Leeds banter 6

10 May 2024 07:51:58
Pressed send by accident.
To continue I’m curious what the data would be on our missed chances on goal is this season?
Out of curiosity I looked backed on our game at Carrow rd earlier this season and we had so many missed chances on goal in the first half and went 2-0 down at half time.
Second half we managed to put some of our many more chances away and won the game 2-3.
We do posses a lot of fine talent in attack but sadly the chances they don't bury in the net is probably statistically very high.

10 May 2024 08:34:12
According to the xG table we have averaged 1.6 this season and scored 1.76, so are weirdly putting away more than expected. I didn’t expect that as like you felt we were wasteful!

Norwich have scored 1.72 off 1.37 xG so are more clinical based on that.

On an individual level Rutter has the worst xG to goals in the league (11.47 vs 6)

10 May 2024 09:53:36
For me, the Xg stat is another media led waffle statistic generated mainly for discussion, and increased gambling. Means nowt. Everything is slowly turning American, so I expect soon we will be voting for MVP rather than MOTM.
Give me the traditional stats every day of the week!
But yes, I’m sure there is data there which says we’ve missed an unbelievable number of “chances”.
Perhaps a call into Baz in Dictionary corner on Countdown could produce an informative definition of the word “chance”……. 🤔🤔🤔.

10 May 2024 10:06:37
That is curious Brockley, I thought that would have been much higher.
As you’ve mentioned there, Rutter being the most wasteful, certainly earlier in the season he missed many opportunities on goal. His creativity and assists have somewhat made up for that but for our most expensive player ever that we have paid for and the huge potential that surrounds him, he should be scoring more.
I don’t want to criticize him too much because I really do think he will improve even further and he does look like he really loves being at Leeds Utd.
If anything, for me he lacks a bit of aggressiveness on the pitch or that bit more desire/ passion whatever you what to call it.
But then again I do think there are several of our players atmo who need to display more animation on the field, more vein bulging on the neck, fist pumping in the air and encouraging each other more, instead of the slumping of the shoulders and bickering that seems to be going on recently.

We’ve got the talent I have no doubts about that it’s just that extra bit of desire which evades us.
The players after a long grueling season in this damned league do look a little short in energy and I know it’s something that George makes a point about rotation, for me it’s purely in their minds, the players themselves have allowed themselves to fall off the cliff metaphorically speaking, they are far too conscious of themselves making individual errors which saps the confidence and belief as individuals and collectively.


It’s up to the players now to dispose of their negativity, as quickly as they brought it onto themselves they can about turn and show bravery and desire to win promotion.
They have the key to success, if they want it.

10 May 2024 11:32:30
Although there is talent in iur front line .

One wonders how much actual desire there is from 2 or 3 to get Leeds over the line.

George has alluded to players " downing tools ' and with 8 points from 8 games thar looks nore evident than any other explanation for " loss of form"

Get DJ if fit in starting line up for Sunday its essential.

10 May 2024 14:20:08
One player is not going to change our fortunes Baz and you know that. For sure something has unsettled the team and whatever it is they need to change their direction of thoughts back to winning ways again, or quite simply it’s another season in the Champo.

10 May 2024 15:21:53
"One player is not going to change our fortunes" LMAO 🤣🤣🤣. Do you mean like Leif Davis for example?

10 May 2024 15:32:18
Hopefully a fit DJ playing well again, his form for the the few games prior to getting injured was woeful, but if back on song will definitely be better than WG.

10 May 2024 17:21:21
And how exactly would LD have changed our fortunes? And don’t make me laugh by quoting his stats this season, as there is no guarantee, or chance, in any world that they are simply transferred to our results. That is a child level assumption. In fact, as childlike as your humour.

10 May 2024 17:29:50
George, I don’t need an invitation from your childish posts to respond, so I won’t.
You are incapable of posting anything interesting anyways.

10 May 2024 17:44:44
One player in near past has changed our fortunes

Leeds heavily reliant on Pablo to get us promoted

Heavily reliant on Raphinha to keep us up (plus JH)


Wayyy prefer DJ in our team than out of it . for some va vs voom etc.

10 May 2024 18:26:30
Woeful MG? . give over. never . DJ scored a 40 yard wonder goal in the Hull game and still yer were bleating about him.

11 May 2024 19:55:37
He’s been great all season, but awful last few games. That cannot be argued against.

10 May 2024 07:42:26
If you look back over this season and even recent seasons we do have a very unhealthy record of missed chances on goal. I’d be curious what.

10 May 2024 09:55:43
I’d be curious in general as to “what”!?
It is my most often used word / question when reading the odd couple’s posts on here, particularly those of Walter Mitty.

10 May 2024 10:27:35
Indeedy Brighty 👍.

10 May 2024 14:10:56
1. Hyperbole
2. You’re prediction was wrong
3. Wrong again OP.

10 May 2024 15:00:35
Lol Woody! 🤣🤣🤣.

10 May 2024 15:51:06
Oh and I forgot to mention;

4. My man DJ
5. Pablo
6. Gashlier

😂😂😂😂.

10 May 2024 17:24:57
Don’t forget the simple transfer of LD’s stats into our own league performance.
Buy the player, own the goals and assists, but not the own goals and missed tackles. Or keep the player 2 YRS AGO, and get the same outcome, but for us! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.

10 May 2024 19:31:08
😂😂😂👍.

10 May 2024 19:35:41
Woody,

4. Hot tubbers believe they are never wrong (although factually over past 3 seasons they rarely are right). 😉 😜

5. Tinters like to speculate.

10 May 2024 03:43:12
Just read the 90 minute article on top earners in Europe and world football.
That's just insane.
Ronaldo 3.3 million pounds per week. How is that even possible. What can you even do with that much money. It's ridiculous. And his off field earnings are about 46 million pounds a year.
Mbappe 1 million pounds per week.
De Bruyne at 400 thousand pounds a year earns more in a week than I do in 5 years.
Barcelona Sposed to be broke but lay out over a million a week for their top two players. Is de Jong even any good?
Just crazy.

10 May 2024 05:04:14
De Bruyne a week not a year.

10 May 2024 09:57:48
It’s utter filth, Aus, but as in any industry, if the money is there, and there is a willingness to pay those amounts, then it ain’t the individuals fault for accepting it. It’s Generational wealth creation money, which is crazy for sport.

09 May 2024
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09 May 2024 23:20:54
Legend.
I’ve always wondered if he was given more time what he could of accomplished?
Proper manager and a great person.

09 May 2024 23:53:04
Top man!

09 May 2024 23:55:30
Sir Howard Wilkinson from my perspective.

09 May 2024 18:16:35
Well I'm going to predict Norwich 0 Leeds 3 and then Leeds 1 Norwich 3. Leeds win 4 - 3 on aggregate and off to Wembley to face Southampton but WBA is not a forgone conclusion by any means for the Saints.

My only worry about a Wembley final against WBA is that we might be ordered to play in the pink monstrosity. as I don't think both Leeds and WBA would be allowed to play in their home kits but I'd have thought Southampton and Leeds home kits wouldn't be deemed a clash of strips so that's my thought process on that one.

I do think as we finished 3rd Leeds should be allowed to play in their all white kit anyway but it's the EFL and they sure love to throw a spanner or two into the works of Leeds United if they think they can get away with it.

09 May 2024 19:41:59
West Brom to beat Saints over 2 legs.

10 May 2024 05:06:33
Cheshire The Canaries will defeat home and away the Unrotated Down Toolers. Lost the dressing room, he has. On Sunday, he'll also lose the first leg.

10 May 2024 06:26:52
Indeed, it will take some turnaround in form and an even bigger change in tactics and coaching to get us promoted.

10 May 2024 09:43:42
Opti has as most likely to get promoted amd most likely home amd away winners v Norwich.

10 May 2024 09:59:42
“Lost the dressing room”? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
On what particular inside information are you basing this profound, outlandish pile of toss this time?

10 May 2024 10:08:39
If Ipswich had had Junior Firpo as their LB this season

and Leeds United had had Leif Davis this season as their LB

Is their any poster on here ( bar Bright ☺) , who sincerely believes that ( EPL bound) Ipswich still finish above ( Play Offs bound) Leeds United? 🤔

# The fine margins of getting promoted to EPL fortunes.

10 May 2024 11:39:14
Aha the boisterous language and hypocrisy of Bright.

10 May 2024 11:47:49
So Bright rather than just criticize Geirge pov

feel free to ' speculate ' 🤨🤣as to why this team has fallen off a cliff 8 points in 8 games

Enlighten everyone with Bright wisdom and logic 🤔.

10 May 2024 14:45:52
Bright Zero inside information but the following facts point toward my conclusion:

1. Terrible performances post international break.
2. Terrible points tally post international break.
3. Many goals conceded post international break.
4. Meslier reverting to his worst EPL form of last season (polo mint strategy) .
5. Bizarrely players don't look bothered.
6. Contradictory statements from Farke in pre and post match interviews.
7. Rumoured spats between certain players such as Jimmy and Joel.
8. Rumoured discord between players and DF for failure to rotate causing lethargy (manifesting in weak form and lack of animation on pitch as described above) .
9. Rumoured upset over treatment of 8 minute season Cressy (with his own Dad's tweets still lingering) .
10. Social media content creators opining that Farke has no Plan B with Canaries fans chiming in corroborating.
11. All of this being picked up on by Leeds players, Farke and 49ers hierarchy.

Tends to suggest disharmony among the players and a "lost dressing room".

Call me a bluff old traditionalist conspiracy theorist Walter Mitty character.

Over and out
Walter George.

10 May 2024 15:02:43
No Thanks. I’ll just carry on as I am cheers. That’s what you two do anyway.

10 May 2024 15:10:34
Assumptive, presumptuous and foundationless.
Expected.

10 May 2024 16:09:33
No need to be so critical and self-deprecating of your own posts Brighty.

10 May 2024 16:58:40
OMG Baz, how many times have you praised Ipswich’s success to your hero Maguire? So bearing that in mind if he had Firpo instead of Leif then his skill set to work wonders with his players would have sufficed! Why are you and George so hell bent of predicting our shortfall and losses, I’m sick of reading what we will lose by, why don’t you steady you’re own banter site?, you could call it ‘Victor Meldrew is a Leeds supporter banter site’!

10 May 2024 17:27:46
“No need to be so critical and self-deprecating of your own posts Brighty. “
The attempted intelligent version of “I know you are, but what am I? ”…. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.

10 May 2024 17:35:27
Baz, You post rubbish you deserve a negative response, you are defending the indefensible, that being George’s ridiculous post.

10 May 2024 18:22:55
Very good points George in retort.

10 May 2024 18:24:25
As expected from Bright . just bluff and guff 🤣.

10 May 2024 18:38:15
Lol Woody very droll

We shall see what Sunday brings.

10 May 2024 21:22:24
A Leeds win that’s what it will bring! Come on Baz surely you know that Leeds supporters are always optimistic, is that not what all football supporters are? If not why do 36,000 turn up at Elland Road every match, why do 60+ thousand turn up at Anfield or even 3000 at Harrogate, why would you buy a ticket if you are not hopeful of winning? and before I get any clap trap from anyone, I know I would not buy a ticket if I thought we would lose 6-0 or 7-0 but I did as I was there!, and I was still standing within Elland Road with the minions the week after. So please tell the rose tinted brigade why we would do this to ourselves, my answer, because We Are Leeds and All Leeds Are We! Is the rose tinted lot unreal or is it the black cloud lot that are saps?
Answers on a postcard chaps! 🤷🤷👍👍.

{Ed025's Note - love it Woody..

10 May 2024 21:44:49
Woody pal

Win, lose or draw

Champions, also ran, promotion, relegation seasons .

we all be back each and every season as Leeds fans as you and I have done for multiple ( 5, 6 ) decades.

Some matches one logically think Leeds will win . some dependent on strength of opponents, form, team line up, injuries, coaching competence one may logically be not so confident

Comprende amigo.

10 May 2024 22:51:56
Baz I respect your answer but there has never been a match we have played that i ever thought we would lose, granted tough games but always thought we’d win! even when we we were rock bottom, I still believed we would win, if you don’t have that what do you have in football? I’m sure there is no way in my mind would I buy a ticket with the expectation of losing! 🙃🙃🙃🙃.

10 May 2024 22:53:47
Thanks Ed, by the way well done on escaping relegation, The Premiership is better with Everton in it, regardless of what anyone thinks! 👍👍.

{Ed025's Note - i would like to think so Woody but we do need to get our act together at boardroom level mate...or its just a matter of time. cheers..

09 May 2024 11:04:16
Two random questions for others thoughts.
1. Didn't see it but apparently Bayern Munich were denied an equaliser through linesman and referee who both admitted an error. Don't get me wrong. I'm happy Madrid won. I mentioned before about this. Given the amount of money in the game and players ambition, isn't it about time decisions can be reviewed and altered after final whistle? Say within 30 minutes? Too much at stake these days. Especially in any cup or play off game.

2. I got to admit I hate fans singing Leeds are falling apart. I see nothing amusing about us struggling during a game and am def not in the mood to sing when it's happening. Call it humour if you like but I don't see anything funny about it. Annoys me immensely and now other teams are using it to ridicule us. Wish they would stop singing it. Don't you?

09 May 2024 11:51:28
1. anytime Bayern suffers from refereeing is to be applauded.

2.agree. I hate that song . and Leeds fans singing it is embarrassing and dumb.

09 May 2024 12:58:38
2. If we hate hearing them singing the song than stop falling apart! I hate hearing it as well but, unfortunately its true about our team most times.

09 May 2024 14:09:36
Hooksie yes agreed the team need to stop falling apart

but 2) the fans need to stop singing that song in stadiums

It becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.

09 May 2024 15:43:48
Totally agree about the fans Baz.

09 May 2024 17:47:37
So what do we start singing? ‘Leeds aren’t falling apart again’! 😂😂.

09 May 2024 19:00:17
Bayern Munich falling victim to incorrect refereeing decisions is not something I will lose sleep over.

09 May 2024 20:02:29
Leeds wheels on the bus keep falling off.
Sorry boys and girls, but that was the best I could come up with 🤣🤣🤣🤣.

09 May 2024 19:48:55
Woody

Interim anthem for a week or 2

" We are the famous Leeds United and we're going to Weberley "
.

And after Playoffs heartbreak

Next season LUFC anthem

" Always look on the 🌞 bright side of life . do do do do doo doo do do "

( Chpsen especially for our ❤️ beloved 🌹 rose tinters and 🔥 🥵 hot tubbers )

09 May 2024 19:50:20
Not even a wink 😉 of sleep of Manston.

Indeed there should be street parties in Leeds celebrating 🍾 Bayerns justified misfortune.

10 May 2024 01:20:47
Wasn’t really talking about Bayern more so how important issues should be eradicated if possible. So much money at stake. I’m thinking
Post match goal analysis and adjustment PMGAA in short.
30 min after kick off ref linesman both managers in var room to Review iffy decisions.
If ref or linesman at fault. Dock 50% of match fee.

10 May 2024 09:13:30
For what it's worth, I wanted Bayern to win [since, sadly, both teams can't lose! ]; I despise the idea that Real who would be £B's in debt if they weren't state sponsored "win" all these European cups; greatest club team in history blah blah.

Whilst the mistake was to raise the flag early, and as it transpired they weren't offside, it doesn't follow that Bayern would have gone on to score; Real completely stopped playing and the goalie made no attempt to stop the shot.

On the night, Real deserved the win; let's hope that Dortmund win the final.

10 May 2024 09:19:37
I think it would be a bit harsh to punish a linesman for an error, when players who earn 40 to 100 x what they earn per match make many more mistakes per game. An EPL assistant ref earns £850 a match; top EPL players are earning £2500 per minute of typical playing time [excluding bonuses].

09 May 2024 09:22:25
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new player profile about, Thiago Alcantara

09 May 2024 07:39:56
{Ed's Note - Beckers pecker has posted a new article entitled, Respect Your Team's Football Players

08 May 2024 23:20:01
I really can't handle another Derby.
Let's get to Wembley and our top performers perform!

09 May 2024 02:08:17
Leeds 2 victories over Norwich feels light years ago. (one win in 6 current form )

Importantly neither match Josh Sargent was playing ; Norwich have improved considerably since he came back.

Norwich content creators are stating that Leeds United " bottled " top 2 and fancy their chances

My prediction

Norwich 2 vs Leeds 0 without PB and DJ

Norwich 1 vs Leeds 1 with PB and DJ.

09 May 2024 07:37:23
I see my indian warrior Grey Clouds is back with a positive prediction 🤣.

09 May 2024 08:20:32
Strange how Josh Sargeant started their Jan loss to us and was so invisible in the game Baz didn’t even realise he was on the pitch! He will be the difference though this time?

09 May 2024 08:50:30
🤣🤣🤣.

09 May 2024 09:34:53
Dougie a lot depends on team selection and Farke playing 3 midfielders ( not JP) if PB and DJ not fit.


Yes Brockers you be correct ( finally 🤣) on this one . JS did play in the ER match in Jan

So good news we be may be on our way perhaps to Wemberley after all ☺.

09 May 2024 09:37:33
. and Brockers and MG

any score predictions from either of you for Sundays Norwich vs Leeds match? 🤔.

09 May 2024 10:25:48
Well I was looking forward to watching our game against Norwich this weekend but thanks to Baz’s prediction I now don’t need to bother and I can go away for the weekend with the wife! Thank you Baz, you have saved me all the stress of watching the play offs! 🙃🙈🤔🙃👍.

09 May 2024 11:06:02
I don’t see the point in predictions personally, but as you asked Baz, my guess is it will be a pretty cagey first leg, and pretty horrible to watch, ending in a 1-1 draw.

09 May 2024 11:20:23
I agree Brockley. Predictions are pointless.

09 May 2024 11:58:22
Woody well I might be wrong and Leeds win. take the wife out on Saturday

Which line up is getting Leeds a win in your opinion Woody?

Fair play Brockley for your prediction 👏.

09 May 2024 12:14:15
You've done plenty of them on here Bright 😆.

09 May 2024 12:28:04
It is vital that we are still in it after Sunday. I would, like everyone on here want a big win, but this is Leeds United we are talking about, so I am sure we will be put through the emotional wringer.

09 May 2024 13:03:24
Erm not really, and it’s more tongue in cheek gung ho mentality than seriously considering an outcome, plus referring back to it forever and ever as a reference point for self validation. I don’t see it as a useful parameter for measuring footballing knowledge, unlike “the odd couple” I could mention!

09 May 2024 14:07:32
Bottom line its only an opinion ( and you have plenty of those ) on how one feels the game will go .

You were predicting / opining next Hull Manager yesterday. so that must be ' pointless ' too 😉.

09 May 2024 14:19:13
Bedtime for me. Night night.
Oh. An opinion and prediction are often right and often wrong.
It’s not trying to score points every single posts that counts.
None of us are always right or wrong. Be humble. Nobody taking score.
Or. Nobody but two should I say.

09 May 2024 14:29:13
Often right and often wrong? . hmm .

09 May 2024 17:16:53
That’s called “speculation”. Totally different, and again, an outcome I couldn’t give a pony and trap about.

09 May 2024 19:58:39
Err no Bright they be three peas in the same pod

Oxford English Dictionary

Other words for speculation : among others ' prediction ' and ' opinion '

I will take the facts of Oxford English Dictionary every second of millennium over misguided Brighty in Bulgaria.

09 May 2024 20:00:59
Posted as tongue in cheek Baz, I’m not taking her out on Saturday, she’s got the housework to do! 😂😂 I hope she never reads these posts, she will castrate me! 😳🫣😂 My prediction is that although it will be tough I just have this feeling that we will get our mojo back!

If DF goes back to Archie in defence and Bamford up front with Gnonto on with DJ waiting in the wings, I think we will do Norwich, 3-1 and Cry, Gnonto and DJ the scorers, the second leg very tight again and as long as we don’t capitulate like we did with Derby, then it will be 2-1 because they will be going for it. I just don’t think they have that hold over us like they used to, and I pray 🙏 that I’m right because Bazinald will never let me forget! 😂😂.

09 May 2024 22:09:19
Knew you sat there with a thesaurus by your side! 🤣🤣🤣
However, if you’ve ever actually studied the English Language, you would know that context adds to the definition, and that a thesaurus, while giving alternatives, is often totally incorrect if the word is not used within the correct context. That where smart arses fall down and look silly, using words out of context.

09 May 2024 23:41:12
Well.

It's finally happened! ;

there is some merit in one of Brights posts 🤣 pat on back ; beers on Bright.

08 May 2024 11:52:29
question regarding Cresswell, not seen him play much, he's a unit but can he play out from the back, Leeds like to play across CB's to make ground but is the reason cresswell never playing, is it because he's an old school CB?

08 May 2024 12:33:23
He isn't a ball playing CB.

But imo
Much more important

1) Can he tackle, block, defend, not be bullied, be uber commanding in the air etc etc

2) Is he a considerable attribute defending aerial set pieces, scoring from aerial set pieces


Yes, yes yes yes yes and yes are the answers

How many goals gave Leeds conceded recently? A lot

How many goals have Leeds scored from 2 thousand corners and free kicks approx . none

Trust in Farke? NOPE.

08 May 2024 13:33:01
I would've played him at points earlier this season, but as Baz said, he's not a ball playing CB, so doesn't really fit into DF's philosophy of possession over everything.

If he'd have been integrated into the team this season then he'd be useful for stuff that Baz (and George previously) has mentioned re; set pieces.

Just can't see him getting played while DF is in charge. Not good for the lad and his progression.

08 May 2024 14:33:27
Possession at all costs hasn't been working last 8 matches . Leeds shipping in 9 goals past 3 matches alone

This is Champo level not Champions League. and Cressy has more than proven himself at this level.

08 May 2024 16:57:41
Baz, I think I am of a mind to play Cresswell, but I am not sure it is going to make a huge difference to our attacking prowess? I stand to be corrected, but hasn't he got something like 5 career goals [at all levels? ] of which 2 were headers?

As Dill says, it's probably moot now anyway, he's unlikely to get a chance this season now, and probably no chance at all if we are promoted. Maybe, if we don't get up, he will get a chance next season. I always have a look out for him after the game and his attitude still seems good and Farke always seems to make an effort to speak with him after games.

08 May 2024 18:02:26
Fair post Ani

I think he scored 4 or 5 last season in 26 matches which is 4 or 5 more than our entire midfield, plus Rodon, Baby Shack, Firpo etc.

08 May 2024 18:09:16
DF has failed with all of our Young talent this season!

08 May 2024 21:52:25
Most of our team is young talent, we have the second youngest squad in the Championship after Sunderland.

08 May 2024 22:20:08
Cressy scores 1 in 6 Championship level so may very well affect positively our attacking prowess. Can see him performing better at the back than LOL.

08 May 2024 23:01:19
DF definitely won’t use cresswell for last 2-3 games but just thinking next season.
It’s very strange as Rodon and Amps were fantastic for many games but defensively we are poor now, maybe down to forwards not holding the ball, MF not playing as well too and put pressure on them.
Hope it can be sorted by sunday and still confident we can get up.

08 May 2024 23:38:35
DF just doesn't trust Cresswell. He thinks he is still too rash. When Cresswell has played farke has been vocal about him diving in or going to ground too readily.

09 May 2024 02:21:14
Ben . Cooper, Firpo are both notorious for being rash amd diving in.

Other Leeds defenders have done so too

Cressy and Matteo deserve better.

09 May 2024 08:15:13
Yes I know baz. I am only saying what I seen in the one or two games Cresswell has played. Mind you he has only played Cooper rarely and I think firpo only gets the nod for the left foot and assisting.
That is why I think where ever we end up there will be wholesale changes to the back line.
In my opinion amps needs freeing to be a midfielder.

09 May 2024 09:42:20
Yes Ben . next season whichever division Leeds be in . major changes in defence squad required.