Leeds banter 4

11 May 2024 23:14:52
I'll be honest and admit that I have no idea how we are likely to go in the play-off games.

We have been putting in Jekyll and Hyde performances for many seasons now and you can never tell which team will turn up to play on the day.

I do however have a few very confident predictions:

1. There will be a mix of contributors saying "I told you so" or "you were wrong again" after the fat lady has sung.

2. I will be wishing I had a dollar for every time the word intent was used during the transfer window.

3. Regardless of what happens and what division we are in, we will all be back again next season to do it all again.

Long live the hot tub of hope and the prophets of doom but, as always, I will hoping and cheering for my team to win.

12 May 2024 08:32:13
Excellent post Jungle 👏🏻👏🏻.

12 May 2024 11:50:36
Bang on Jungle! Here we go!

11 May 2024 22:25:30
Just seen an interview with Rutter online re tomorrow's match. Seems calm enough!

11 May 2024 18:49:33
Question. Who shall take a PK against Canaries if Jimmy and Joel on pitch same time?

11 May 2024 19:50:28
Pointless question. A we probably won't get one, B who cares as long as we score.

11 May 2024 20:08:13
Wonder 🤔 what our team selection shall be tomorrow? Who cares 😅 as long as we win!

11 May 2024 21:17:24
Exactly.

11 May 2024 17:15:20
Question, has it ever happened before where a team has beaten top two home and away and not gone up? I’m hoping that if we can see off Norwich and get to Wembley, it will be a totally different game against either the saints or West Brom compared to the league games against them. It is a proper cup final then. I’m hoping it’s not going to be a repeat of the derby county scenario again. When the questions were asked and the players asked to dig in and get results, too many choked and disappeared. Also the supposed disharmony in the team at this crucial time couldn’t have came at a worse time. Get the early goal or a clean sheet is what’s required.

11 May 2024 16:38:37
On the bright side the the coming down to championship are no great shakes. If we are still here next year that should help.

11 May 2024 16:49:16
Luton, Burnley, Blades relegated check

Easy corrrct prediction for Sir Baz

But all 3 will be in top 6 next season 1970.

11 May 2024 16:58:20
If we are not top six next year we will be the year after! Take from that what you will,

11 May 2024 17:21:50
1970 Your original post so wrong for following reasons.

1. They'll receive parachute payments.

2. They have no PSR concerns.

3. They all have good coaches.

4. Cumulatively, each one is tailor made to get promoted. Tailor made also for subsequent relegation once promoted but that's a side point. Beware of the yoyo club.

Next season in the Championship will be very tough.

11 May 2024 19:24:18
Every season in the Championship is tough George, but we won't be in it so why worry.

11 May 2024 20:09:52
No worries, just realism.

11 May 2024 21:13:04
GEORGY it must be great to be so confident in being right all the time!

12 May 2024 02:42:05
1970 Actually no. The unpopular opinion tends to offend and create enemies. Honesty isn't always the best policy. I truly hope I don't get to discover how intensely difficult the Championship is next season. Would much prefer 5 nil drubbings most weeks while observing our stadium 🏟️ expansion project begin.

12 May 2024 07:39:03
Guys, guys, I predicted that the 3 clear favourites to get relegated actually got relegated. Please validate how amazing I am at predictions. Lol.

12 May 2024 11:59:03
Lol dill. And no George, you create enemies thro a crass and childish sense of humour, sad attempts to belittle people, mocking individuals and subjects outside of football that people obviously care about, and forever seeking validation for your views which are often outlandish attempts to provoke. Just clarifying.

11 May 2024 07:39:43
{Ed's Note - CTR has posted a new article entitled, My Current Opinions On Manchester United

11 May 2024 07:48:41
It is indeed crazy just how bad man utd have been this year ed.
I share in your astonishment.
It looks like you are even going to miss out on Europe. That’s another thorn in your side.
Seeing city probably winning the title again must hurt a lot too.
It’s really unfair when a team is pretty rich and crap too.
As for 10c. Didn’t he recently blame the youth?

11 May 2024 02:44:04
We are a big game team.
Did both top two home and away reasonably easily.
Got bossed a bit by saints but realistically they were never part of the equation. And last game was out of our hands.
That's why the opti computer has us as favourites for promotion. When the chips are down we show up.
I'm certainly not giving up.

11 May 2024 08:07:40
Aus - I agree - but I think we’re more of a big team team - if that makes sense - as in we seem to do better against teams that think they can beat us and therefore attack us. We put 8 goals past Ipswich in 2 games and 4 past Leicester - and ran Chelsea very close etc. We lost the last game through poor game management - on and off the pitch - but tbh 2nd place was beyond us by then.

I note the HT manager is leaving - basically branding the players he inherited a pub team. How Leeds is it that we couldn’t break them down because they just sat back - and hacked when necessary. I am nervous about the next 2 games because of Rutter’s confidence and this alleged disunity in the team. If they can sort that out I think we will beat Norwich. They will attack us.

11 May 2024 09:27:01
Right here right now . it looks far from a big game team

Wilting wallflowers FC.

11 May 2024 09:33:37
I think all 3 teams will think they can beat us.
But they maybe surprised al la top 2.

11 May 2024 10:49:46
Nice post Aus. Here’s hoping!

11 May 2024 13:01:54
The only thing that is wilting on here Baz is my will to live after reading your posts! Baz, come on it’s the eve of our biggest game in a long time, win this on aggregate and we are at Wembley for the first time in many years, this season just keeps giving so embrace it and live it! ALAW, MOT 👍👍👍👍.

11 May 2024 14:19:48
Woody ☺😀

Wemberley Wemberley.

11 May 2024 16:12:37
Now that’s better Baz, now write down ALAW and We Are Leeds 100 times, hopefully by the end of your punishment you will learn not to be so negative and to appreciate Brighty, OP, Ani, MG, Alf, Aus, me, Corky and many others from the rose tinted contingent and our optimism, if not you will be punished as I know where you live, it’s house number 13, Pablo Avenue, Miserableborough, it has no windows and a huge cloud hanging over it and on tv you have Till Death Do Us Part playing on repeat and in the burner bin in the garden the video set H. A. P. P. Y ready to be lit! You're Chimney has been removed because even Santa has given up on you for not believing, you have even blocked up your letter box in case someone posts good news through your door! All the kids keep away from your house because on trick or treat night you only had trick and I heard that you once had a fire there and thankfully you got out alive but that was only down to you being an ex-TRACTOR fan! 😂😂Just for you Baz happy weekend 👍👍👍👍.

11 May 2024 16:41:41
Haha Woody creative amusing unrealistic post 😀.

11 May 2024 16:43:06
. 'appreciate Brighty and OP . " you say

Now that is funny ☺😀😉.

12 May 2024 01:38:40
Hilarious woody. Well done 👍.

10 May 2024 19:33:14
Young Heskey up front for citeh, any relation to the goat of English strikers?

{Ed007's Note - Jaden is Emile's son and there is another younger one, Reigan, coming through at City as well. Nothing makes you feel so old as when players you remember sons come onto the scene 😟

10 May 2024 20:14:29
Ed, makes you feel extra old when you remember Eddie Gray and see a couple of his grandkids coming through at Leeds 😭.

{Ed007's Note - 😂😂

10 May 2024 21:13:14
Ben Wilkinson, son of Sgt Howard Wilkinson, captaining Citeh U18s.

10 May 2024 21:25:27
Son? Jaysus he was knocking kids out late in life!

11 May 2024 00:36:54
The Citeh boys were stronger in all departments tonight against a younger and smaller Leeds team. The boys never gave in, but were beaten fair and square by a better team. An unbelievable following for Leeds and a good atmosphere in the away end.

11 May 2024 10:54:18
Thought the same Feath. The size difference, physically was incredible (hyperbole olé) ! Solid hard working graft int first half, but their quality showed in H2.

11 May 2024 11:57:37
Yes Bright, a lot of our players are 16 and a lot of their's were 18+ which it was at times men against boys. I was right behind the goal and it would have been nice if Crew's shot had sneaked in at the end.

10 May 2024 19:02:59
looking forward to youth cup on FA player app ~ big task.

10 May 2024 21:15:06
Citeh 4 vs Leeds 0 FT.

10 May 2024 14:24:10
Apparently it’s about when Piroe scored against Southampton and Cry never went to celebrate with him or congratulate him. If you watch the clip you will see what everyone is talking about. Something or nothing, you make your mind up 🤷🤷.

10 May 2024 14:53:30
Did anybody celebrate with him?

10 May 2024 14:59:16
Cree has been great for us this season, but I get the impression he may be a little too big for his boots. Let’s see what the play offs bring, and what happens with him afterwards, but I believe we would benefit more from a real “side before self” player plus his market value reinvested.

10 May 2024 19:28:56
Totally agree Brighty, I have been thinking for awhile now that he isn’t a team player and more of a putting myself in the transfer window player, so after we win the play offs I would get rid Brighty 👍👍.

10 May 2024 19:40:19
Yep . and seeds were sown of disharmony by CS in Hull game pen wrestling.

10 May 2024 20:18:43
As long as he keeps scoring and assisting I don't see an issue with it. If he wants to put himself in the shop window he needs to play well. Which we want him to do.

10 May 2024 21:16:35
He be already in shop window Dill; job done.

10 May 2024 21:23:38
I told you all about Summerville and his attitude (Selfish) months ago. Dill, DF was soft on him because of his goals and assists as well. that's why we have these issues with the team. When Piroe clearly was the penalty taker for that game, DF should have sent a message and benched Summerville the next game. Shows you who's really in charge Hey!

10 May 2024 21:33:18
Bingo Hooksie.

10 May 2024 21:35:13
Guess he will just give up now then 🤣 out of everyone in recent games, Cry is the one who always looks most likely to do something. Singling him out is a bit mad to me.

10 May 2024 23:12:32
I agree, said this months ago about cree, there is something going on with his attitude. But as long as he scores next 3 games that good for, then he can earn the dollars if that's the goal.

11 May 2024 04:28:54
Perceived attitude problems and selfishness are not the same thing. Being selfish more is of benefit to certain players as it helps them to score or assist more, which helps the team in it's own way. Not being funny but if Cry is through on goal and he has Bamford at side of him are you wanting him to pass or shoot? I know which option I'd rather take. If he passed to Bamford and Bamford missed you'd all be moaning about "why didn't Cry shoot? " The kid can't win either way cos people will still have a moan.

For me, a bad attitude, amongst other things, is giving up when things are tough. Something a lot of others seem to have done recently. So Where's the "X player has an attitude problem" comments about others? Cry may not be in fine form still, but he's the one that looks most likely to do anything for us, meaning he's still trying stuff and likely trying to take a little more risk to drag us out of this hole we have been in recently.

Had the team on his back most of the season, yet he's accused of having attitude problems, lol. It's called a winning mentality and it's in a lot of top, top players. He's been playing in the same vein all season and it's only a problem now cos we aren't winning, which is less on Cry than most of the others.

That's my two cents. People will think what they like, but I don't see him being selfish as a problem.

11 May 2024 09:22:42
Are we so certain he’s a bad apple and needs to go?
Our top scorer and easily our best player, also best player of the Championship this season.
I wouldn’t be so quick to condemn him, yes he’s probably arrogant and a cocky youngster, would you not say successful players like Ronaldo and Zlatan are not arrogant and over confident?

I seriously doubt that the 49er’s will be looking to offload him, especially if we get promoted.
Personally I think it would be madness.

11 May 2024 09:34:56
Dill but ' winning mentality ' has NOT been present in CS or really any of the other players recently.

It's deja vu of last season meltdown Palace game onwards imo

That's little to nowt to do with nerves, lack of experience, or CS being selfish

And everything to do with team disharmony, fractious, not giving 100% effort and desire " downing tools " ; CS and Piroe wrestling match was symptomatic of untenable situation.

Regrettably DF appears currently unable to remedy/ improve team spirit.

11 May 2024 09:58:21
That is In your estimation Baz.

Would you if not of said before the international break the team spirit was rotten and that there was infighting within the players, downing tools, Farke losing control, players not wanting to play go Farke any more, blah, blah, blah?

I’m sure most of us would definitely say No!

How all of that would suddenly manifest itself would be somewhat bizarre would you not say?

For me it’s no more than a loss of confidence because of the pressure, there was a lot of expectation to fight our way back from the bad start to the season and that pressure intensified enormously just at the end.
It’s a symptom in football that happens every season.
We are no exception.

11 May 2024 10:56:30
Very good points there Dill and OP. Kinda makes me question my own perspective, to the point that I’m not so sure on what’s best imo now!

11 May 2024 11:14:51
End if the day without him having a little bit of selfishness at times, he wouldn't have scored a portion of the goals he has, nor some of the assists. His selfishness has directly impacted the team for the good.

And yep, exactly that, OP. Load of nonsense calling him this and that when it's him just being confident/ cocky. Too many top players to name that are exactly that. He's delivered the goods this season for us. Would we even be in the play offs without him, never mind have been challenging for top spot? Obviously a rhetorical question, but I feel we'd have struggled massively without him and his selfishness/ cockiness/ confidence on the pitch.

And again, Baz, why single him out then if that winning mentality hasn't been in the entire team, when he's been our best player of the lot. The pile on is ridiculous and built on some very spurious opinions.

11 May 2024 11:20:30
And drop Piroe if that's the case. Not Cry. Simple as. He's our best and most effective player, he deserves whatever latitude is needed to help him perform and in turn help the team win.

Piroe is lethargic, unathletic and a square peg in a round hole with how we set up anyway.

So many extenuating circumstances due to the drop off which have all been mentioned before such as fatigue, mental fatigue, perceived lack of experience, no leadership, poor results at international break, etc the list goes on. If Piroe can't get over someone else taking a penalty instead of him he's a bigger drip than I previously thought.

11 May 2024 15:58:51
Dill 1) I am not singling out CS the malaise is throughout team

2) Yes definitely drop JP . Leeds with a non press starting front four of JP, GR, CS and WG away from home gets beat 7 / 8 times so far this season.

11 May 2024 16:20:23
Hmmm, that's weird as it seems this entire chat is focused on Cry. Which it is.

11 May 2024 17:47:31
Dill
CS and Willy Gnonto for. starters
Never trusted integrity of Mes
Even Rodon seems to have stopped giving 100% . woeful efforts, performances and results evidence.