jul 2019 14:06:01
1970 That must make me "and" thinking about POTS. Spanish is Ant, Berm is Dec.


5.) 12 Jul 2019 14:39:09
Spanish a bit of an alcoholic and bermondsey a midget.


6.) 12 Jul 2019 15:17:20
I take offence to being a midget although I did marry someone 4’10 to make me feel like I’m 6”7

Now on the other hand a drink problem that I can’t have no complaints about I make any look tee total

As for getting in of course aus will take me I’m a cockney and my family have done bird for serious crimes I have Aussie native written all over me.


7.) 12 Jul 2019 16:00:15
The Spanish and Bermo show! I like that idea and glad to you got the names the right way round, it’s in my contract! Perhaps we could take the show on the road! Bermo, got any contacts in the theatre world!

Until then it’s good night from him and goodnight from me! Bloody unappreciative audience! We could both be doing panto you know! Oh yes he is!


8.) 12 Jul 2019 16:59:14
Wex LOL.


9.) 12 Jul 2019 17:53:25
Course names are right way round save the best till last right? Least that is what I am hoping for with the second wife

Sadly I’m booked for panto but at the very least spanish would be honrered to have you in the audience mate.


10.) 12 Jul 2019 18:01:21
They have the internet, it's just a few days behind the rest of the world 😂🤣😂.


11.) 13 Jul 2019 00:20:10
Now then, was it morecambe and wise or wise and Morecambe! In the audience, honestly!


 

 

10 Jul 2019 20:23:59
Last note on the lively recent banter, an unspoken rule between us all, should be, just don't make any personal comments. Hopefully if properly adhered to, the banter remains just that Banter!

Leeds1970

1.) 10 Jul 2019 20:40:26
Ching ching 70! We're all on the same side.


2.) 10 Jul 2019 20:46:50
Leeds doing well tonight 5 up, 21 players used lots of energy, Bambam one shot but some good play on and off the ball.


 

 

08 Jul 2019 19:54:20
It looks like the camp maybe a little unsettled. The players should remember no one is bigger than the club. Regarding Pontus there are always questions about his fitness, legs and knees, why he came to us originally from Italy. Is Rads getting ready to cash in his chips. At the moment just cannot see us building on last season.

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1.) 08 Jul 2019 22:08:20
Janson looks well happy signing that contract in his new brentford shirt lol.


2.) 08 Jul 2019 22:17:47
Janson looks well happy singing that contract with his new brentford top lol.


 

 

29 Jun 2019 12:18:23
Think if the money is right all players are available from any club. We are a business, in the case of KP if someone stumps up £15m plus, think we would be stupid to turn down their money, as I think we could pick up a similar type player for less. Don't get me wrong I don't like to see any of our better players leaving, but if the money is re- invested and allows us to improve the squad to get out of this league, that has to be the main objective. Selling players and improving the squad is acceptable, selling players and not improving the squad is not. If the squad is shaping up as is currently being reported, we could be moving in the right direction, we only have to finish one place higher than last season, we have lost the advantage of being an unknown quantity, but to balance this, MB will have learnt a lot about the league from last season.

Leeds1970

1.) 29 Jun 2019 12:57:07
Not sure we could replace Phillips for 15. Not improve for 15 that’s for sure.


2.) 29 Jun 2019 13:39:25
With you on that one Aus. In these days of vastly inflated fees, I doubt we could replace him cheaper than we sell him. So what's the point in selling him.

If there was a ready made replacement in the U23s, as in the case of Jack Clarke and Stevens, then I wouldn't mind him being sold, so that the Academy production line is not stagnated. After all, Phillips got his break because we sold Mowatt.

I would be interested in anyone's thoughts on our defensive midfielder situation
I seem to remember Anita being sold to us as a defensive midfielder, that used to be a right back. Unfortunately I never got to the few games he played, so was wondering if anyone in the know could confirm or blow that idea out of the water

My only recollections of him were he was an effective midfielder in the Newcastle side that won the championship, but didn't get a look-in at Premier level.

May be he could take over Phillips' water-carrier role?


3.) 29 Jun 2019 13:39:51
But radz would sell for 10.


4.) 29 Jun 2019 14:02:33
Further to the idea of Phillip's going, I was just pondering our transfer activity so far. Am I correct that:-

Ekuban has been sold for £2m
O'Connor has gone on a free
Clarke is being sold for £10m
Saiz is being touted at about £6
Diaz has been released
Grotts has been loaned out


That, to me, seems to leave a deadwood list of:-
Coyle
Pearce
Denton
de Bock
Shaughnessy
Anita
O'Kane
Bouy
Ideguchi
Sakho
Cibicki
that don't figure in Bieslas plans. 11 players! A team's worth of depreciating assets

Rather than stress so much about the incomings, to a team that comfortably finished 3rd last year, I would like us to concentrate on getting rid of the quantity and improve the quality

Even with all the above we still have our normal 1st XI available to us:-
Casilla
Ayling
Douglas
Phillips
Jansson
Cooper
Henandez
Klich
Roofe
Roberts
Alioski

With a second string of:-
Peacock-Farrell
Gotts
Davis
McCalmount
Struick
Halme
Stevens
Shackleton
Bamford
Nicol
Wilks

And waiting in the wings:-
Miazek
Huffer
Male
Odour
Kitching (back from on loan)
Edmondson
Kun

It was reported we only had £5m to spend this summer so add Harrison (£1m loan fee) , Costa (£2m loan fee) and White (£2m signing) to that sort of squad. bl00dy brilliant. and still not touched the money from selling players. FFP. piece of p! $$.


5.) 29 Jun 2019 15:33:37
Great post axe, still personally would like more quality and in particular a goal scorer but great to see it all laid out like this cheer fella.


6.) 29 Jun 2019 15:49:44
axe, Harrison, Costa and White plus maybe three more decent signings of say Freeman, Mujica from Barcelona B and even Saiz coming back or someone similar and we would look plenty stronger than last season.


7.) 29 Jun 2019 16:36:02
1970 Quality defensive midfielders hard to come by. Our valuation of £30m not too far off. Should KP impress in the PL his value would go through the Kemar.


8.) 30 Jun 2019 00:45:08
Cant believe you guys put Pearce on your list of no hopers to get rid of. He is better than Taylor ever was, is one of the best young full backs in England and you are happy to discard him. Judgement? lack of.


9.) 30 Jun 2019 08:50:31
Bieslabud

Please don't think I am 'judging' any of those players on the list I called "deadwood". It's probably come across as a negative label and I wasnt meaning it to.
It is only referring to their usefulness to the Leeds United cause.
(I would love a hundredth of the talent that any of those guys have)

In reference to Pearce, I am with you about his ability. When he played a couple of seasons ago I understood why we hadn't tried hard to keep Taylor. He fitted in at left back seamlessly.
But no youngster should be thrown in to a team and made to be first choice and unfortunately when he was rested Beradi came in and did an even better job than Pearce
Then at the start of last year we made a fantastic signing in Douglas and Pearce was then 3rd choice left back. I saw him being loaned put as a positive for Leeds. He would come back more experienced. Unfortunately in his absence Alioski has proven his versatility. Now I would hazard a guess that Pearce in now joint 4th choice left full back at Leeds with Denton, de Bock, and U23 starlet Odour
Pearce is a professional footballer. He deserves the opportunity to be sold to a club where he can be first choice and play the game he obviously loves. He deserves more than being sat in the stands every Saturday watching his teammates play

This can be said for most of the players on my 'deadwood' list. Too talented to sit in the stands on Saturdays.


10.) 30 Jun 2019 10:03:19
if kp is as good as people say we need a sell on clause as his value will go through the roof, however as i always say I know best and he will struggle to make prem football. Sadly for me i can see us selling him, him doing really badly and us buying back a year later at a profit to us which is great business providing the player ain't phillips.


11.) 30 Jun 2019 11:49:48
See your point axe but if you have a lad with as much potential as him you keep him. Of the ones you mentioned only Douglas is a natural left back. Fan of Alioski and although he puts in the effort he was more attacking as a full back than he was as a winger. He is not defensive minded but puts in the effort. Berardi not a right back never was. Why would you let a player go now that may be worth 2 or 3 mill in a year or 10 mill in a couple of years.


12.) 30 Jun 2019 11:53:19
I actually rate Coyle as well but he is older and if he can't get in or around the first team he should be let go to get on with his life as with Nessie.


 

 

 

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30 Jun 2019 11:49:25
Think JC's advisers were trying to play one off against the other to get as much out of any deal as possible. Don't know if Clarke actually wanted to go, so they had to start a blame game to sell the move to JC, running Leeds down to sell the idea of the move to a reluctant JC might be one way of looking at it. Who knows? One thing that must be remembered is no one is bigger than the Club.

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29 Jun 2019 17:14:18
George, for the benefit of dating of contracts the 1st of July maybe important as a date, it might have a bearing on financial fair play years. The season/ year running from 1st July 19 to 30th June 20.

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02 Jan 2019 18:33:59
Think MB said he was happy with the players, because he did not want to undermine the current players confidence by saying some of them might be replaced . You offer any manager the option of better players and they will want them, it goes without saying. You just don't want to undermine the good players you want to keep.

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12 Jul 2019 16:59:14
Wex LOL.

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12 Jul 2019 14:00:04
Bit of an oversight on my behalf regarding the internet. Maybe the outback with no internet or mobile signal would be the place for them. Although as MightyLeeds fans can be found all over the world no doubt there will be a Leeds supporter near by to help them out.

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09 Jul 2019 13:32:48
Not feeling very confident at this precise moment, that could all change if we bring in 3 or 4 quality signings. Otherwise to half is all I can see . MB gone by December, Rads will go if not in the summer, then when it looks like we are not going up.

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06 Jul 2019 05:57:56
Phil yes I think some U23's will step up and maybe MB thinks that as we. For me, think we still need 2 in, a no.9 and no.10.

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01 Jul 2019 16:45:33
Good to have you back MM, is it day release, tagged or permanent.

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