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10 Jun 2019 17:23:22
Just can't see Rads having the funds required in order to get the quality that's needed in. Think that is why we have not invested in the squad properly and then failed to invest in January. All the talk about MB being happy with a small squad and only wanting one player in January is all just spin. Rads did not have the readies to buy James in January and tried to get him on the never never. Don't get me wrong I like MB and think Rads is doing his best, what I dislike is Rads and his spin team thinking we are all fools and will swallow any line the club throws out.
Very poor from Rads when a few million could have strengthened the team enough to get up and he then looses out on £350 million.
Will that chance present itself for him again? Not without investment!

Leeds1970

1.) 10 Jun 2019 21:39:33
You're probably right '70. Just reading that we don't have 6mil spare for a CB.


2.) 11 Jun 2019 08:33:09
1970 If mb wasn’t happy with a small squad he’d have walked. He’s walked for far less in the past and if you look back at the club teams he’s managed he’s always done it with a small squad. As for the James saga it wouldn’t have mattered if rads had put up £30 million as there chairman wasn’t going to let the deal through under any circumstances as in his own words he delayed the deal until it was too late in the interest of the club. We had agreed a fee with the owners but can’t do anything about a kamikaze chairman going rogue can we.


3.) 11 Jun 2019 10:57:33
We don't have any money available for signings other than loan signings. Unless we get a load of cash injected from somewhere we will be looking at loans only.


4.) 11 Jun 2019 11:42:42
Alf only a handful of people know what money we have. If you go around bragging you’ve got a £20 million war chest then average £1 million pound players become £5 million pound players as all the clubs will increase there players value to a club they know has money.


5.) 11 Jun 2019 14:17:00
That's what is often banded about TTIAO but I'm not convinced myself. The noises coming out of people close to the club seem to confirm the fact that we have no money and we are focussing on loans. I can see a cash signing if we sell a few but so far nobody has been sold so we don't have any funds to sign anyone new. Even if we did the funds we make seem to evaporate - look at last season for instance.


6.) 11 Jun 2019 14:39:59
It’s called overheads Alf, better a chairman living within our means than one like Peter risedale.


7.) 11 Jun 2019 17:21:24
Indeed TTIAO, but that doesn't suggest a club with loads of money just keeping schtum - it suggests a club with no money.


8.) 11 Jun 2019 17:34:50
All down to interpretation as always. Loans cost money too, in loan fees, and wages. Thanks to wages in the PL, and player values, loans are the only viable option if we are to stay within the bounds of FFP. The only way to purchase players, when you’ve not got parachute payments, are “ ones for the future”.


9.) 12 Jun 2019 07:45:27
They think it’s all over, get real! And while your at it take your head out of Rads’ backside . He either hasn’t got a pot or isn’t prepared to invest in the first team and tried to buy DJ on the never never, hence it fell through and as a result probably cost us promotion .


10.) 12 Jun 2019 12:05:10
RHC FORKING LOVE YOU BRO! 💙💛.


11.) 12 Jun 2019 12:23:32
Bright - FFP is just an excuse.

The way i understand it we are comfortably within the limits imposed by the EFL having a £12.2m deficit for the three season cycle 2015/ 18. We are allowed up to £15m without any input from the owner and £39m if the owner makes up the defecit. So to my mind that means we could spend £26.8m this season if we wanted to and still be within the limits providing the owner stumps up some cash, in our case, to the tune of £24m. That would be plenty to get some decent players in.

Even if you factored in the operating losses of £4.3m. Hell, let's round that up to $5m operating losses and we would still be able to spend £21.8m this season and be compliant.

We make the most revenue in the league (discounting clubs with parachute payments) of £40.7m so how we still make a loss of £4.3m is also a bit of a worry for me and that was after we took into account £18.1m generated through player sales (although to be fair we also invested over £10m in new players and their wages) . we hardly broke the bank though.


12.) 12 Jun 2019 12:51:14
Georgie it’s mutual my brother!


13.) 12 Jun 2019 14:28:00
Well explained young Alfred.

Any chance you could take a look at my tax return for me?

MM.


14.) 12 Jun 2019 16:58:57
Since when did you start completing them MM?


15.) 12 Jun 2019 17:29:24
Yes Alf, but wages are part of the P&L, so £26.8 mill doesn’t leave much for transfer costs, if you buy a couple of players for 10mill, then pay them 40k per week, which is exactly my point. Loans are a much shrewder way forward, then invest when we get promoted.


 

 

26 Feb 2019 19:25:47
How much has Rads put in to buy and run the club for last 2 seasons?

We know we have turned over in excess of £50m per season, that equals £100m. He has had up to £35m in in transfers, Wood, Viera, Saiz ( and Taylor? ). He has had £12m from the 49'rs. Add to this the £25m debt he has used as well. that's in the region of £170m, Without adding in any of Rads funds mentioned as part of his original investment. Reportedly these funds included money to buy the club £40m, the ground £20m and £20m transfer kitty, a total of £80m. This all adds up to over £250m. Bought the club for £40m and the ground £20m that's £60m .

That leaves over £190m. There has not been massive investment in the playing squad ( Our biggest outlay has been a £200k fine from the EFL, ! ) . The average wage of £20k a week is £1m year for a squad of 22, that's about £22m plus management and U23's allow £8m to £10m. So say £65m over 2 seasons. Based on the above there is no reason why we should have any money worries, unless some of the above is incorrect, there appears to be about £100m shortfall in my figures?

Leeds1970

1.) 26 Feb 2019 23:03:11
Leeds1970

Guess you are NOT an accountant.

Where on earth did you get those figures from?

Sorry, I now realise you are a creative accountant!

Met a few of those in my life, thank goodness.

MOT.


2.) 27 Feb 2019 13:21:48
I think I'll wait for the club accounts :) also you forgot the purchase of ER, policing costs, the no-playing staff wages, business rates for ER and Thorp Arch, the upkeep of the aforementioned, owners and directors salaries, I'll stop now, Alzheimers kicking in ;)


3.) 28 Feb 2019 15:06:55
Massive investment in u23s
Issuing of longer contracts
Recruitment of more backroom staff. We now have a Dr pitchside thankfully
It’s not just the stuff in the papers

The whole club is on a better footing than it was under certain previous chairmen.


 

 

02 Jan 2019 12:52:02
Honestly think if Rads does not put in the investment needed to get up in this window, he is absolutely mad and will be to blame if this opportunity is not taken. All this talk of punching above your weight, you are where you are in the league on results and after 26 games we are top and deserve to be, because we have won the most points . There are 20 games left and we need to continue to be able to perform and play our brand of football for all of these games .

Leeds1970

1.) 02 Jan 2019 14:21:14
So no blame in your opinion for bielsa who has said he doesn't want or need players? You might think you know more than bielsa leeds1970 but I prob think he's forgotten more than you and I know about coaching.

In bielsa I trust.


2.) 02 Jan 2019 14:46:59
Martyn is right! Absolutely no point in buying players that Bielsa doesn’t want. He is so specific about how he plays and the qualities that he wants. In summer he has a lot more time to mould players but not now. Bielsa has to be honest about his squad and what he wants and then see what happens. We probably will never know the ins and outs!

Other thing to bear in mind that given the regime of the team under Bielsa, not every player will be up for it. So some will rule themselves out!


3.) 02 Jan 2019 17:54:11
Well. put Spanish. To some players it will be too much like hard work.


4.) 02 Jan 2019 18:33:59
Think MB said he was happy with the players, because he did not want to undermine the current players confidence by saying some of them might be replaced . You offer any manager the option of better players and they will want them, it goes without saying. You just don't want to undermine the good players you want to keep.


5.) 02 Jan 2019 19:17:43
He also said January is never a good time to buy players because you pay over inflated prices. If players are really that good their teams don't let them go in January unless offers above their worth come in.


6.) 02 Jan 2019 20:22:38
Martyn is spot on,

How many players are going to be available that

Bielsa wants
Want to come here
Will be able to contribute to this style from day one
Are available
Are better than what we have got?

It’s not going to be an enormous list!


7.) 02 Jan 2019 20:45:21
Here here spanish. Someone thinking with their head and not their heart.


8.) 02 Jan 2019 21:48:51
Bang right Martyn, and Spanish. That list of players is zero. The style and pace of MB’s game plan means that no one can walk in, in this window, and be able to play at the same level of the players we already have. Money would be wasted, on anything but a GK, and even that person would need to have the distribution skills that have made Bailey our #1, and to be fair, for his flaws, there are not many keepers who can do what Marcelo asks for from the GK position.


9.) 03 Jan 2019 17:56:38
it is possible to make signings and not out them in the team immediately though. there are still plenty of games up to May and nowt wrong with bringing someone on board and working with them on the training ground and U23s for a few months then bring them in to reinforce us during the run in.


 

 

20 Dec 2018 17:21:24
For me it would be a keeper and utility defender/ centre back. On top of these 2 saw the names of Adam Reach and Andy King mentioned, would take both with a striker to replace Saiz / share the workload up front. Top quality players on loan to buy, 6 months wages for a few top players is not going to cost the earth. 3 to 5 million invested now would really strengthen our challenge. 24 games to go and if we got 45 points we would be in a very strong position. Win all our home games and get some draws, maybe 3 or 4 win on the road. Long way to go, a good start is half the battle.

Leeds1970

 

 

 

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17 Jun 2019 17:53:14
Anyone any idea where we are with any signings?

What date are the players back for pre-season?

It all seems a little quite at the moment, plenty of grey noise from the press, but nothing actually going on, I know we do most of our business on the hush hush, but it seems just a little too quite at the moment!

Leeds1970

1.) 18 Jun 2019 15:00:41
We are close to signing our 3 favourite players: No-one, Nada and Naught.


2.) 18 Jun 2019 15:57:46
Tis obvious 3 things in George opinion. 1. We're lining up our targets. 2. We must sell first to enable the buys. 3. Jack Clarke will be sold to Spurs for around £18m within the next 10 days.


3.) 18 Jun 2019 21:35:36
Very true Georgie. Selling JC is the least damaging of the options that brings in money in terms of immediate impact. He is still going to be a few years in the making if he does make it to the very top. Interesting how Spurs want to develop him, in their own under 23 setup or out on loan somewhere. Back with us could be an option given the links between the two bosses but what will we do with him, squad and bench player?

Saiz is the other one that needs sorting to free up his wages and hopefully bring in a bit of cash.


 

 

16 Jun 2019 17:03:38
Reflecting on last season, what does everyone think, would it have made a difference from xmas onwards, if we had of set up more defensively, especially away from home against the top half teams. MB's policy of win every game is great when the team has the fresh legs. Would we have picked up more points if we had shut up shop a few few times or were we trying to retrieve games after going behind.

Leeds1970

1.) 16 Jun 2019 17:53:02
Don’t think they ran out of legs. The stats say energy levels were high still

Mental fatigue is another matter. That’s when individual mistakes came in

teams worked us out a bit too. If the stopped us scoring first and early it’s a different game

Think we lacked someone to shut the game down when the other team got on top. 20mins vs Derby being a prime example of losing a grip on the game

You need a midfield leader or two at those moments

Experience

Those players will have learned.


2.) 16 Jun 2019 18:28:53
Bollards bollards bollards. MB ain’t going to change his style. End of.


3.) 16 Jun 2019 18:36:43
Going to back to the conversation the other day - we didn’t replace Saiz ability to unlock stubborn defences with one killer pass. That’s perhaps when the mental fatigue comes in - heads drop. Cooper played beyond his ability last year - thanks to MB it seems - and is still prone to mistakes at crucial times and Pontus is a prima donna but the defence still conceded less goals than Norwich. We always have the possession we just lost the ability to convert it into goals. If Casilla stopped the stupid rushing out he’s a better goalie than BPF - I just don’t think he will at his age. We lost that bit of quality to say to teams you can stonewall all day but we’ll eventually unlock you. And by the way - Lampard did not tactically outwit Bielsa in the 2nd leg. We comprehensively outplayed Derby for 3.5 matches last season but then imploded due to stupidity in the match that mattered and the flair wasn’t in the team to recover from that in that match. If they are able to replace Saiz, they then need someone to protect that flair and tetchy personality. It doesn't need to be crass fouls, just someone with the presence to read the opposition their fortune and be able to tackle hard without going in with studs raised like our favourite Swiss.


4.) 17 Jun 2019 19:08:33
every team always need a plan b

it is great to set up like man city Barcelona or liverpool but when you ain't got the players it won't work all the time that's when plan b has to come in

end of the day we played great football but the boring dull sheff utd beat us with lesser players so subtance won over style. if mb don't learn and change style when needed we will never go up unless rads spends about 40 million to make sure we can do a wolves

the more i think about this season and how close we were last year the more i feel sick to my stomach.


5.) 17 Jun 2019 21:47:54
When we tappy lappy around with the ball around our defence, I’m having kittens, it’s a disaster waiting to happen and 2nd leg play off showed our frailties. Cooper always gets in a panic and is exposed for the poor defender he is but he’s not alone there.

We could have and should have signed Tommy Elphick who was a free agent but we’ve let Huddersfield get in before us. Elphick is much better than what we have and would’ve been ideal alongside Pontus. We need to sign a decent decent CB.
Instead we’re still chasing youth for small change.
Missed out on Reece Brown (Fleetwood) .

Just feeling really annoyed about Huddersfield get Elphick, so so seriously should have been a Leeds player now.


 

 

14 Jun 2019 17:41:17
On the two topics below, you can only judge Rads ability to invest in quality players by what he has spent to date or failed to spend, like in January. The other point on Saiz, I believe the big problem he had was frustration, I think he tried too hard, he became a marked man, with all opposition teams trying to stop him playing. He should have been rested, then played out on the left wing and not given the ball as much . At one stage every attacking move we made was to pass the ball to Saiz. The opposition had two players on him all the time . Both he and us got found out. It would be great to have him back firing on all cylinders, on his day best player in the league. There may also have been an element of homesickness, which got worse when things were not going right.

Leeds1970

1.) 14 Jun 2019 18:00:29
I agree to a degree, but when you are that kind of player, you should expect to get kicked, his problem was the way he took it. To create space for others, I’d have taken a lump hammer to the shins. Ok, maybe not, but you get chopped in football, but you do what you can do, for the team.


2.) 14 Jun 2019 18:05:24
Leeds1970 - agreed Saiz got targeted but that was because of the threat he posed. His was the flair that hasn’t yet been replaced. The killer final pass. Note how Klich goals dried up after he left and it also affected Pablo in my view, who serves us better on the wing because of his ability to cross the ball. Who truly knows why Saiz went but he should have been protected on the pitch whilst he was here. If Vinny Jones had been playing behind him some of those who constantly elbowed him in the ribs or tapped his ankles would have thought twice. We need that kind of presence again to protect our flair players.


3.) 14 Jun 2019 20:42:58
To a part, I agree. It would be useful to have some "presence" on the pitch but I would never want that instead of talent. I love Vinny, brilliant leader, but averagely talented. If only he had been Desailly.


4.) 14 Jun 2019 21:48:10
sorry axe but i got to disagree

vinne was great in this league the year we come up, a leader, showed grit, bossed games and often showed a touch of class, some of his goals in 89-90 were as good as any you would see

swap vinne for any of our midfielders this year and for me we would of gone up

we had no grit, no ability to boss the game, no one to grab ga, me by scruff of the neck when our perfect football didn't come off and we were a soft soft touch against poor team who took points from us they never should of took and cost us promotion

every team needs grit and a backbone we have no one other than pontus and last year we are soft as a 80 year olds lady melons.


5.) 14 Jun 2019 21:24:41
I agree, Saiz was man marked and rightly so. I'd have done that if I was an opposition coach.
As a player you keep trying as if you are good enough you can still make things happen.
You also have to pull defenders away by drifting out of the zone a little. If they don't follow you then you have your space if they do someone else has the space.
To me Saiz didn't do this enough and as a result became frustrated as he wasn't as involved as he'd like.
Do what's best for the team and we all win.


6.) 14 Jun 2019 22:01:28
Berm I've had quite enough of you now! Will the real Bermondsey please stand up? You've been talking sense for over 3 months now.


7.) 14 Jun 2019 22:02:36
Good post MP.


8.) 14 Jun 2019 22:06:00
I agree Bermo. But the kind of “grit” you’re talking about, the grit that I love, and taught as a coach, is not allowed anymore. And it’s sad. Football of old is gone. 😢.


9.) 14 Jun 2019 23:02:11
Not sure I’d go that far Georgie! But actually do agree about Vinnie, bought in specifically for a purpose and did his job. He moved on when he saw what was coming in the shape I’d one of our best midfield combinations ever and he is very honest about it. Incredible bloke! Just not sure Bielsa sees the need for that role, KP might be as far as he would go in that regard.

Saiz, great player but came at a cost that the bielsa regime just isn’t going to put up with. Went back to Spain for family reasons and I’m sure will be happy to stay there. He went back in December when.
things looked great for gods sake and he couldn’t cement a place in the Getafe 11, that says it all. I’m surprised if you come back from all that with Bielsa. He’s gone!


10.) 14 Jun 2019 23:34:25
Fair enough Bermo. Love it when you write positive stuff cos you expand on it well and its interesting stuff.

I agree with you, in the Championship Vinny would have been at the right level. Also agree he gave backbone to that Division 2 winning side

My only issue is the modern game would have passed him by, and refs would have got writer's cramp from his robust approach.


11.) 15 Jun 2019 12:56:06
i make axe and bright correct sadly the players that i love and think leeds need probably don't exsist and wouldn't fit todays game or last 20 minutes on the pitch

think the closest i seen this year was the sheff utd midfield and would give anything for either one of the them in particular mcginn who impressed me all seasons

the loss to them was a good example, we had all the game but they defended doggily then they had a couple of attacks and our weak spine couldn't handle it.

it is great to do a wolves but that costs money promotion on the cheap (which leeds look like we might have to do) can be done but by the likes of Cardiff and sheff utd which is less about nice football and more a dogged stability.


12.) 15 Jun 2019 13:23:55
Mcginn plays for Villa, Berm, but agree with sentiment!


13.) 15 Jun 2019 18:53:28
sorry yeah

i meant mcginn of villa or the two fellas for sheff utd, i'm getting old and even more stupid than i was in my young age.


 

 

13 Jun 2019 17:01:03
The deal to buy the Barcodes is supposedly for £350m. Rads must be thinking if only I had of spent a few million in January!

To get out of this league he has to invest in a bigger squad with the right quality. Funds seem to be very scarce. No investment as yet.

If we are mid table end of October think Rads might be gone by Christmas because if we look like we are not going up, we are then rolling over into season 4 of his ownership and given the current lack of investment, I cannot see him suddenly finding the funds to turn it around

His challenge is to improve the squad sufficiently to have a sustainable challange this season. If this does not appear to be on he might just have to sell sooner rather than later.

Leeds1970

1.) 13 Jun 2019 17:25:06
i think rads to his credit knew we needed players but couldn't afford it

bit like i know my wife needs lypo and botox but can't afford it

trouble is rads won't budge where as anyone who wants to pay for my wifes surgey can.


2.) 13 Jun 2019 18:38:05
Only joking BW! But it might be cheaper to buy a few players for Leeds.


3.) 13 Jun 2019 18:47:55
your not wrong 1970, leeds need imporving but my wife needs a major rehaul i would say at least 150 million pounds of work needed best way.


4.) 13 Jun 2019 22:32:51
Radz has to invest as MB will walk I do believe not matter how the fans feel they will not let him get away with it specially if as you have said by October if we are mid table.


5.) 13 Jun 2019 22:48:34
Didn't Radz's problems with Eleven Sports really start to kick in in January. While he maintained that it would have no direct impact on his ownership of Leeds, it must have made him feel much more exposed financially. And given these problems emerged in an area in which he had much experience and supposed expertise, it may also have caused him to question his own judgement more generally. It may therefore be that he had fully intended to splash some cash in January but that, given the wider circumstances, he felt limited to the apparent attempt to secure Dan James with minimal initial outlay. 49ers may also have had pause for thought on whether Radz and Leeds were quite so worthy of their backing as first thought, and therefore also been reluctant to fund reinforcements. Of course we may never know exactly why the necessary money was not forthcoming.


6.) 14 Jun 2019 06:39:57
Clueless, that's a very insightful piece. It got me thinking.


7.) 14 Jun 2019 07:25:49
clueless i think your post is spot on and probably very accurate

rads was always going to say his buisness going down the karzie would not affect leeds but it was always going to. many on here say rads knows best sucessful businessman etc. but he made a huge mistake that most saw coming, i now feel with his business gone he is cligning to us as a cash cow. making him not much better than bates.


8.) 14 Jun 2019 08:48:23
I thought it was Biesla who said he didn’t want any players in aug and was happy with the squad.
Radz May have messed up with James but originally it was Biesla. I think.


9.) 14 Jun 2019 09:40:10
Rada has lied to the fans so he will have no problem lying to Bielsa.


10.) 14 Jun 2019 10:35:23
We can carry on having this debate about Radz but it isn’t really going to get us anywhere. Not sure anybody on here really knows his exact financial position and the impact on his business of the disappointing sales of Italian football championship coverage. No one yet has been able to say how much more under the rules we could spend this year compared with what we are spending.

If you really feel that strongly about him, launch a Radz our campaign, boycott the games and put together an action plan to get him out. Whiteman has always impressed me with his personal boycott as at least he is taking some action.

Talking about him on here might make us feel better or worse but it’s not going to alter his actions . It really comes down to an individual judgement on what you believe and how much you are prepared to trust him. Not sure us spending the whole year on a Radz is bad, Radz is good, Radz is ok debate is going to help us move it on much.

I like what he has done at the club, I think last year he, Orta and Bielsa all made mistakes at different times that contributed to us missing a great opportunity but I believe it was close enough and good enough to justify another attempt this year! I accept some don’t agree with me and I respect your opinions, doesn’t make any of us a bad person. Doesn’t make any of us stupid either, everyone is capable of reading all the info out there and making their own conclusions as we do with KP, Kiko and everything else!

I have posted a separate item on here about the fair play financial restrictions and it might give us some factual basis for the investment in players debate if someone could actually make some kind of a calculation on how much we could “legally” spend on transfer fees and wages in 2019/ 20. I would imagine the figure must be calculable as clubs have to try and budget within it. If we could come up with that figure it would give us an idea of how much the real gap is between what we could spend and what we are spending.

Final point on the transfer and players front. We moan about the size of the squad but we do actually have a long list of players when you included all those out on loan who we paid some kind of a fee for and have a financial commitment to through their contracts, Saiz being a notable example. Even if we move these players on or get them out on loan again, that’s a lot of work that someone has to do that pulls resources from quality first team players. Need to sort that list of loaners out!


11.) 14 Jun 2019 11:12:12
Spanish

I concur, so this will be my last post regarding Radz.

I also worry about a huge long list of loaned out players and how they are affecting the first teams progress like a dead weight holding us back.


12.) 14 Jun 2019 13:20:54
It’s a long long list and must add up in terms of how much we paid for them and what our contracted salary commitment is.


 

 

07 Jun 2019 11:20:17
Danny Mills article makes a lot of sense regarding Rads, his finance's and why he needs to raise investment from various sources if he is as wealthy as reported . Why also would he look at another investor when 49'rs would most likely have put more dough in.

Leeds1970

1.) 07 Jun 2019 11:44:40
Not sure the 49ers want to be an active member with regards to the management of the club and with greater investment requires a larger percentage of the club and therefore the requirement to manage. Radz probably wants someone to put money in but let him run the show but I feel the 49ers investment is about looking for a quick profit if the club make the PL.


2.) 07 Jun 2019 12:42:39
i liked the danny mills article and agree 100%

what we have to remember is rads business away from leeds he spent a fortune on spanish and itialin football and then failed to secure a platform for it, he must of lost a fortune. he wasnt that rich to begin with and now is skint, he is holding on to leeds as we are the last good investment he made and he is trying to sell slices of the pie rather than the whole pie for the good of the club. i am not very impressed with Rads at the moment

it is not leeds fans fault he can't run his own business very well.


3.) 07 Jun 2019 14:23:17
He still has the 2 million rent to fall back on, bet that’s not included in any deal he’s doing now, don’t wish to say it , I told you so,


4.) 07 Jun 2019 14:24:29
Radz heart is in the right place but his situation has changed massively from where it was 12 months ago due to other investments. If he has our interests at heart he will accept he no longer has the finances to take us forward and if there is a sound offer from someone who will do that then cash in, take your profit and move aside for the good of the club and our future.


5.) 07 Jun 2019 14:31:13
What have you told us Whiteman?


6.) 07 Jun 2019 15:08:33
We are meant to ignore that white an. Some here don't seem to accept that.


7.) 07 Jun 2019 15:33:16
If Radz sells the club but keeps the rights to Elland Road than both Whiteman and Wexleeds will be right. Until then don't see the issue.


8.) 07 Jun 2019 15:52:16
If someone is going to spend loads of cash buying the club, I’m sure they will be astute enough and rich enough to agree a price that includes the ground as well or two sales. If they are just investing in the club the current situation would continue because they are not investing in the ground but the club.


9.) 07 Jun 2019 16:18:37
not sure rads heart is in the right place to be honest, not seen anything to make me think his heart is in or isn't in the right place but think he is defintaly a buinessman that sees leeds as an assest not a club.


10.) 07 Jun 2019 16:24:30
Berm What's going on? Start posting nonsense again instead of stuff I agree with. Don't forget to vote!


11.) 07 Jun 2019 16:34:12
100% Bermondsey the guys a charlatan. Has told us a few porkies at least Massimo was honest a saint in comparison to Radz.


12.) 07 Jun 2019 16:46:01
Berms and George - get a room.


13.) 07 Jun 2019 16:55:50
If he can't take the Club forward I hope he sells it, especially if there is a good offer on the table. I think he tried to get promoted on the cheap and just failed. He must know that won't happen again, even with Bielsa in charge. The foundations are there, but investment is crucial for us to get up. If he does sell I hope any new Owner would want to take the ground off him as well, then he could leave with his head held high and a profit in his pocket.


14.) 07 Jun 2019 17:35:12
So what evidence do you have Whitman that Radz even charges rent? Your slating the chairman who orchestrated our best season in years. I bet you’ll be skating the PSG owners for lack of investment if they get in. Some people are never happy. Bet you had some disappointing birthdays as kid!


15.) 07 Jun 2019 18:12:23
george is well and truely taking speedies place in my heart and dungeon.

as for rads the proof is in the pudding

rads went to fa due to villa and derby buying ground and renting it to make sure they spend lots of money and pass FFP

rads was told by fa you can do this and replied. i will not do this

this either means he don't have the money to or he doesn't care enough, their is no other reason why he wouldn't take advantage of what other chairmen have for the promise land of the prem. just ask villa.


16.) 07 Jun 2019 19:03:02
I accept that some people will always dislike an owner for various reasons just as we argue over players like KP and Harrison and Managers. Respect everyone’s views guys.

I like what Radz has done for the club, I think we are moving in the right direction. I think there could be better owners, but not just about the cash and I think there could be a lot worse. If he wants to stay on and he believes he can be even more successful this year then good luck to him. He will be judged by whether he can do it.

If he stays on he is criticized for wanting promotion on the cheap, if he sells, we will be told that it proves he was only in it for the money, so not sure he can win in some people’s eyes!

Have to say when I go to the games and talk to those who go, I’m not hearing a big Radz our campaign!


17.) 07 Jun 2019 19:14:24
Wex, he might be a Charlatan, but ‘Just when you’re thinking things over’, you might think he’s a ‘north country boy’, but he’s ‘the only one I know’.


18.) 07 Jun 2019 19:31:03
Loud and clear?


19.) 07 Jun 2019 19:45:17
Wex I understand mate.


20.) 07 Jun 2019 19:50:21
They think it’s all over, I have found memories non bad, but as you said perhaps your the one with bad memories if you need help to sort those out I can give you a number, looks very much like you need it.


21.) 07 Jun 2019 21:15:57
That sounds a bit different from what you have said before in regards to the ownership of the ground Spanish what happened to owned by a parent company that owns Leeds united now it seems you have realised its a separate entity.


22.) 07 Jun 2019 21:16:45
Wex 😂.


23.) 08 Jun 2019 02:34:33
MIDFIELD GENERAL, NOW THAT'S A FORKING AVATAR!


24.) 08 Jun 2019 03:20:02
Who mentioned bad memories whiteman? I’m just saying we could have neymar and messi in our team, win the league title, the FA cup, the champions league and you’d still find something to moan about.


25.) 08 Jun 2019 05:29:35
MG from One to another, Just when you’re thinkin things over, Radz just needs a Jesus Hairdo now.


26.) 08 Jun 2019 07:53:15
And you never said what your evidence was whiteman?


27.) 08 Jun 2019 17:36:32
Wex, if someone owns two houses in a street through different companies, he still owns both houses and anyone choosing to buy them can do t on the basis that they buy one or both. The club and the ground are still owned by Radz but through different vehicles consistent with the different investments. I honestly don’t think he has done anything that loads of other owners past present or future wouldn’t do in terms of how he has set its up!


28.) 08 Jun 2019 22:19:16
Spanishleeds how the hell can you compare someone buy a house to buy a club,
Point Radz said he will buy Leeds Utd for Leeds Utd fake he bought it for him self or part of his investment which if he sale will not include the ground that’s no difference to way it was before he bought it, and he will change 2 million rent each and every year, and will when he’s ready sell it to anyone he bloody wants to without any concern for Leeds Utd don’t you get it,


29.) 08 Jun 2019 22:21:27
They think it’s all over well your right I don’t intend to .


30.) 09 Jun 2019 08:35:26
Whiteman, we live in a real world where football is business, no one buys Leeds United for Leeds United! Radz companies own the club and the ground. Anyone wanting to buy the ground with the rest of the club can do a deal for both. It’s not complicated. Someone might prefer to buy the club and rent the ground. If it’s a big money buyer, I’m sure they would insist on both.

Personally, I would love to see a Yorkshire syndicate buy the club and ground included, but where are these generous Yorkshire folk been hiding with their cash?

Its easy to slag off an owner without any kind of alternative owner in place who will be better. Anyone who really wants to buy the club can make Radz an offer that he can’t refuse for the club including the ground! That’s how the free market operates. If he is the ruthless only profit orientated scoundrel that you and Wex paint him as, why wouldn’t he sell?

He only gets the big bucks of the premiership if he gets us there!


31.) 09 Jun 2019 15:40:41
Spanish I don’t disagree with you on that, my point is why lie, he has, he can do what the hell he likes it’s his money but he ant no messiah, he just someone who has bought Leeds, just because he parade is son in a Leeds top doesn’t make him one either, I fully understand that he’s out to make Money as they all are, some on here think just because we has a good season we shouldn’t talk bad about him, he’s just like many MP full of 💩.


 

 

 

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02 Jan 2019 18:33:59
Think MB said he was happy with the players, because he did not want to undermine the current players confidence by saying some of them might be replaced . You offer any manager the option of better players and they will want them, it goes without saying. You just don't want to undermine the good players you want to keep.

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13 Jun 2019 18:38:05
Only joking BW! But it might be cheaper to buy a few players for Leeds.

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13 Jun 2019 12:19:15
Can see both Spanish and BW's view on this. Think if its 3 players in, a striker, winger and no.10 would be the choices. Next 2 in would be a centre half and an attacking midfielder . After that it would be another winger and a keeper. Think MB will know squad size and quality were our downfall last season. If we get 3 or 4 of these in in the Summer window and strengthen where needed in January I would accept that. Any less than this and failing to strengthen in every window could be Rads downfall again.

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05 Jun 2019 21:50:04
My take is they are negotiating on the difference between the current value of the club about £100 million and the value as a premier league club say £250million. How much and how long it would take Rads to get there against the profit he would make. Rads is trying to quantify and negotiate on the potential and is he looking for premier league money for a championship club.

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31 May 2019 15:23:27
In an ideal world George we would do both. Last season Norwich and Sheff Utd converted roughly 17% of their chances we only converted 7% of our chances. Maybe only 3 attackers and 1 defender would be a compromise. Think young Halme coming through might find it easier to get up to the standard than the younger attackers of whom Bogusc is one of the most highly thought of. Our biggest weakness was not scoring enough from our chances, although conceding soft goals was the other.

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30 May 2019 19:42:01
Not exactly Wex. What I am saying is you need to develop young talent properly and not burn the young players out, ruining their careers. Young players are on a learning curve and it is important to ensure they are progressing to their full potential not ending up on the scrap heap by being overplayed when not physically mature. You want them playing to their best for 10, 12, 15 years.

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