Leeds rumours 3

13 Jun 2019 13:56:42
Villa are apparently interested in Phillips for £14m. Would not want to lose one of our better performers from last season however he is not worth £14m so I would probably take it.

13 Jun 2019 14:57:00
Not worth it. ? Team
If the season player. Grealish had a £50m tag on him. Kalvin has him in his pocket . no less than £20 m.
⚽️⚽️⚽️⚽️👍👍.

13 Jun 2019 15:02:06
Other rumour is swap with wolves for Helder! Thank goodness these clubs aren’t talking to Bermo or they’d only be offering a monkey!

13 Jun 2019 15:23:49
I’d probably take 15 million or Helder and some cash. Bielsa has improved his play and value over one season. He has the chance of premiership football and we get a reasonable return when his second year in the position might not be a good. If we need some cash, possibly one f the least painful options, Forshaw on the books and Bielsa possibly sees other possibilities.

13 Jun 2019 16:00:48
think of brexit no deal.

13 Jun 2019 16:02:37
I'd take it or any better offer if we could negotiate it.
Shackleton would be perfect for that role IMO.

13 Jun 2019 17:43:42
Are you guys serious?! Do you want promotion next year or not?! KP is essential for a promotion campaign! Doesn’t matter if we even get £20 m as it won’t all be invested back in the team anyway . Spanish, Forshaw is not fit to lace KP’s boots in that defensive shield position . Have you forgotten about the careless play from him that led to a number of goals last season already?!

13 Jun 2019 19:20:18
Red Hot, everyone has his price and his value. Your view of KP isn’t shared by everyone on here. During the year there was careless play from quite a few people. On top of that he might actually fancy having a go at the premiership. Before the start of the season KP wasn’t thought of as a superb player in that position. No reason to believe someone else couldn’t succeed as well. However I’ll go with Bielsas judgement, I’m sure he would have made it perfectly clear if he is prepared to accept the sale of KP.

13 Jun 2019 20:07:35
If KP goes it’s just another nail in Rads coffin as far as I’m concerned as well as many others . That goes for Clarke too, who has every chance of being a £50 m to £ 100 m player one day .

14 Jun 2019 11:08:47
Anyone willing to take 15mill for KP is a fool. He is the sort of player you need at the club. Made EFL team in the first year he has played that position and will improve next season although i think he should be used further forward. You want his kind around the dressing room and for me he his 25mill+. Who will you replace him with, Diaz not ready for a full campaign yet and Foreshaw should be on his way out in my opinion along with Dallas.

14 Jun 2019 13:41:06
Dallas' finishing was sublime in the playoff game - I would try him out as a center forward personally. Get rid of Bam-average instead.

15 Jun 2019 20:44:56
Under no circumstances should KP be sold. The boy is Leeds thro an thro, born and bred, and we need those, at least one of them, in our team. Like him, or loathe him, we need Leeds blood on that pitch, and I know Kal would do anything for our club.

13 Jun 2019 10:48:58
Supposed 14 million offer for KP from Villa, rumoured to be a premier league club, Bermo would you drive him to Birmingham yourself?

13 Jun 2019 11:23:01
Personally I don’t think he’s replaceable at that price. If they’re asking for 60m for Grealish we should be digging our heels in and giving them a taste of their own medicine. 30m minimum.

13 Jun 2019 11:47:49
I think at 30 million even Bermo would be prepared to sell!

13 Jun 2019 14:15:19
Is this the same Kalvin Phillips who got so much stick the seasons before last and people were wanting rid of him. Is it also the same Kalvin in Phillips who was unceremoniously dragged off the park in the first half twice this season?
Funny old game.

13 Jun 2019 15:03:37
Good point Bobby, perhaps another good reason for keeping Bielsa, he increases the market value of your players!

11 Jun 2019 17:13:48
Leeds have reportedly turned down an offer to loan Saiz out to a Spanish club next season, preferring a permanent move. Getafe have decided not to take up the offer of signing him permanently after he made little impression during his loan last season.

12 Jun 2019 09:03:25
Poison, bad apple to have around, total negative entity.

13 Jun 2019 15:09:29
TTIAO, actually agree with you. Added to the stories about alleged game fixing in Spain. Saiz just didn’t really fit. One of the big challenges for the season will be selling him for a good price! If we can get 6 million for him, isn’t that the loan budget covered in one go or close. Valencia is the key, if they really want him, they have the rewards of Champions league to collect. Have to say it surprises me after his lack his of impact for Getafe. For me that says it all. He got his own way, was back in Spain, near Madrid, had a great chance and couldn’t or wouldn’t take it when the alternative could be being back in Leeds.

Unfortunately clubs probably know hat we don’t want him back so they can haggle the price or we will accept a lan at the last minute!

13 Jun 2019 16:14:51
Be lucky to get £2/ 3m for him now.

11 Jun 2019 10:51:50
Any news on the potential takeover business? Seems to have gone quiet. Not sure what to make of it all.

11 Jun 2019 14:13:40
hasn't made the news for about a week now bud. I guess until something more happens there is nothing left to report.

12 Jun 2019 00:27:25
TB It is exactly as depicted by George. Qataris want but Radz ain't selling right now.

12 Jun 2019 09:31:12
According to NN it’s all been wildly Exaggerated about Qatari groups interest. There is supposed to be 6 interested parties in investing but I’d edge my bets that that’s being exaggerated as well.

13 Jun 2019 15:10:38
Right again, TTIAL. No one can actually say what bids and how much ch because at the moment likely just st window shopping!

10 Jun 2019 17:23:22
Just can't see Rads having the funds required in order to get the quality that's needed in. Think that is why we have not invested in the squad properly and then failed to invest in January. All the talk about MB being happy with a small squad and only wanting one player in January is all just spin. Rads did not have the readies to buy James in January and tried to get him on the never never. Don't get me wrong I like MB and think Rads is doing his best, what I dislike is Rads and his spin team thinking we are all fools and will swallow any line the club throws out.
Very poor from Rads when a few million could have strengthened the team enough to get up and he then looses out on £350 million.
Will that chance present itself for him again? Not without investment!

10 Jun 2019 21:39:33
You're probably right '70. Just reading that we don't have 6mil spare for a CB.

11 Jun 2019 08:33:09
1970 If mb wasn’t happy with a small squad he’d have walked. He’s walked for far less in the past and if you look back at the club teams he’s managed he’s always done it with a small squad. As for the James saga it wouldn’t have mattered if rads had put up £30 million as there chairman wasn’t going to let the deal through under any circumstances as in his own words he delayed the deal until it was too late in the interest of the club. We had agreed a fee with the owners but can’t do anything about a kamikaze chairman going rogue can we.

11 Jun 2019 10:57:33
We don't have any money available for signings other than loan signings. Unless we get a load of cash injected from somewhere we will be looking at loans only.

11 Jun 2019 11:42:42
Alf only a handful of people know what money we have. If you go around bragging you’ve got a £20 million war chest then average £1 million pound players become £5 million pound players as all the clubs will increase there players value to a club they know has money.

11 Jun 2019 14:17:00
That's what is often banded about TTIAO but I'm not convinced myself. The noises coming out of people close to the club seem to confirm the fact that we have no money and we are focussing on loans. I can see a cash signing if we sell a few but so far nobody has been sold so we don't have any funds to sign anyone new. Even if we did the funds we make seem to evaporate - look at last season for instance.

11 Jun 2019 14:39:59
It’s called overheads Alf, better a chairman living within our means than one like Peter risedale.

11 Jun 2019 17:21:24
Indeed TTIAO, but that doesn't suggest a club with loads of money just keeping schtum - it suggests a club with no money.

11 Jun 2019 17:34:50
All down to interpretation as always. Loans cost money too, in loan fees, and wages. Thanks to wages in the PL, and player values, loans are the only viable option if we are to stay within the bounds of FFP. The only way to purchase players, when you’ve not got parachute payments, are “ ones for the future”.

12 Jun 2019 07:45:27
They think it’s all over, get real! And while your at it take your head out of Rads’ backside . He either hasn’t got a pot or isn’t prepared to invest in the first team and tried to buy DJ on the never never, hence it fell through and as a result probably cost us promotion .

12 Jun 2019 12:05:10
RHC FORKING LOVE YOU BRO! 💙💛.

12 Jun 2019 12:23:32
Bright - FFP is just an excuse.

The way i understand it we are comfortably within the limits imposed by the EFL having a £12.2m deficit for the three season cycle 2015/ 18. We are allowed up to £15m without any input from the owner and £39m if the owner makes up the defecit. So to my mind that means we could spend £26.8m this season if we wanted to and still be within the limits providing the owner stumps up some cash, in our case, to the tune of £24m. That would be plenty to get some decent players in.

Even if you factored in the operating losses of £4.3m. Hell, let's round that up to $5m operating losses and we would still be able to spend £21.8m this season and be compliant.

We make the most revenue in the league (discounting clubs with parachute payments) of £40.7m so how we still make a loss of £4.3m is also a bit of a worry for me and that was after we took into account £18.1m generated through player sales (although to be fair we also invested over £10m in new players and their wages) . we hardly broke the bank though.

12 Jun 2019 12:51:14
Georgie it’s mutual my brother!

12 Jun 2019 14:28:00
Well explained young Alfred.

Any chance you could take a look at my tax return for me?

MM.

12 Jun 2019 16:58:57
Since when did you start completing them MM?

12 Jun 2019 17:29:24
Yes Alf, but wages are part of the P&L, so £26.8 mill doesn’t leave much for transfer costs, if you buy a couple of players for 10mill, then pay them 40k per week, which is exactly my point. Loans are a much shrewder way forward, then invest when we get promoted.

10 Jun 2019 09:27:52
Leeds United have approached Liverpool to enquire into a double deal for Ryan Kent and Harry Wilson. Ed001 - have you heard anything about this or the plans for Wilson and Kent for the forthcoming season? Will they be in Klopp's thoughts at all do you think?

{Ed001's Note - Wilson is for sale, no idea of who is in for him but he is available.

Kent is available for loan or sale. Neither are anywhere near good enough to push for a place unfortunately.}

10 Jun 2019 14:59:25
Thank you :)

{Ed001's Note - welcome.}

09 Jun 2019 22:16:47
Something gone down with Leeds United shares as received email this afternoon from company check updates about Leeds United. It refers to shares but Doesn't allow me access to further information.

09 Jun 2019 22:49:38
Just checked company's house website for Leeds United and there is a lot of things relating to shares but I don't understand what it means, something about radz and 75%.

09 Jun 2019 22:58:13
What does that mean?

09 Jun 2019 23:43:18
Looking at the docs you seem to be referring to, while they were apparently filed with companies house, or uploaded to its website recently, they seem to date from last year, so possibly nothing to be excited about.

10 Jun 2019 07:52:27
Yeah, reading through this morning I think the relate to the 49ers buying 25% for 11million. So nothing new.

10 Jun 2019 08:25:37
This is all the paperwork related to the 49ers investment last year. Nothing in itself to be excited about, unless it has been prompted by them doing some preparations for other share issues/ sales during/ in advance of due diligence.

09 Jun 2019 14:26:32
Just saw on NewsNow that Vydra is being touted as being up for sale by Burnley

I know we were linked with him a couple of years ago but would love to hear the thoughts from our group about if we would like to see him in a Leeds shirt?

Personally I thought he was a brilliant second striker for Derby. Linked up the play and was clinical in the box. He also had an engine on him which would help with the high pressing game we are playing

I would love him as a swap for Saiz. This may relegate Roberts to the bench, however that in itself improves the standard of our bench, and then covers issues in the centre forward, No10, and wide attacking positions.

09 Jun 2019 21:10:44
Spooky I more or less posted the same!

10 Jun 2019 09:12:51
Unlikely to be a swap deal as Saiz wants to be in Spain unless I missed something.

10 Jun 2019 09:19:57
£10mill for Vydra by all accounts. Not sure where we will get that kind of money unless we do get an investment or we sell someone (Clarke? )

08 Jun 2019 23:51:30
If Phillips goes Foreshaw can do the job if he stays healthy. If Roofe goes Bamford can do his job if he can stay healthy. If Jansson leaves? Lots of potential problems. Can Foreshaw and Bamford stay fit and can the Swede be replaced at a good price. Or can Beradi be trusted again because he had a great start to last season.
In Bielsa I trust.

09 Jun 2019 09:37:12
I don’t think for one minute Bamford can do Roofe’s job. He had plenty of time when Roofe was injured and proved nothing really. He is a decent player, but if Roofe left, we definitely need a proven goal scorer.
Forshaw can do the job, but as you say, can he stay fit?
Berardi should get a one way ticket home, not good enough and a massive liability.

09 Jun 2019 10:50:17
With the utmost respect you are mistaken on both counts!

09 Jun 2019 13:48:54
How’s that? On occasion last season Foreshaw was played instead of Phillips and a fully fit Bamford has proven in past he can get 20 plus goals.

09 Jun 2019 16:18:16
Just putting it out there and I know this will upset a lot of people but Pontus can be a bit of a liability at times. He can be a bit reckless and his body language when we lose speaks volumes. doesn't look a team player, but when we win it's the complete reverse. I do rate the guy, don't get me wrong but if we got a good price, he is replaceable. Someone with experience like Huth would do the job for me.

Mad Mick (DTP UTW)

09 Jun 2019 21:11:16
Welcome back from the nuthouse Mick. You must have been there if you believe Huth is the answer!
Good to see your back though.

09 Jun 2019 22:02:17
Good to have you back MM 👍.

09 Jun 2019 22:46:31
Bamford hasn't scored 20 goals in 3 years.

08 Jun 2019 11:16:13
I was talking to a lad this morning who knows KPs sister. Apparently he thinks he'll be going as his stock is good a the moment and he's got a guaranteed go in the premier league and also Leeds need the cash. Also Roofe won't be stopping as they won't meet his wage demands.

08 Jun 2019 14:49:25
That's not good 😕😕.

08 Jun 2019 17:08:13
KPs sister needs to ring the South London oracle immediately! He will dash their hopes but on the the other hand Bermo might be keen to see the back of him or should I say backside!

08 Jun 2019 21:44:26
Honestly don’t believe he will go anywhere. Obvs could be proven wrong due to agents etc, but I’ve been watching Kal play since the age of ten, and he is Leeds. If he does go, it won’t be because he wants to.

08 Jun 2019 23:47:53
Sell KP at first decent offer.
Has improved significantly for sure but hasn't got the pace to play at higher level.
I'd mould Shakleton for the DM role. Has the pace and mobility aND engine needed.

09 Jun 2019 18:50:23
I know KP's sister and she'll say anything for half a mild down Skellow Working Man's Club at happy hour, so she's not the best judge of character but she gives good head

MM.

10 Jun 2019 09:15:28
Its not the sister in law is it MM?

10 Jun 2019 09:16:46
I think most players would leave for a go at the Premier league regardless of who they support. Financial stability and the chance to play with the best in the world. Its not even a slight pay rise either he would probably triple his wages at worst.