01 Jul 2024 14:14:36
Cresswell sold to Toulouse for £3.8 million.
What's next? We lose Joseph, Geldhardt and Crew?
Farke hates the youth talent doesn't he?
01 Jul 2024 14:32:22
He certainly doesn't trust them nor play them.
First eleven burnout was on DF not utilising his squad.
01 Jul 2024 14:33:54
He wasn't good enough to get in to the starting 11. Do you want him to play inferior players just to keep them happy? Same goes for Joffy.
Crew literally just been promoted to the firsts so why would he be playing?
Joseph only one who should actually have gotten more game time.
01 Jul 2024 15:23:26
You expect CC to be satisfied with another 480 seconds of game time?
01 Jul 2024 16:29:32
Well said Dilli, I totally agree with your post mate ??.
01 Jul 2024 16:49:09
Baz, you can’t put every player in your squad on the pitch at the same time therefore some don’t play. It’s the managers decision who plays where and when. So below you say Cresswell should have played CB, so if that had happened there would have been no room for Archie, so Archie’s worth today would have been what £3M? It’s said that DF does not give youth a chance, so Charlie Crew, from nowhere to on the bench in DF’s tenure, Archie, under 18’s to first team in DF’s tenure, Matteo Joseph, bench warmer to first team under DF, Cody, attitude problems and Cresswell does not fit DF’s style. Also non of DF’s predecessors utilised the youth! You can play a couple of the inexperienced youth in an experienced team without resulting in failure but you can’t put four or five in and expect success, so what does he do? I think no matter what happens or what he does or doesn’t do, you will never see him as a winner but always as a failure waiting to happen ??.
01 Jul 2024 17:01:35
All good points about not being good enough for the first team, but I'll counter with Piroe.
The man does not fit our style and is a donkey. Yet he was played over Joseph. Some games he may as well have put Cresswell on for Piroe.
01 Jul 2024 17:08:00
Woody . plenty of successful sides have played 4 or 5 inexperienced players at a time.
01 Jul 2024 17:31:35
Reportedly CC move to Toulouse has collapsed.
01 Jul 2024 18:13:06
Totally agree about Piroe, MoT. Joseph needs some starts early doors next season.
01 Jul 2024 19:09:15
I agree as well regarding Piroe, apart from the Ipswich game he has never seemed comfortable playing, he’s got great feet but clumsy with it!
01 Jul 2024 19:24:15
You’re right Baz, but there is inexperienced and then very young naive and inexperienced! There is no way a team including Cresswell, Gray, Dramah, Crew, Joseph and Geldhard, would be challenging for the top six in the Championship. The game is changing all the time in the Championship, it’s getting more challenging with young players suffering burn out because of their inexperience, so they have to be introduced gently if they are good enough. There is so much emphasis on the money and players monetary worth in the market and one bad decision could destroy a young player and his worth, I would hate to be a manager in the modern game. We fell short last season and it was definitely not due to the lack of young players not being utilised, it was down to not having the experienced fit striker and CAM we needed ?.
01 Jul 2024 19:55:45
Yep Woody good and fair final post . spot on re the CAM and CF issues of last season.
01 Jul 2024 20:47:04
Thanks Baz, joking aside I really do get your point regarding DF not utilising players enough, I just get the feeling that money is now more important and I believe managers are to frightened to try new things, new players and new formations, not many will put their reputations on the line for the fear of failure! Yet it’s usually their fear of changing things that cause their failure which results in their sacking! The days of proper managing football teams like the great Don, Wilko, Paisley, Clough etc etc did are unfortunately well and truly gone. Let’s just pray ? for a great season in every way ??.
02 Jul 2024 00:02:49
Sorry lads you are all wrong. If the young ones are good enough Farke or any other manager will play them.
Archie Gray playing 50 odd games shows this.
Woody. As for young lads being introduced gently well that’s a load of bollox mate. The game hasn’t changed in that respect. If Leeds had let’s say three top youngsters like Archie last season I guarantee they’d all play. You play your best team regardless of age.
02 Jul 2024 08:12:14
Now that’s spot on Corky. Only Archie was good enough. The rest weren’t, or aren’t. Quite simple really. You certainly don’t play them because they are young, have potential, or need development minutes! That’s what loans are for!
02 Jul 2024 11:41:47
No Corkster and Brighty. utter balderdash re ' only Archie was good enough '
Leeds were playing in much lower level Champo last season. not frigging Champions League
Don't give us guff that Cresswell, Joffy and MJ aren't good enough to play in Champo . nonsense fellas
Facts are
Cressy and Joffy already played well and coped in EPL previous seasons
Cressy is also EFL proven. wirh full season with Millwall
MJ caused EPL Chelsea defence a whole bunch of problems
Give over fellas with the hyperbole.
02 Jul 2024 14:04:20
Joseph is genuinely good enough for regular minutes. Not the participation ones he got most of the season.
02 Jul 2024 14:08:16
I’m afraid Basil, that it’s only you talking guff and nonsense, on repeat, again.
How’s that Rodon signing doing for you by the way?
Joffy and Cressy? (No one disagreeing re MJ, so you can suck that one back in) ! Now yer just having’ a laff! Must take some serious bluff to make that statement then accuse others of talking toss!?
02 Jul 2024 14:28:46
Creswell played well in the EPL? You sure Baz?
A couple of starts and you have him down as the next Tony Adams!
02 Jul 2024 15:27:13
Make your mind up Brighty . you stated a few posts back. only AG was good enough.
Tell me why Bright and Corky
Joffy and Cresswell aren't good enough for Champo . on what facts are you basing that on . Good luck
And yes Corky . Joffy AND Cressy played well in EPL.
02 Jul 2024 17:38:06
Only AG was good enough to gain the minutes he did, Baz.
MJ deserved more. The others YOU mentioned simply not good enough to displace people ahead of them. Is that clear enough, or would you like it in “Daily Star” speak?
02 Jul 2024 19:13:44
Joffy didn't play particularly well at Sunderland. Was pretty average. And sure Cressy had a a few spells sat on the sideline or not even making the squad for Millwall for performing poorly. Cressy missed 18 games where he was an unused sub or not even on the bench.
02 Jul 2024 20:55:51
Didnt say they had to be regular starters Dill and Bright. but all more than capable of doing well, playing more of a part with far more minutes . coming off bench. squad rotation
Bottom line DF failure/ refusal to utilise his squad a big reason Leeds United team flagged and missed out on promotion .
02 Jul 2024 22:24:36
Dig that hole Bazza.
02 Jul 2024 22:42:21
Let it go Baz, you know you’re onto a loser on this topic, Joseph is the only one out of that lot who shows any real promise and you know it.
03 Jul 2024 00:04:34
Corkster and OP . we shall agree to disagree.
03 Jul 2024 08:22:19
But you don’t have the ability to agree to disagree, preferring to continuously bang the same drum over and over again, reverting back to old, dead topics, and repeating the same spurious claims over our failure last season! Frankly, you are on a different planet if you truly believe that “extra minutes” for any of those players would have altered the outcome for the season!
03 Jul 2024 09:43:29
Last key 11 matches Ampadu at CB was increasingly badly missed in our overrun anemic midfield.
Creswell at CB, Amps in midfield. Leeds would finish 2nd
Dty your tears Brighty.
03 Jul 2024 12:43:53
Pmsl. Not a clue fella!