Leeds Banter Archive February 27 2020

 

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27 Feb 2020 17:55:34
Message to All!

11 games to go.

Lets all just do positive posting for the run in, no more negative stuff.
If our players, management or opposition read these comments, let's all give the right vibe for a team and club we all have faith in.

Leeds, Leeds are on the March again
Leeds, Leeds are on the March again.

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27 Feb 2020 19:36:48
On paper at least Fulham's next four games are a nightmare compared to ours. On a less positive note, Bams stats are the worst in the Championship. Overall though, whilst I wish we had an out n out striker, I feel generally optimistic.

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27 Feb 2020 19:42:50
Can't and won't agree to this. I do not consider such to be in the interests of the club and fans. I'm more than content with our goalkeepers, defence and midfield. It's up to you know who to sort out his flagging fortunes in front of goal. It's not encouragement he needs nor motivation, it's practice. I expect and demand he practices until he gets it right. Much rides on it. I want promotion in 2 months. It's not just us fans but the city and all of football who want us back where we belong. Time to step up and take what's ours. 💙💛.

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27 Feb 2020 20:17:56
you know what mate well said

11 games to the promised land! just hope my heart can hold out.

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27 Feb 2020 22:04:33
Can not wait for Charlton game when we play our last match in the championship. Brentford will get hammered in March and Fulham will not get 6 more points than us. Forest will blow up cause that's what they do. No longer quietly confident just confident. Us and Brom i reckon.

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27 Feb 2020 22:18:13
Bang on George.

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27 Feb 2020 22:18:55
Post of the year so far George.

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27 Feb 2020 23:21:17
George - 7do you honestly believe that BamBam doesn't practice shooting from all angles/ distances, left, right, headed etc etc. Of course he does, and I'd hazard a guess that a good proportion of them fly into the net - with a few 'worldies' like the volley that led Bielsa to run across to give him a hug.

It's the pressure of the match situation which probably makes the difference - particularly with the additional expectations placed upon him as the main man up front - despite his protestations that he relishes the prospect. I also dare say that if everyone else was regularly weighing in with goals and we were scoring the three or four goals a match which our approach play and chance creation merit, BamBam would be scoring much more regularly, as he would feel far less pressure specifically on him to score.

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28 Feb 2020 06:39:33
Whilst I certainly empathise with Georgie's sentiments and frustrations in his post . Clueless your post. and points are the ones that are bang on.

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28 Feb 2020 09:01:11
BamBam just needs to relax

Scoring is a reflex action when you get to this stage. The hard work is done.

He’s too tense

This is in his head. Someone get him to yoga.

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28 Feb 2020 09:58:49
Not sure how you could replicate the matchday pressure in practice.

Perhaps try could have system of weekly bonuses. So perhaps for example all outfield players in the first team squad except BamBam and JKA could be eligible for a bonus of maybe 2% if say 50% of their shots in practice were successful, but they would only receive the bonus if the two strikers were equally successful. For the goalkeepers, rather nd the goalkeepers would receive a bonus if they saved say 70% of those shots on target. It would probably be possible to game such a system, but I guess it could be made clear that if the coaches believed gaming was going on, all bonuses paid to date would be recouped.

I'm sure someone in Bielsa's staff could come up with a more refined system, but whatever was used could be used in the various age groups too, to promote greater efficiency generally, while ensuring that even in practice additional pressure would be on the strikers to deliver the reward their teammates' endeavours merited.

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28 Feb 2020 10:19:29
Guess 2% each week would not be a huge amount of money therefore not so much pressure, so perhaps the pressure could be increased slightly by not paying out each week but rather putting any money due to each player into a pot to be paid to them at the end of the season, but any week one or more of the strikers failed to get the required percentage success, all pots would return to zero.

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28 Feb 2020 10:47:45
clueless not sure about football but in theatre we have similar in that rehearsals like training matches can't replicate shows with an audience in them.

Professionals just have to deal with it, practice and praictie and have confidence in themselves.

I just did a show where the director who is like the manager distoryed an actors condifence, I had to build him back up to make sure he got through the show (and he did really well)

i have slated belisa and I think like our director he distroys players confidence and don't build them up like a venrbles, redknapp or mourino does.

Bamford when he took that pen looked deviod of confidence and that for me is part down to the gaffer, let's be honest all of our players look jittery

then look over belisa whole career, putting the ball in the net has been a long term problem depsite creating chances

maybe the problem lies not in the practice but in the mentallity?

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28 Feb 2020 11:00:44
Of course, as Other Woody suggests, the alternative approach is some kind of therapy to enable Bambam to develop an inner calm and tune out matchday pressures.

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28 Feb 2020 11:14:11
Berm - how exactly do you believe Bielsa is destroying Bambam's confidence. Do you feel that by standing by him and continuing to pick him to start he is exposing him to a possible downward spiral of further pressure and consequent failure?

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28 Feb 2020 12:41:13
Berm - if you look back over Bielsa's career you read and hear a lot of football journalists etc talking about how he has developed and improved players, with quite a number players also coming out saying the same about their own positive experiences with him as a coach. Yes there are a some desenting voices, but these seem few and far between. This hardly suggests a track record of destroying player confidence.

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28 Feb 2020 14:17:13
BW . you state Mourinho is a manager who builds up players confidence . really ?

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Hakim Ziyech

27 Feb 2020 17:00:58
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27 Feb 2020 14:15:39
Gaetano Berardi has the highest points per game average (2.4) of any Leeds player this season (+5 matches) .
He also has the highest clean sheets percentage (62.5%) of any Leeds player (+5 matches) .
His only league defeat this season came when he was wrongly dismissed v Millwall.

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27 Feb 2020 14:34:28
well that just goes how rubbish and misleading stats are. True about the wrongful dismissal but let's be honest he is useless. a tryer, passionate but useless.

Last night he made some many crucial mistakes lucky the ref forgot his whislte and borogu can't score for toffee.

lets not forget he has our record for most red cards and some of his wonderful displays such as derby last year

truth is he is a average RB so we got alying. now belisa plays him at centreback because belisa is a stubborn fool.

anyone who thinks beradi is anything other than an bottom of the champ right back and league 1 Cb is a joker in my book.

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27 Feb 2020 14:35:24
Is that because he hasn't played too many games though Bright? Its easier to get a better percentage when it is over less games which is why stats can be deceiving.

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27 Feb 2020 15:24:27
More “rubbish and misleading stats”.

Gaetano Berardi has kept 10 clean sheets in 16 Championship appearances this season. Leeds have conceded just 0.31 league goals per game with Berardi in the side, the best average of any Leeds player to have played 350+ minutes in the Championship.

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27 Feb 2020 15:26:11
Bermo. your quote. "belisa is a stubborn fool"

I laughed a little too loud when I read that

Pots, kettle, black

Oh, and just out of interest I am a joker in your book as I see Beradi being much better than a 'bottom of Championship right back'. You wouldn't know talent if it slapped you on the face.

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27 Feb 2020 15:49:00
very true I am very stubborn when it comes to football but i am not paid a lot of money to manage a football team. in my field i am far more open minded which is why i am very successful despite not having the backing of many bigger theatre companies

if you rate beradi axe then that must be why we differ on a lot of opinions

again rose tinted leeds fan glasses. bamford tried hard and is not playing his natural game and is berated by many a useless posh boy he gets slated

beradi makes more mistakes than bamford per minutes on the pitch yet is a proper leeds lad who givs 100% and is not playing natural game so must be commended

i don't get why with most of leeds fan base it is one rule for one and a different rule for another?

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27 Feb 2020 16:10:09
Personally I like the way MB has Bamford playing and it's a real shame the lad does not seem to be able to convert more chancers .
He has been spotlighted I agree with Berm, there are a few players who lose the ball or miss place passes more .

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27 Feb 2020 16:42:33
Got to agree with Bermo, he is bang average and a major mistake just waiting to happen.
After the Derby game last year, he should never have put a Leeds shirt on again!

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27 Feb 2020 17:58:09
thanks that is my point

beradi gives his all and plays out of position with no complaints but makes lots of mistakes but as it is in defence many don't notice unless we conceed

bamford gives his all and plays out of position (he is a number 10 not a lone stiker full of goals) with no complaints but misses some chances yet is subject to so much stick

for me it seems some either have favorites which seems odd or they don't realise as a miss is easier to spot than a mistake in defence?

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27 Feb 2020 18:52:28
You said your not paid a lot of money to manage a football team! There’s probably a good reason for that.

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27 Feb 2020 19:52:26
Berm Disagree with you on the evaluation of Swiss Army Knife. Accident waiting to happen yes, skill level not Premier League but in my opinion his current level is as a decent Championship defender, top 6 Championship class. I believe he has a cap for Switzerland. He certainly deserves greater respect than you presently afford him. When called upon this season he's acquitted himself fairly well.

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27 Feb 2020 20:11:52
Lol Taddy White 😂😂😂.

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27 Feb 2020 20:18:43
very true taddy it is a good job i ain't paid money to manage leeds, i just hope belisa proves worth his money!

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27 Feb 2020 20:23:27
“beradi makes more mistakes than bamford per minutes on the pitch”. 🤔🤔🤔
For someone who sees stats as rubbish and misleading, Bermo, you’re quite happy to make sweeping, inaccurate statements, without any information to back up your incorrect proclamations!

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27 Feb 2020 20:34:48
Plus. You are also proving my point I made to you Bermo, in that every player on the park will make mistakes, and yet you also choose to only pick up on Berra, and no one else. So in a way, you’re negating your own argument by only selecting BamBam, and Berra. I recall Klich, Harrison, Cooper, Dallas, Costa, Ayling et al making mistakes last night, but let them pass, as it’s about the overall team performance, not zooming in on individuals.

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27 Feb 2020 21:11:27
bright you say my sweeping statement is innaccurate how do you know this?

I am very ciritcal of the whole team, my point is not that players in our team make mistakes of course they do it not they'd be prem players (who even then make a mistake)

my point is why do some players Kiko, BamBam, costa get a lot of flack while others like beradi get a easier ride.

its nt about mistakes its is a general question as to why?

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27 Feb 2020 22:30:45
Ok. Now I’m beginning to understand your point berm, and actually, if that is the point, then I do agree.
My perspective is then more about “ why be critical at all”? The team is playing well. (I know you disagree) . The club is doing well. The team spirit is great, as is the focus and determination to achieve.
Guess the main word is perspective.
Hey ho, onto promotion we go.

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27 Feb 2020 23:16:30
It is not about individuals now it is about teamwork. Most have been playing well below their best most of the season, only a couple you could say have had a great game at any point. Mistakes are made but we are second so i guess the teams below us are making mistakes as well. We just have to take advantage of their mistakes and we will. Berardi is a squad player and a honest hard working one at that. He is not a CB everyone knows but who else would you put there at this stage. Personally i would swap him and White, makes more sense to me. Anyway who fancies Liverpool at home first game next season.

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28 Feb 2020 07:42:37
agree bright with the sentiment and honestly think you are a better person than me but you have it right

I honestly do not enjoy watching leeds under belisa in the whole. I think we play like arsenal. I don't like the over passing, i don't like the missed chances, i don't like the fact i think the other team will score every time they go near our box.

It is personal, why score with 60 passes like pep when you can score with three like wilko? I'm very old fashioned and would honestly rather watch sheff utd than man city as i have more respect for wilde than pep pound for pound

so i am cirical which is stpuid as we are second and winning! i'm the etrunal moaner under belisa!

i do focus on players which again is wrong but my point was i don't get why some get hate and some support. This year i don't think anyone other than white has been overall good for us (again stupid because we are second) but i don't get the love for phillips and beradi and the hate for bamford and kiko when both sets have played well and played badly. As a leeds fan outside of leeds i have always been miffed by it. Howson and smith are two others who for me were both over rated, over loved and not very good.

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28 Feb 2020 08:52:03
Bermo. I get where your coming from now fella. 👍🏻.

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27 Feb 2020 12:46:24
For what it's worth, which is debatable, the two most frequently quoted prediction models for the Championship both currently have Baggies and us finishing 1st and 2nd - but their points projections differ greatly - with 97 and 85 and 88 and 87 respectively, and in terms of nearest challenger - one has Florists 2 point behind on 83 and the other Brentford nine points back on 79.

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27 Feb 2020 14:05:55
Ultimately they don't amount to much - I'm sure they had us to go up last season so that's about the worth of those machines. Were in a great place though. Keep winning up to Fulham and I will be happy.

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27 Feb 2020 15:10:17
That's my thought about it too, but given the discussions on here about who our main threats might be, it seemed vaguely interesting to see the current thoughts of those who try to predict these things.

Clearly the fact that, apart from the first two placings, they differ so markedly shows just how much/ little store we should set by these predictions.

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27 Feb 2020 08:14:48
3 points is all that matters and I will continue to take 1-0 victories. Last night we started a tad scrappy and seemed to be forcing the issue by giving the ball away constantly (Hernandez was a major culprit) . We then settled down and for a 10-15 spell put Middlesborough on the backfoot and eventually forced the goal. Defensively we held firm (apart from the shot that hit the bar) although I think White in the DM role is a waste. Chances again wasted, in particular Dallas and Bamford who is playing with absolutely no confidence but no pressure from the bench. Augustine out injured with a hamstring strain therefore we must persist with Bamford for the run in. A poor piece of business in the window by the club as I suspect we will not see Augustine start this season. Positives, a win, defensive solidity, good performances from Klich, White and the back four. Negatives, wasting limited chances and crossing from the wings still a bit hit and miss.

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27 Feb 2020 09:08:27
My thoughts on Radz and Orta on their terrible incompetent recruitment are well documented. but it's now looking like they have surpassed themselves in incompetency this past transfer window.

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27 Feb 2020 09:32:14
Was wondering where big Kev was. Rads and Orta can’t predict injuries injuries tho!
Personally wanted to see Jordan Stevens get 20 mins for Costa, and thought Harrison and Klich were fantastic.

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27 Feb 2020 09:46:49
Bright you are correct but they can be held accountable for bringing in an unfit striker who is probably busting a gut to get fit therefore increasing the risk of injury.

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27 Feb 2020 10:04:48
Brighty . Radz and Orta have spent £2 million in loan fees and wages on JKA knowing that he is, not ready to play due to his lack of fitness. and has hardly played all season . so it is not really surprising to see it seems JKA getting injured trying to reach Bielsas level of fitness


. Poveda isn't a first team signing.

so the first team squad has in reality not really been strengthened again for the crucial run in

Anyway. onwards. 11 crucial games . come on Bielsa and the players.

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27 Feb 2020 10:14:44
We’re doing ok without them at the moment.

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27 Feb 2020 10:30:35
That was a hard watch last night as poor as boro really are we, were never comfortable against them there would really have to be so much work done to that 1st team if we do go up . The question is 2fold, if bielsa was to stay, Would he actually drop any of his core favourites on the team, (knowing his reluctance to change) .
Also would Our great leader ever pay the rate involved to get prem quality into the team?

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27 Feb 2020 10:37:39
True Taddy but why make it harder on ourselves and what do we do if we do need the extra players but they are not available/ match fit?

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27 Feb 2020 11:10:56
We also managed to grind out a result without KP, and hopefully he'll be fit enough for Saturday. KP's absence last night also means that even if he picks up a yellow in each of the next two games, he won't reach the 10-card mark ahead of the 37 match cut-off so, barring a red card or injury, he should be available for the following games at Baadiff and home to Fulham.

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27 Feb 2020 11:15:50
Fair points Notts and Baz, so won’t argue re Kev.
I think re Poveda, that Bielsa said he was capable and fit enough, but would have to edge his way past Jordan Stevens, who has earned his place in the squad, and on the bench, which is a positive in some ways.

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27 Feb 2020 11:32:57
sorry but i don't think we held firm last night i think we was shocking but luckly borough was worse and couldn't make us pay

three times they cut us open on the counter attack but then there final ball let them down with the goal wide open, not to mention the back pass from hell and them hitting the bar. then beradi could of been sent off but ref didn't even give a foul?

white at defensive mid is a waste of a player he just don't get involved and beradi is a joke of a player. last night we got away with it but against better teams we would of been beaten. trouble is we have a lot harder games than borough coming up and last night only papered over our defensive cracks.

belisa is on 6 million a year better paid than southgate and if his answer is beradi at centre back and white as DM he is not worth the money. Last night was a let off not a great defensive display.

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27 Feb 2020 11:42:11
Chris was wondering where you had been during the past 3 games / victories 😊.

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27 Feb 2020 12:14:13
BW, I only remember Casilla making one save and yes they hit the bar and they had two shots wide, but a clean sheet is holding firm. On another day we may had conceded one or two but we didn't, count our blesses. I assume that your comment re: Bielsa's salary in comparison to Southgate's is poetic licence, as your figures are way out. Agree with White at DM, waste of a good player.

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27 Feb 2020 13:14:19
Been here all the while vidooks but not commenting ( and not because we won 3 neither ) Last night was a awful game of football to watch though . Lack of a bench currently is showing, No kalvo we are a different team.

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27 Feb 2020 13:26:37
I also agree re white at DM, but that is no reflection on Berra, by any means.

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27 Feb 2020 13:35:14
Good to know Chris .

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27 Feb 2020 14:08:14
I the absence of KP Bermo, how would you set the team up?

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27 Feb 2020 15:52:44
without kp it should be

alying cooper whit douglas
dallas

alying cooper white dallas
shack/ boguatz

or if yu must play the walking mistake then (not my prefered)

beradi alying cooper dallas
white

my point is beradi at cb costs us he is not good enough when the going gets tough. why ain't belisa learnt this? if beradi is the best option in belisa crazy mind then he had to get better in. a CB was out there better than him. i said williams and people said he ain't ball playing. neither is beradi only difference is one is a CB the other aint

belisa is paid too much to make the mistak of playing beradi cb.

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27 Feb 2020 16:22:51
Bielsa salary article

might not be exact but lots of people saying he is on a big wage.

the biggest miss chance brough didn't even hit the target they cut us open, beradi was in no mans land but the final pass was way behind the striker giving coops a chance to cover but it should of been a goal

as for how i would set up without KP. either

Beradi alying cooper dallas (ayling less of a risk in the middle than beradi)

alying white cooper douglas
dallas

alying white cooper dallas
shacks/ bozagus

my point is beradi is no CB he cost us last year and is not upto the task. why don't Belisa learn would anyone want beradi centr back in playoffs (i said it would cost us last year and it did why make me right again)

if belisa answer was Beradi Cb then he had to get a cb in who is better. some one, any one just not beradi at CB it should never happen as better teams than middsleborough will make us pay.

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27 Feb 2020 08:12:36
It is not my intention to make a comment one way or the other regarding our attack, but I can't help but wonder how many times our opponent's keeper has been their man of the match when they play Leeds?

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27 Feb 2020 09:11:41
Indeed Jungle . not just tne opponents gk but the entire opponents team play ( one of) their best games of their season against Leeds.

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27 Feb 2020 09:34:46
We’ve been saying it for the last few months haven’t we!? But it’s not just this season, I’ve been saying it for 35 years! 😳😳😳.

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27 Feb 2020 09:53:04
Indeed Brighty.

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27 Feb 2020 11:34:57
hard to call a man of the match after that, there keeper made a few good saves but nothing special. for me I think klich was MOTM he can drop in and out of games but when he is good he carrys us.

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27 Feb 2020 13:17:11
Dallas for me bermo.

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27 Feb 2020 13:29:02
Being fair, Shotton also made many timely challenges, in and around the area, so for me, was also in the running with Klich for MOTM.

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27 Feb 2020 14:41:32
you know what chris i would not argue with that dallas just behind klich in my book but very little in it.

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27 Feb 2020 08:02:58
Augustin isn't fit and hasn't played more than a few minutes in a Leeds shirt now he's injured. We're not very good in the transfer market are we?

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27 Feb 2020 09:12:34
That is putting it mildly and politely Hess # understatement.

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27 Feb 2020 07:42:44
I think the level of concern is that although we have got the points over the last three games it's been close. Too close. Lots of possession but few goals. Without Casilla and the crossbar we would have dropped four points in the last two games. The worry is unless we can start scoring a few more goals can we continue to ride our luck till the end of the season.

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27 Feb 2020 09:21:14
The Bristol City game should have been 5 nil, it really was a missed opportunity to score a load of goals. and increase goalscoring confidence.

as. it is we continue to not score more than 1 goal a game making a clean sheet and aome good fortune essential to obtain 3 points .

Must try score 2 preferably 3 . goals against Hull.

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27 Feb 2020 16:21:50
Of course we could/ should have had a couple of penalties last night. Score those, and we would have been more relaxed in front of goal and possibly scored a couple more. Of course our recent record on pens would suggest we might have been just as likely to have missed the damn things, so further sapping confidence in our own finishing, and lifting the Smoggies confidence it could be their night.

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Review Of The Day 27th February 2020

27 Feb 2020 07:39:03
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 27th February 2020

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26 Feb 2020 23:55:51
I’m sorry but I just don’t get the general level of apathy vs appreciation for the win in the current circumstances, should be judged as ian exceptional win! Without our Pirlo against a team far too close to relegation and us with florist breathing down our necks! I’m sorry but tonight (in context) should be considered as good as any result we’ve had. MOT! #getpromotiondone.

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27 Feb 2020 07:23:56
Agree class, spot on! It was a battle under pressure as they will all be now! There was a few heart in mouth moments but there always is with the way we play! It was quite refreshing to see the ref let a few robust tackles go! Lots of positives, 3 wins,3 clean sheets, game management at the end very good and for me, not seen Klich play much better! He was immense! On to the next game! Come on boy’s! 11 cup finals to go! MOT.

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27 Feb 2020 09:22:38
Agree class, a very controlled performance, both in attack and defensively. As a group they all battled to keep a clean sheet, not the attacking prowess we normally aspire to, but a good performance none the less.
I would say that Bamford is very unlucky and i do feel sorry for him. That tap in that everyone including me accused him of missing was actually touched by the defender just before he was going to score, i still think he will get 20 by the season end. come on my bam bam👍.

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27 Feb 2020 09:32:12
I am not sure it's apathy from posters Class regarding the victory. more nervousness of these tight victories and in tne Boro. game some good fortune to perhaps not have dropped. 2 points.

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27 Feb 2020 09:37:42
Couldn’t agree more Class! A well ground out, but deserved victory! I’ll take ten more of those, please!

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27 Feb 2020 11:36:40
a win at this stage of the season is amazing and every win is a step closer to the promised land, but that said defensively i thought we was shocking and think we have t acknolge that better teams would of scored at least a couple. a win is great but we have to improve.

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26 Feb 2020 23:24:46
Excellent three points. Have to say it. Is there a worse finisher in the division than Bamford? The rest of his game is fine but I've seen better finishers on a Sunday morning. Having said that we are on a winning run and we have no one better which is strange itself.

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27 Feb 2020 09:28:43
. Bamfòrd. is not a goalscorer and he is now playing with very little confidence . yet we have no alternative


. really hope he scores at least one against Hull. he needs a serious boost in confidence.

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{Ed047's Note - what’s happened to your new signing?

27 Feb 2020 09:34:52
ED047 he is out injured.

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{Ed047's Note - how did that happen mate, in training?

27 Feb 2020 10:09:16
In training I guess Ed047 . he played a few minutes 2 games ago against Bristol City so possibly in that game an injury may have occurred also.

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{Ed047's Note - hopefully he’s not out for long then mate. 🤞

26 Feb 2020 23:00:07
Fantastic result - job done again and picking up the points where we can. Keep going boys!

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26 Feb 2020 22:57:17
Loving the determination of the players to see this through. Defensively we are looking much better now. With the goal scoring so long as we just get one and don’t concede it will still equal promotion. Don’t know what to say about Bamford, if Jon Bon Jovi can’t get him inspired to get goals. then I don’t know who can? 🎸.

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27 Feb 2020 09:39:59
Yep, he missed a couple of peaches again. Can’t deny that. But he really does make the team tick, and you can see that all the other players appreciate the work he puts in.

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