Leeds banter 2

27 Apr 2024 07:51:35
This is the only match of the season I haven’t seen. So have been sitting reading all the comments and reports for the last couple of hours. After getting down to the final comments of the first page, mighty says after 5 minutes knew we were going to lose. How could that be in such a massive game for the club? How could we not get ourselves up for such an important game? What’s happened to the team spirit? The bottle went? I read most of the reports saying meslier was poor again, piroe was terrible. As a team, we are far too nice. We can’t score from set pieces and always look like we will concede goals from set pieces. It doesn’t augur well for the last game of the season against saints, and more importantly the play offs. As always it’s easier to spout off once the horse has bolted, but lack of desire and fight is unacceptable
Maybe too many self before side players in our team right enough.

27 Apr 2024 09:36:15
Start with farkeless.

27 Apr 2024 10:24:32
Explain ausman. We won 13 and drew 2. How can we go from that form to the current debacle? I think Daniel is sometimes too nice and too loyal, but it always comes down to the players. Without doubt Joseph should have been brought in a while ago, but piroe has been a 20 goal a season player the last couple of seasons, and frankly the game against boro when he came on, he looked as though he’d just came on from running the London marathon, and also didn’t look like he was trying a leg. I also think, had we had a better keeper, would have won a few more games. He was better when he was 19-20 years old.
Good shot stopper maybe, but his positional sense and distribution are woeful.
And we essentially have 2 old style sweepers that sit in front of the defence. They never drive forward and pass the ball sideways or backwards.
And practically no goals from defenders or midfielders, compared to other teams in the championship, have cost us. When you are backs against the wall you sometimes need someone other than the forwards to come up with the goods. It never happens.

27 Apr 2024 07:47:39
Let's be realistic yes we lost were we totally outplayed the stats don't show that, we had more shots both had 5 on target their goalie made a couple of good saves ours didn't yes we have played better but it is not the end of the world.

27 Apr 2024 09:37:50
U b realistic. Hilarious. We got trounced, mate. Plate and simple. By relegation fodder.

27 Apr 2024 07:39:38
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Everton v Liverpool - A Quick Liverpool Perspective

27 Apr 2024 07:14:52
Out of interest, what difference does the league we are in genuinely make to your lives?

27 Apr 2024 07:51:06
Nothing in truth Alf…. I guess it’s human nature to want to be the best, play the best, watch the best etc.

My own personal feelings whilst I was watching last night. I kept asking myself the question why do we want to go up and why do we put ourselves through these emotions, and I kept thinking because I have empathy with this team and I know that if we don’t go up, it’s broken up and it’s no longer this team, but the truth up or down, the team would be different anyway, so it’s all irrational.

It’s not the same, but the situation, for me anyway, was the same in my professional life. I ran a European arm of an international business for the last 20 years. The “quarter” was the be all and end all. Those quarterly results were the only focus and at times we were riding on the brink (of closure) if we didn’t make the quarterly numbers. Our reward for scraping together those numbers, was the privilege of being able to try again for the next quarter, all the same stress, anxiety, risk of failing again. I often pondered how much “better” life would have been, had we missed one of those quarters.

Being pragmatic, the EPL means for most teams and fans, more exposure, more money, more TV games etc…. for Leeds, aside from the money (which is irrelevant to the fans) , our ground is full every week, we’re never off the tele.

Personally, I despise what football is in the EPL, I despise VAR, have no empathy with the “star” players. The only thing the EPL offers me, if we were there, is a higher probability of European football. Before I push the daises, I would like to follow Leeds around Europe one more time.

The EPL probably means an expanded and refurb of Elland Road…. that would also be nice before I pop my clogs!

27 Apr 2024 08:10:38
Very good post Ani
Following your favourite team is all consuming!
I suppose it’s like a drug!
The highs are what we strive and enjoy but on days like today we are really down!

27 Apr 2024 08:51:55
I prefer championship and don’t like the premiership so I’m a perverse way I prefer not being in prem… that said I want us to go up!

27 Apr 2024 10:18:59
Spot on Bermo.

27 Apr 2024 11:43:53
You know what Alf? Zero, zip, zilch.
I think Ani has caught the mood well.
It will be very sad to lose some of the great players we have, with great attitudes, and characters; that is my biggest concern. But we have lost them before, and will do again. We move on, as a club, team, and fans.
As you say, the EPL is pretty much everything we can despise in the game, apart from the financial bonus and expanded euro comps. Plus VAR! No biggie if we don’t get there this season, but will be an immediate disappointment which will also pass.

27 Apr 2024 03:05:50
Wow, tough watch and frustrating that we are in a terrible slump, has been like this since international break, really affected us.
Last 7 games since break and only 8 points out of 21, with 3 losses.
Very unfortunate as others around faulted but not as bad as us and now looks like extended season and dreaded playoffs.
Think DF done very well to get us soooo close but start of season hurt us, first 10 games and only 16 points out of poss 30, have been playing catch up all season.
We were fantastic from start of new year and need that form over next couple weeks.
Have a few issues with DF but on a whole would want him to stay for next season, which ever league we in, think he will bring good times.
We deserved to get tonked today, QPR were on it from start and too many of our players off it big time.
Our forwards today were poor, not holding ball and as a result, put pressure on MF and defense. Even gruev and Roden were off and they have been class.
Piroe is terrible and next season need 2 new strikers ( get rid piroe/ bamford) , still feel Joseph decent and he should start remaining games imo?
Can we step up and get up via playoffs, maybe we'll score winning promotion final goal from a CORNER!
If in championship, we'll lose Meslier, Roberts, Roden, summerville, Gnoto and rutter and a rebuild needed.
Trying to stay positive, maybe Ipswich will lose next 2 then onto final day.
How long is James and Roberts out for, back for playoffs?
MoT.

27 Apr 2024 08:07:35
Good post MW…Ipswich only have to fail to win both their next games and it will go down to the last game…so still a small chance of autos.

…. maybe we can do it via the playoffs. What a way to do it, that would be!

I also want DF to stay as well as many of the players as possible. If we don’t make it, he deserves the chance to try again and I think, aside from getting over the obvious “hangover, ” hopefully we can get a better start next time and the “49’s” put their hand in their pockets; they never really had a chance to do it last summer with all the turmoil of who was in the “loan” fiasco.

Bielsa’s failure was more painful for me; we had led the way most of the season before crumbling and we hadn’t been in the EPL for a generation …he got the chance and did it next time.

27 Apr 2024 08:52:48
Agree with both I said mid table promotion or not frake has done amazing!

27 Apr 2024 00:44:20
I haven't seen the game yet and, from the comments here, I am not sure that I want to put myself through the additional pain of actually watching it.

I have seen various theories to explain why the team has gone from unbeatable to also-rans, none of which can be totally discounted.

I have a question from left field that may explain everything.

I have a vague recollection of seeing a reference to a curse being placed on Leeds many years ago.

Is this true or just an urban myth?

If true, can someone please organise an exorcism (or whatever you do for curses) during the week.

I am happy to pay for a sacrificial chicken if that is required, but cannot help if the ritual requires the involvement of a virgin.

27 Apr 2024 01:28:52
Urban myth.

27 Apr 2024 02:03:25
No myth. Just crap.

27 Apr 2024 02:43:01
Well this team just not good enough will next season be any better can’t see it as half will be replaced with what we will have to see never mind we got 90 points seems to me that points is better than promotion for some still only another 15 years to go.

27 Apr 2024 06:57:54
Beg to differ on it being a myth. I recall a rare interview with the Don who said there was a curse and either he or someone else in that era enacted the bizarre ritual the adviser recommended.

27 Apr 2024 07:27:08
Just found a rare article which confirms I am correct. Don believed there was a curse and the adviser he hired was a gypsy.

27 Apr 2024 09:31:20
Good for you. You must be pleased. We don’t give a shit.

27 Apr 2024 15:15:03
Lol Aus! Well said. I bet he is so very pleased to be proved correct on some flouncy nonsense, again!

27 Apr 2024 00:12:51
WhaT l learned tonite

Alf likes a Chinese meal

Baz is partial to biryanis

Prime enjoys jalapeño pizza

2 sheds is on a diet

Oh yes, and we lost 4-0 at QPR. Oh well atleast everyone in the chat room on this site was well fed ( apart from 2 sheds of course )

27 Apr 2024 00:27:02
Yes 1970

Despite the woeful performance and result,

the Leeds live chat is lively and entertaining.

27 Apr 2024 00:34:00
What I learned.

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☝️ Was our formation.

Managed by a 🇩🇪 who is 👖.

27 Apr 2024 02:04:22
Agree George. Non existent management.

27 Apr 2024 07:29:05
What's perhaps worse Aus is all those bottle emojis just so happen to be in full Leeds colours.

26 Apr 2024 23:28:43
Sad to see tonight. A fortunate deflection for their first and we crumbled. Lack of experience showed and the same happened tonus as happened to Saints the other day. At the end of the day our heroes are only human and that's what can happen when disappointment and shock set in. Anyone saying the players don't have the talent or desire, or that Farke doesn't know what he is doing are ludicrous. We are still 2nd, we have got a huge points haul and we have broken countless records. The season isn't over and even if it was we will be back bigger and stronger than before. I know it's disappointing but take a deep breath and try to see it in perspective. We march on, together.

26 Apr 2024 23:59:22
Naive post.

27 Apr 2024 00:15:57
Agree alf. Like bielsa's first season the team have lost form right at the death and are looking like they're running on empty.
Personally I would have liked kamara in the middle for his experience as grays inexperience showed. He was a bit anonymous in the first half.
Our defence was too passive and blocks were too late.
It is going be hard to in the playoffs if that our fate.
A bridge too far for an inexperienced side.

27 Apr 2024 00:25:00
Not naive Baz, purely Alfs opinion and reasoned take on the situation. Its a hell of a battle for 46 matches, no player or team can perform at their pinnacle game in game out or even for 90 minutes at a time. We have to take the achievements of the season in context and to have 90 points is phenomenal. What Alf has to say is very viable I believe but that's also just my opinion!

27 Apr 2024 00:28:18
What Baz said.

27 Apr 2024 00:30:05
agree baz. Not naive at all
Big gulf.
In between optimism and negativity is realism.
Alf and vid etc missed the middle.

27 Apr 2024 00:43:50
Speaking of realism Aus.

Vid its more than a tad hyperbole to refer to 90 points as " phenomenal " when Leicester have potentially 7 points more

AND even more pertinently Ipswich a team that was 2 leagues below Leeds last season will also have more points!

27 Apr 2024 00:58:55
Imo Bielsa's Leeds ( with a midfield of Pablo, Klich, KP, Dallas) etc beat this Farke's Leeds.

As for Farke 's "coaching" evident all season that Farke's main/ only tactics is for team to just give ball to Summerville and Rutter and rely on their ability.

Buendua and Pukki carried Farke and Norwich to EPL

SF49ers have a tough call to make.

27 Apr 2024 01:08:52
Well Baz I would suggest that for 3 teams to achieve 90+ points in the same season in such a competitive league is unheard of, so yes, the achievements of all 3 is indeed phenomenal and I doubt will ever be seen again.

27 Apr 2024 01:37:31
Vid ; Leeds finishing on 90 points ( or 93 at best) counts for nowt if they don't get promoted.

Farke has also considerably underachieved with a front line of £130 million ( Rutter, Gnonto, Summerville, DJ, Bamford, Piroe . to be topped by Ipswich fgs!

And as for " phenomenonal " 90 points, just last season Burnley finished on 101 points ( 11 points more ) and Sheff Utd on 91 points . and one has seen how woeful this season they have been .

Realism.

{Ed001's Note - it must be being so happy that gets you through the day!}

27 Apr 2024 01:51:56
It was a disappointing night, that’s for sure. However, if Ipswich fail to win either of the next two games, then it goes to the last game, irrespective. …most fans, even those who supposedly deal in realism, would have taken our position even a few weeks ago, nevermind at the start of the season.

Overall we have had a great season, far better than anyone might have hoped and certainly better than most predicted. As for 90 points, well, we have only ever done it once before, so an amazing achievement. I’m for one appreciative of what the lads have done in the name of Leeds United this season, and if it turns out, that they fall short, then so be it.

27 Apr 2024 02:05:37
Shame still not enough vid.

27 Apr 2024 02:32:13
Ani ' a few weeks ago ' Leeds were 1st with auto promotion in our hands

But yes what will be will be.

27 Apr 2024 15:18:10
Vid; yes, it is an amazing achievement for all 3 teams at the top of the league to have gained 90+ points before the season has finished! And two of those teams have done so without flouting financial regulations too!

26 Apr 2024 23:18:03
Wow, we were so poor we couldn't afford a packet of spangles, my word. But the fat lady is still in the dressing room, there is time. Worst case scenario we go up at a White Wembley late in May. Keep the faith siblings UTWDTP.

27 Apr 2024 00:03:11
Well not over . but you have evidently in your posts considerably overestimated the team spirit in this team.

27 Apr 2024 01:40:15
Curious to know Vid what were the causes for Leeds United woeful performance in your opinion?

27 Apr 2024 07:39:01
Totally disjointed performance Baz. We never got to grip with their high intensity, we had no press, awful passing and no speed of play, too stop start backwards sideways then give it to Cree to try and create. Too many players off their game no invention and we must be the worst team in the league when it comes to corners at both ends of the pitch. Should have been changes at half time, I would have moved Archie to rb and bought Kamara in, replaced Piroe with Joseph.

27 Apr 2024 15:19:24
A very good insight Vid, that can’t sanely be argued against! 👍🏻.

26 Apr 2024 23:01:34
Tonight was like flash backs to the end of last season.
Atleast we won't be getting relagted.

27 Apr 2024 00:03:35
Bingo Leeroy.