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Favourite player: Tony Yeboah


Best team moment: Becoming last First Division Champions


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07 May 2021 18:06:29
Phillips and Raph both shown back in training today in video on lutv 😎.

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26 Jul 2020 13:52:08
Guess you'll all have seen the rumour that Corberan may be looking at taking Gotts on loan for the dog botherers. Obviously it goes against better instinct to help that lot too much, and doubtless their fans wouldn't be too chuffed with any suggestions that they were becoming our unofficial B team. However, it might make sense for both clubs for several of our second string to spend a season there.

On the other hand, now we have Category One status our reserves will mainly be up against players mainly from the Prem. Is it better for players like Gotts McCalmont, Miazek (? ) , Edmondson to get real competitive games or more skilful players in less meaningful games?

Clueless

1.) 30 Jul 2020 11:19:06
I think one or two will end up on loan there, which would be good for them!


 

 

05 Feb 2020 22:36:45
Am I the only one that's thinking we ought to be talking to James Milner asap about coming in next season on a player/ coach basis, regardless of which division we are in. With his attendance of last night's game at Anfield, and inspirational talk in dressing room etc, it would seem obvious that he would be interested in working on the coaching side sooner or later. Clearly he's hoping to continue playing next season ND perhaps offering him the first steps in coaching too might help convince him that next season is the time to rejoin us.

Clueless

1.) 05 Feb 2020 23:45:30
I would have thought that, if he is still here next season, Bielsa would welcome Milner as both player and nascent coach, and there can't be many managers out there who wouldn't see him as a great addition, with his incredible fitness levels, professionalism and versatility. Younger players would surely be inspired by playing with and learning from a recent winner of the Champions League and (probably also the Premier League) .


2.) 06 Feb 2020 09:36:55
100% agreed pal! The lad is a model pro, and as he is Leeds born, would be an amazing addition to both the playing, and coaching side of the club. Now is the time to make moves!


3.) 06 Feb 2020 10:47:38
He would love to come back. It would make sense financially. He could live back at home and nip home for lunch and let the dog out. What's not to like.


4.) 06 Feb 2020 22:11:46
Maybe the dog could get a game?


5.) 08 Feb 2020 12:55:45
Thought the dog was already under contract with the Terriers.


6.) 09 Feb 2020 11:43:56
what a bunch of weak willed individuals we have in this team, a frail and crumbling team, brentford are going to toast us on tuesday. we will soon be outside the top 6. no doubt about it.


 

 

16 Dec 2019 18:08:35
I'm guessing the rumour about Andre Ayew if guff, with someone putting two and two together and making 22.

Clueless

1.) 17 Dec 2019 00:29:17
Hope so.


2.) 19 Dec 2019 17:09:11
I dismissed it as just talk because he’ll be on premiership wages.


 

 

30 Jul 2019 14:57:51
Anyone heard anything by way of confirmation on Shack's possible thigh injury, or on why Edmondson did not feature against Girona at 4th e weekend?

Clueless

1.) 30 Jul 2019 18:50:31
Also some news on Ayling and Roberts?


2.) 31 Jul 2019 14:00:51
ayling + tyler out along obviously bwith kemar + the hatchet man suspended, lots of activity in BC squad this summer i think, vut hopefully we will rinse them, we need to hit ground running and build morale by winning games whilst hopefully playing attractive football.


 

 

 

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14 Jun 2021 12:51:13
Coops starts this aft for Scotland 😎.

Clueless

1.) 14 Jun 2021 13:01:19
I hope he does well because he seems like a lovely bloke and he is Leeds. But I fear my prediction is that his man scores from set plays throughout this tournament because delivery will be better and he cannot mark his man (or maybe he is so busy marking or watching his man he forgets he is supposed to actually be winning a header so doesn’t attack the balll and is always half a step behind) .


2.) 14 Jun 2021 13:20:55
Well let's hope he starts against England then and we get 4 or 5 set plays.


3.) 14 Jun 2021 15:44:37
Case rested I fear.


4.) 14 Jun 2021 16:06:08
To be fair, Coops can’t really take all the blame for their first goal, he played some pretty decent long balls in the first half, certainly can’t be blamed for Scotland’s poor decision making overall. He can’t be blamed for O’Donnell blocking off Christie when was breaking into the box etc, etc.

Have to wonder why Forrest wasn’t playing from the start, ahead of O’Donnell, as he had an impact when he came on.

It would be just typical if Scotland raised their game and England went in complacent on Friday.


5.) 14 Jun 2021 16:25:38
The one drawback for Scotland is, they have too many bang average players. A couple who have a springkling of talent and a couple who should not even be there.


6.) 14 Jun 2021 19:22:43
Agreed to an extent clue, but how many times this season did we see the opposition score or get a good header on goal with coops half a step behind the attacker exactly like today. Didn’t happen anywhere near as much with Struick or Llorente (although he looked a little dodgy in the air for his first game or two) .


 

 

12 Jun 2021 18:10:39
Thoughts and prayers with Christian Eriksen, his family and the Denmark team and staff.

Clueless

1.) 12 Jun 2021 18:37:59
Awful, hopefully he pulls through.


2.) 12 Jun 2021 19:21:29
Very upsetting scenes, hopefully he will make a full recovery. Football not important at times like this. Thoughts with his family at this time. Really puts life into perspective.

Baz.


3.) 12 Jun 2021 20:17:55
Awake and sat up in hospital so great news. Really hope it's not a Muamba situation and that he can make it back on a football pitch some time soon. Most important thing is that he's pulled through for now and that he gets his health back.


4.) 12 Jun 2021 21:40:42
100% Clu. Didn’t see it, and nor do I want to. I hope he pulls through, as will every fan of football.


 

 

12 Jun 2021 07:12:08
I presume all of us hope soon to hear that Marcelo Bielsa has signed for another season, and that most if not all hope he’s here for a good number of seasons after that - I certainly do.

With that in mind, I was wondering whether a possible eventual heir to Bielsa could perhaps currently be working in the most unlikely of places - Bolton Wanderers.

I know, I never thought I’d think, let alone write such words - Bolton Wanderers, the club so long synonymous with the long ball.

The man in question is Ian Evatt - what? I hear you say - a central defender, who played briefly in the. Prem with Blackpool?

Before any of you send men in white jackets with a padded van to cart me off to an asylum, just hear me out on this.

Evatt has become somewhat of a student of the game, trying to learn from the best managers to have graced these shores in recent years. Having studied the works of Guardiola and Klopp (and early Mourinho) he took it upon himself to bring possession based, high pressing football to Barrow AFC in the National League. Within two seasons he got them promoted to League 2, being 7 points clear when c.v. brought the season to a close.

His success led League 2 Bolton to appoint him for last season. He set about converting that club’s football philosophy too, and for additional help in this studied the wonder that is Bielsaball at Leeds, and part way through the season went as far as to adopt murderball within the training there. The result of that speaks for itself - they were promoted to League 1, playing proper football - topping the League 2 charts in possession and passing accuracy. They certainly didn’t suffer from ‘Bielsa burnout’ with a late charge from tenth to clinch the third promotion spot, just three points off League champs Cheltenham.

Clearly success at a lower level does not necessarily mean he’s destined to take over at a great Club like Leeds. However before you rush to judgment, I suggest you listen to a podcast interview done by The Athletic during lockdown, and before he took on the Bolton job, entitled ‘How Ian Evatt Turned Barrow into Barrowcelona’. This gives an insight into his approach to football management (very strong on positive man-management) and life in general, and left me with a strong feeling that he would end up somewhere in the Prem in due course - and if Bielsaball is now his thing, maybe, just maybe, that could be with Leeds.

Clueless

{Ed001's Note - I think that is a great shout Clueless.}


1.) 12 Jun 2021 09:11:35
Thanks Ed.

{Ed001's Note - very welcome mate.}


2.) 12 Jun 2021 09:43:15
Clueless, what a great post. That show an brilliant scope of knowledge on the topic of football and I shall certainly be watching Blackpools progress this year as a result. They were my grandads team show I have always had a soft spot for them (mind you they gave me a right hiding when I went with my tranmere mates to an away game and chose the wrong entrance turnstiles) .


3.) 12 Jun 2021 10:28:48
What Axe said! Best post I’ve possibly ever read on here, and very insightful! 👏🏻👏🏻👍🏻.


4.) 12 Jun 2021 10:33:09
Cheers Axe - I must admit that rather than a large scope of knowledge my post perhaps shows an ability to spot a potentially interesting snippet of info and do some rapid research to find out more.

Feel free to watch Blackpool’s progress on their return to the Championship - I will be, always had a bit of a soft spot for them since Holloway’s boys (most especially Charlie Adam, but aided by Evatt and others on the actual pitch) briefly gave us some bargain options in Fantasy Premier League - helping me to win my work mini-League in it’s first season. Looks like Olly Casey could be heading their way for the coming season, or longer, too. However, in relation to this post I suggest you also watch Bolton in League 1 as they seek back to back promotions.


5.) 12 Jun 2021 11:56:48
Can’t help but love Holloway, and what he achieved with Blackpool. Loved his post match interviews too! Real character!


6.) 12 Jun 2021 12:16:32
Clueless, your modesty illuminates you further.


7.) 12 Jun 2021 13:07:03
If Blackpool are disciples of Bielsaball then would not be too upset to see two or three of our U23s go there on loan.


8.) 12 Jun 2021 13:24:13
Breathless clueless. In awe.


9.) 12 Jun 2021 13:25:17
Agree bright. Pots.


10.) 12 Jun 2021 15:11:11
Interesting post Clu ( as usual)

However

A few points regarding Evatt's alleged credentials: first of all one would expect any competent manager to have Bolton challenge successfully for promotion in lowly League 2 : so finishing 3rd ok fine


Secondly interestingly Evatt's initial methods were clearly failing at Bolton for the first half of the season as Bolton were a very ineffectual 17th after 24 games far closer to relegation than promotion
.
The key point it seems is that as you say Evatt then introduced Bielsa Ball part way through the season

with good effect it seems as Bolton must have won most of their matches second half of season to reach 3rd (

However was that mostly or even solely due to superior fitness against not very fit Div 2 players?

Or does Evatt actually improve players technocal skills?

Thirdly, Evatt's overall win and loss managerial record is a little bit underwhelming especially as it in the lower leagues where one would anticipate that a truly outstanding coach manager would walk Div 2 level for example

P144 W65 D31 L48 Evatt has lost exactly 1/ 3 of his matches, quite a lot.

Bielsa is unique but credit to Evatt for his efforts!

To conclude, though I think there is more chance of the men in white coats coming for you Clu ( and Axe, Brighty and Aus 😃) than there is Evatt being a future Leeds United manager ( or EPL manager) . 😜😉.


11.) 12 Jun 2021 15:50:36
P. S. Not sure Clu why Axe, Brighty and Leo are all talking about Blackpool and Bielsaball

as Evatt manages Bolton ( not Blackpool) as you clearly referenced throughout your posts. ☺️.


12.) 12 Jun 2021 16:11:29
Cheers for your feedback Baz Have you actually listened to the interview with Evatt which I flagged.? If not, I would suggest you do, as It gives rather more insight into what he actually did with players at Barrow, and his overall approach.


13.) 12 Jun 2021 16:50:17
Any time Clu

More pertinently be interesting to see how Evatt's Bolton gets on this season at a higher level League 1 Clu ;

that for me will give further and better evidence / indication of his current coaching abilities.


14.) 12 Jun 2021 17:10:06
Because he also referenced Blackpool, which we also picked up on?


15.) 13 Jun 2021 08:56:23
BV


I promise to watch Bolton too. I just don't have an anecdote about them.

(Plus Blackpool are in a higher league so thete will be more chances of seeing them on the telly than Bolton)


 

 

08 Jun 2021 09:03:50
Just in case Vile Dave, Whacky Backy and fellow Vile fans are still snooping around after yesterday’s banter below, here’s how I see it.

We Leeds fans are absolutely loving our re-emergence as a force in the Prem, and the prospect of challenging for and then within European football. We are also enjoying the unexpected current status of favourite second team among many other fans and pundits. Equally we relish our usual status as most reviled team/ rival. Whatever way we are viewed, loved or loathed, everybody always really wants to beat Leeds.

On the other hand no-one, other than Vile fans (and I guess fans of your city rivals) really cares about your club - I guess you could be seen as Aston Vanilla - rather bland/ middle of the road. Your list of celebrity fans is topped by HRH Prince William and another Vile Dave (David Cameron) , and includes other establishment figures such as former head of the CBI Sir Digby Jones and Mervyn King former Governor of the Bank of England.

Researchers in the States have found that support for Leeds globally, particularly among the apparently much prized Generation Z, is growing significantly faster than for other recently promoted teams - which will include your beloved Vanilla. This will be building on our significantly underestimated existing global fan base. New fans are being drawn to us by our compelling style of football under the genius Bielsa, and will be drawn further in by our equally compelling history, including the widely acknowledged fact that we were twice cheated by bent referees on the European stage. and our resultant anti-establishment status, which has been further fed by the fairly constant battles we’ve faced with footballing authorities. For most it will become an enduring love affair.

Conversely, while new fans outside Birmingham may be drawn to Vanilla by any fleeting success you may have, most will probably soon give you up for the latest flavour of the day.

Clueless

1.) 08 Jun 2021 09:55:59
Here’s an interesting stat, Aston vanilla as u call us, 109 seasons spent in the top flight of English football, second on the all time list only behind Everton, Leeds united 52 seasons in the top flight 😂😂😂 so I ask how long till your relegated once again. you can grow all you want in the states or be everyone’s favourite second team but people generally don’t buy jerseys and support the club financially, your right to enjoy the resurgence mate cause as history shows you’ll be back down in a few years 🤭.


2.) 08 Jun 2021 10:46:47
And 4th on all time PL loss table.
Lost more PL games than you have won!


3.) 08 Jun 2021 11:10:45
And again another notorious ' Disingenuous Whacky Backy 'and Vile Dave posts that are as always simply dishonest 🙄

Whack you surpassed yourself with your latest disingenuous comparison: of number of seasons in the top flight

because Leeds United founded in 1919 are 45 years younger than the Vile founded in 1874.


Furthermore Whack you do realise the Vile are REGULARS at getting relegated they have been relegated a whopping SIX times lol 😂 found that one absolutely hilarious 😃

1936,1959 1967,1987,2016 to Div 2
1970 to. Div 3

Source Wikipedia ok Whack 😃

And my all time favourite Vile stat 1911 to 2021 one top flight league trophy 😜

So 110 years of Vile being sh1t/ mediocre in the League 😃😜

Congrats Whack 😜.


4.) 08 Jun 2021 11:37:59
Indeed Canada the Vile have laughably lost well over a 100 EPL games than they have won.


I akso think most supporters only value stats and trophies won during their lifetime.


5.) 08 Jun 2021 12:44:18
Oh dear Whacky, you’re missing my point. You suggested we should enjoy our success, and I’m merely confirming to you that we are doing so, but also that we revel in the fact that whatever our status in the football pyramid, fans of other clubs still have a strong feeling about us, usually revulsion, which is fine by us. Ask any non-Vanilla fan who doesn’t live in Birmingham about your club and they’ll probably just shrug with indifference. Football isn’t just about stats, it’s about passion for your team, and perhaps about other teams, rivals or not. Currently most Leeds fans have a feeling of distain for Vanilla, due largely to the thuggery shown by your players at Elland Road three seasons ago. Leeds played to the whistle, and your lot kicked off big time. Bielsa instructed our players to allow you to equalise - which other team would have done that? - yes, none, And yet Grealish and Hourihane still saw fit to confront and hit Klich after the whistle. In a few seasons time we will probably have reverted to indifference toward you, like all other non-Birmingham fans.

Our last relegation was due solely to financial incompetence by Ridsdale, overpaying for players we didn’t really need, and we will not be making mistakes like that again. It is Vanilla who have been writing the blank cheques of late. Had you not sneaked up two years ago you would have been in financial meltdown. Your first season back you splashed the cash again yet only stayed up due to the Blades ghost goal. We spent very judiciously last season and finished above you. This summer you’ve already overpaid for Buendia, and may well overpay for other players too in a desperate bid to prevent another downward slide.

Radrizzani and the 49ers will ensure our development on and off the pitch is sustainable. You suggest that our current rapid growth in support won’t help us financially. In case you didn’t know, Generation Z is one of the most sought after demographics for commercial purposes, so rapidly growing support in this grouping will increase the club’s attractiveness to potential sponsors globally, as well as individually boosting shirt sales. Our Club is taking a number of steps to further accelerate growth in support in the Far East and elsewhere - and yes, that will generate shirt sales. As I said previously, once our compelling football draws new supporters in the Leeds family’s story and the us against the world mentality it engenders is likely to become imprinted on their emotional DNA, so they’re more likely to stick with us even in the unlikely event that we get relegated at some point in the future.

Finally, turning to your interesting stats - 27 of your years in the ‘top flight’ were before Leeds United’s formation, so can be discounted for comparative purposes. Getting on to what you’ve actually done with your additional years in the top flight, your league glory years are very much before WW1, and before Leeds came into being. Since which point you’ve won the league only once (being in the top 3 on five occasions) , whereas we’ve won 3 times and been top 10 10 times.

Actually your just hanging on in there existence within the top flight is very much part of your ‘Vanilla’ characteristic. While we were away from the top flight for those 16 years your only ‘achievement’ was to jointly win the Intertoto Cup in 2008/ 09. That says it all really. Not exactly the stuff to stir the passions of potential new supporters/ shirt buyers.


6.) 08 Jun 2021 12:57:20
It really is time you stopped trying to bait them though Baz.
I know I dislike Vile (a recent development based on the clubs actions over the last few years) but you are on a different level!


7.) 08 Jun 2021 13:13:09
Can’t see why you all bite, ignore it and it will get bored and leave.


8.) 08 Jun 2021 13:22:11
Oh my Class very insightful posts that will go way over the head of the vast majority of ( dim and deluded ) Vile fans 😂

Canada my dislike and disdain of Vile stems from the same development.


9.) 08 Jun 2021 14:17:57
Ok so out of your 95 (there or there abouts) seasons of football you spent 43 of them outside the top league, therefore probably easier to win games playing against non elite teams, in that time you won 5 trophies, 7 if u count charity shields, in that time we’ve won 10 and 13 if u count the Mickey Mouse charity shield and intertoto cups.
it don’t matter which way u spin it you have being less successful than us and I’m not trying to insult anyone that’s just facts, the history books don’t lie,
And yes I remember that thuggery, same time bamford threw himself on the ground because of a ghost slap from a villa player, then to be punished for it afterwards with our player exonerated, not a great example of how your players were better people than our lads in all honesty.


10.) 08 Jun 2021 14:44:11
Maybe leave this one now eh lads?


11.) 08 Jun 2021 15:54:12
Oh dear, Whacky one. My principal point is that, despite your historic successes, no-one other than your own fans and those of your city rivals really give a toss about your bland Vanilla team club. Why don’t you toddle off to some other club’s fan forum in search of someone who might be bothered to consider your lot as rivals.


12.) 08 Jun 2021 18:24:37
Mate if you read back the threads we were all having grown up conversation until bitter baz started with the childish stuff, beforehand we were talking about transfers, progression you know adult kinda stuff, I didn’t pop round to go over the same stuff as last year, I have said on numerous occasions I don’t see much difference between our clubs and if fact lots of similarities.


13.) 09 Jun 2021 09:23:48
Whackattack 100% agreed mate how did he get passed the ED when others can’t,


14.) 09 Jun 2021 09:25:45
Whackattack Leeds have won 9 in my history with the charity shields how many have Villa won in your history?


 

 

02 Jun 2021 22:56:49
Baz - I presume you were talking about the six-man shortlist for the PFA Young Player award.

Canada - The Premier League also has a Young Player of the Season Award, which has a shortlist of 8 - which includes Ilan Meslier - so get voting folks!

premierleague.com/news/2160566

You’ll see that the list of also-rans includes: Calvert-Lewis, Dias, Foden, Mount, Rashford, Rice and Saka. No Mason Greenwood in this one!

Clueless

1.) 03 Jun 2021 00:02:34
Voted.


2.) 03 Jun 2021 06:10:18
Indeed I was Clu . the PFA Young Player award.


3.) 03 Jun 2021 07:38:15
And while you are at it don't forget to vote for Bielsa as manager of the season:

premierleague.com/news/2160559


 

 

 

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14 Jun 2021 10:32:26
Not happening. As Gummie says, huge pay cut required - currently on a mere £331,000 a week. Everton supposedly interested, and I guess they might push to around half his current wage, their current highest are Bernard and Yery Mina - both on £120,000 - and it’s perhaps the kind of desperate stunt they might pull to try to get in the mix for a European place next season - signing James Rodriguez was a slightly lower level move in this ‘Hollywood’ direction - though he’s only on £90,000.

Though Marcelo generally seems a fairly decent bloke, having such a high profile player within the club does not seem like a move Bielsa would want to make. He seems to be a team player, but even so the addition of such a player could risk unbalancing the current dynamics within the squad and the club as a whole.

Beckham is supposedly also interested in taking him to Miami, and of course they’ve been friends since they played together at Real in Marcelo’s first season there. Most importantly perhaps, media outlets in Spain seem to be reporting that the player actually wants to see out the last year of his contract there - currently vice-captain and could be made captain if, as expected, Sergio Ramos leaves. He also has a good relationship with Ancelloti, who gave him more playing time than any other manager during his previous stint at Real. Of course the player could be saying this to help push up the wage suitors might offer through his agent, to entice him away. Either way, can’t see him playing here next season.

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01 Jun 2021 17:04:05
And not from both feet at that price.

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21 Feb 2020 22:48:56
If we can manage to win the next four AND KP is able to avoid a further 3 yellow cards in those fixtures, we could go into the tough games v Baadiff and Fulham quite handily placed for the final straight.

Fulham have an incredibly tough run-in. 8 of their last 12 games are against teams ranked above the 12th placed Tups, with whom they've drawn tonight - and only 1 is against a team in the bottom 8.

After QPR tomorrow, the florists remaining fixtures include 4 of the bottom 8, but the rest are in the top 13.

Brentford have 5 of the bottom 8 to face but also 6 in the top half of the table.

We are yet to face 7 of the bottom 8 and 5 in the top half.

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19 Feb 2020 15:59:10
For his effrontery of speaking truth to power in that way, I'm surprised the FA didn't ban Victor from all football related activities 'til the end of the season. Surely we should be grateful for even being allowed to play football anymore and realise it's not our place to be ask to be treated in the same way as other clubs.

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05 Feb 2020 23:45:30
I would have thought that, if he is still here next season, Bielsa would welcome Milner as both player and nascent coach, and there can't be many managers out there who wouldn't see him as a great addition, with his incredible fitness levels, professionalism and versatility. Younger players would surely be inspired by playing with and learning from a recent winner of the Champions League and (probably also the Premier League) .

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14 Jun 2021 16:06:08
To be fair, Coops can’t really take all the blame for their first goal, he played some pretty decent long balls in the first half, certainly can’t be blamed for Scotland’s poor decision making overall. He can’t be blamed for O’Donnell blocking off Christie when was breaking into the box etc, etc.

Have to wonder why Forrest wasn’t playing from the start, ahead of O’Donnell, as he had an impact when he came on.

It would be just typical if Scotland raised their game and England went in complacent on Friday.

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13 Jun 2021 21:09:15
Greetings in peace Dave. To be fair, your lad Mings also put in decent performance and remained composed throughout.

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13 Jun 2021 16:47:41
KP absolute class. It would be interesting to hear what Cashley ‘ole thought of that performance.

To be fair, the Vile Minger also put in a decent and composed performance. Guess Vile Dave and Wacky might check out our thoughts on the match. So, fellas, if you’re having a sly look, you’ll see I am prepared give praise to Vile players when it’s due - you should have noticed that I’ve previously complemented Grealish, even though I dislike him for his antics during and after that match at Elland Road.

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13 Jun 2021 16:32:02
Certainly am. I’ve even put the lad in my fantasy team - and his teammate Elmas, who we are allegedly interested in - come on North Macedonia! It will be a great story if they can put in a good showing in their first ever major tournament. Imagine if Greece had qualified, and they’d been in the same group - would have been a bit tasty on the pitch, particularly with wind-up merchant Alioski.

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13 Jun 2021 00:04:31
Indeed. Spurs and Liverpool have already had similar Permavoid systems installed.

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