Leeds Banter Archive January 14 2020

14 Jan 2020 22:22:50
I have no idea what funds we have available, or what Radz does with any money he makes, or doesn't make out of owning Leeds United. After all he's the boss he can do what he likes.
I'm just happy he's taken us forward in the last two seasons enough to have at least a chance of going up, rather than the previous mid table mediocrity we suffered for God knows how many years!
#MOT. Get behind Radz and Bielsa.

14 Jan 2020 22:36:15
Totally on board with that danum, nothing we can do about it and it is his club and money. He may be using it for improvements who knows. Just pees me off when people start using FFP as an excuse. Radz will run the club as he sees fit and i said before he pays a lot of expert advisors in Acer who will guide him so not all his doing.

14 Jan 2020 22:45:14
Fair points Danum and yes you are right we have experienced far too much dross before Radz and Bielsa . even throughout the 1980s I went to see an awful lot of mediocre Leeds United teams


. fully behind Bielsa . as for Radz and Orta did at least bring Bielsa so MOT lads.

15 Jan 2020 12:24:31
Bahypocrite.

15 Jan 2020 15:22:12
Thanks Deluded Grudgy George 😂😂.

14 Jan 2020 19:07:59
On another note mowatt has been contacted but we not willing to pay 3 Mill tykes want so he is going to run down contract in hope of joining us on a free I'm from Doncaster and know him and his parents.

14 Jan 2020 19:28:31
Who has he been contacted by, the cook at Thorpe Arch?
Why would we want Mowett back? Good player but not a player that would fit into our new way of playing (quick! )

14 Jan 2020 19:47:21
Don’t forget we have to pay Radz company 20mill rent don’t know if that has kicked in yet as we got 30 months free. If that the case only 10 million for players.

14 Jan 2020 19:52:02
MG Total wind up.

14 Jan 2020 20:09:08
He never wanted to leave in first place and this is straight up from horses mouth his contract up in summer.

14 Jan 2020 21:20:32
SS You make no sense. He never wanted to leave in the first place? And your point is? We sold him because he became bad and slow. We enjoyed selling him. Him wanting to stay is irrelevant! He plays in League One and we're almost a Premier League team. We'd desire him back because of which reasons exactly?

14 Jan 2020 22:09:20
He actually plays in the championship George, but I agree we would never re sign him. Lot of talent but not enough pace to be more than a league 1 / average championship player. (IMO)

14 Jan 2020 22:16:30
Barnsley are a Championship team, not League One (at least for now)

14 Jan 2020 22:29:43
Thanks Stevie.

14 Jan 2020 18:15:31
Anyone know what dead like has been set for Adams, by Leeds,

14 Jan 2020 19:50:11
Should read anyone know the dead line date set by Leeds for Adams, text went wrong somehow.

14 Jan 2020 21:02:37
Think it’s the end of the week Whitey, but just what I’ve read, no inside info.

14 Jan 2020 16:28:09
Nowt like a Jan transfer window to bring out the best in people lol. Only you guys can argue about what ain't happening. We got two young ones to warm the bench by the looks of things. We will probably get a striker from some far off shore then loan him out like we did Mujica and Grot. Then we will be in till the final hours of the final day for Aguero and it will fall through. We all know the script, Radz will not spend big, which may or may not cost us big time. Think Bubs will have to make the most of the youngsters he can and rest players when possible. Still going to be an interesting 4 months. Win our next three and it may settle a few nerves. Nothing against Radz, but will be glad when he sells to Qataris. Some calling Cellino but reckon he would have dipped in his pocket last Jan and this one, that's the difference between a football man and a business man.

14 Jan 2020 16:53:04
I agree Bielsa. A lot of the financial stability accredited to Radz was actually achieved by Cellino.

14 Jan 2020 16:56:51
But Cellino would have fired Bielsa and the next 3 coaches by now!
Like it or not football is a business.
Radz has to walk a tightrope in keeping us solvent and within spend rules while giving Bielsa the tools to do the job.
It's so easy we should club together, buy a non-league club and Mmarch all the way to the premier league in 5 years. Who's in?

14 Jan 2020 17:17:32
Cellino would not have been able to hire Bielsa as Head Coach.

14 Jan 2020 17:21:03
FFP rules again, best excuse a tightwad ever had, and total BS. No i do not want to spend over the limit but we are nowhere near it.

14 Jan 2020 17:30:05
Very good posts Bielsabud.

14 Jan 2020 17:43:57
Yours is one of my favourite profile names btw bielsabud! always makes me smile.

14 Jan 2020 17:52:02
Good to know we have accountants in the mix should make our 5 year new venture even easier haha.

14 Jan 2020 20:11:26
Spot on Notts.

14 Jan 2020 20:48:03
Corky and Grudgy George in. that case how about you actually reply to Leeds 1970 post at 1832 hrs re Radz ( lack of ) spending and accounts.

14 Jan 2020 12:26:00
Bazooka going back to your comments on our chairman Radz. When Celino palmed off Elland Road, I don’t think there were any big time buyers lining up to buy Leeds United. I think he’s done a pretty good job considering. Some fans expect way above what is realistic.

14 Jan 2020 13:26:08
Spot on OP. He’s done a great job, are we are now an attractive investment proposition. Gone are the days of looking over our shoulders at insolvency, and points deductions, and fearing whether our club will exist next week. I, for one, am certainly happy about that!

14 Jan 2020 13:34:37
OP Radz has overall done an excellent job. He's taken us to the verge of a lucrative takeover and promotion to the PL. Bazookoid's derogatory comments are illogical. However, Radz has made a number of mistakes as has Orta. Hopefully, we have a productive transfer window in the remaining 2 and half weeks but it's understandable that certain fans are nervous now.

14 Jan 2020 14:30:40
To blast Radz out of the water with no actual facts is illogical. Yes he had messed things up with D. James lat year but that wasn’t entirely his fault.
What do we know about the club finances? Yes we did make 15Mil for Woods and 5Mil for Taylor but an average club in the Championship makes a loss of approximately 25Mil a season. Don’t ask me on what, that is just a fact.
Orta however by his own admission has fluffed up more than a handful of signings, but has redeemed himself as far as I’m concerned by bringing in Bielsa.
I still think we will make the necessary signings before the end of Jan. Radz and Co. know that Bamford cannot do this alone, in fact it is illogical to think there will be no striker coming in.

14 Jan 2020 14:50:12
OP. thanks for your comment appreciated.

I refer you ( and George whose latest transfer predictions of Adams, Gayle and Brewster as usual do not happen ) to MBTN comments below which summarise it perfectly and to which I firmly concur with.

Radz on the cheap keeps making the same mistakes in 4 disastrous transfer windows and this latest window looks like being no different. but let's HOPE it can still be productive eh Georgey

Let's also HOPE that the takeover speculation of over a year is not just talk and it actually HAPPENS. but even if a buyer actually really emerges does Radz even want to sell yet re his 'in to year 3 of his 5 year owner plan'

The real danger is that given Radz talks of a 5 year plan . it's more than feasible that under Radz in the next 2 years without promotion this season and therefore without Bielsa. Super Radz will have taken Leeds back to being a mid table Championship club

. that is NOT progress eh Georgey Boy, RHC, Martyn.

14 Jan 2020 14:57:52
. and I for one will be very happy to be proved wrong . I crave and yearn for tbe best for my beloved Leeds United.

14 Jan 2020 15:33:51
Bazooka, I’m still not understanding your thoughts on Radz spending, what makes you think there are stashed away millions. Wolves took a big gamble with what was perceived a 70 odd Mil. Had they not got promoted it may have been disastrous for them. But do we really want to go down that road again.?
Let’s not forget Radz is first and foremost a businessman he doesn’t have Leeds United blood running through his viens. But like most successful businessmen they want to thrive, he will no doubt want to get Leeds into the Premiership to reap the profits, wether that will be by selling or making the club bigger himself.
I personally think he will offload when we get there, and get there we will.
Have some faith ol’ fella 👍.

14 Jan 2020 15:53:51
Bazooka agreed 100% great post.

14 Jan 2020 16:21:08
Zooks "back to being a mid table Championship club". Why you say that? Is it incumbent on the current or next owner to sabotage and go backwards? You make no sense unless you're conversing with a schizophrenic lunatic or the King of the Potato People in which case then you'd make perfect sense. Your doom and gloom predictions are supremely nonsensical. We are trying to acquire a good striker, specifically Adams and on the right terms for us. Thinking if we don't get him then everything goes bad is a touch excessive.

14 Jan 2020 16:50:43
OP. I sincerely hope you are correct with your last sentence MOT

Georgey you have been soo wrong on so many of your predictions In Georgey We Trust self important deluded BS lol . so you hold no credibility for me

Time will tell in the next 2 weeks window and then 4 months end of season promption
, then 2 years more of Radz as ti . who is ' nonsensical 'Georgey ole bean but your track record on predictions is truly abysmal that is a fact

Thanks Whiteman appreciated.

14 Jan 2020 17:30:54
Zooki My predos are mainly abysmal (save the Blades) but at least I know the game. You don't. You're simply an anagram of 14th letter of alphabet combined with the word "room".

14 Jan 2020 17:40:31
Radz is already sabotaging the club. Selling our better players, replacing with loans (who we then don't play) and refusing to invest which is in danger of scuppering this season which, if we don't go up, will leave us with no Bielsa and no players for the next manager.

14 Jan 2020 17:40:36
As I said time will tell.

14 Jan 2020 17:52:00
Spot on Alf with that scenario.

14 Jan 2020 18:52:17
Alf He's hardly sabotaged. Quite the opposite. He decided to reactivate the academy after Cellino shut it down. Radz certainly over emphasized the academy thing and to the slight detriment of the first team but it's a plan working so far.

14 Jan 2020 19:31:35
Lol Georgey you are so easy to wind up with your childish insult and tizzy tantrum. grow up.

14 Jan 2020 20:00:47
OK Hypocrite 🤣👍.

14 Jan 2020 20:15:22
Lol .

14 Jan 2020 20:19:20
George is on fire! While Cellino got us off life support he still kept us in the sick bay. Rad has turned the club around. Great youngsters and an unbelievable manager and not to mention a full house every game. That says it all imo.

14 Jan 2020 20:25:58
Lol Georgey you stated a few months ago on this forum that I had and I quote ' wound you up' when I challenged and showed you up on your inaccurate info . you still holding that grudge till now I see # George The Grudge Keeper .

14 Jan 2020 21:01:06
In that case Corky and Grudgy George why don't you reply to Leeds 1970 post at 1832 hours re Radz lack of spending and accounts.

14 Jan 2020 21:07:18
Time to “suck it up, and step back” fellas. We all only want what’s best for LUFC, but with a little less repetition maybe. ALAW?

14 Jan 2020 21:23:09
No inaccurate info Bazook. All in your limited and worthless head.

14 Jan 2020 21:52:09
Err yes actually very inaccurate
Grudgey Geirge

your post was about how we needed defenders who could defend such as Leigh Bromby, Alex Bruce, Richard Naylor etc .2011, 2012 'vintage'

. I reminded you that these such players were responsible for Leeds 4 Preston 6, Leeds 3 Nottingham Forest 7 and Leeds 0 Blackpool 5 hammerings .

You have been very touchy ever since George . bless . butnthen again you are notorious George for inaccuracies so no surprise there 😊😊.

15 Jan 2020 03:24:26
Bazhypocrite Never mentioned Bruce, didn't rate him. Referenced Bromby Naylor and Kisnorbo. Was referring to their physicality and strength in depth for squad purposes. They racked up appearances is my point whereas Casey and Struick have approximately 30 minutes between them. Hoping you will cease your bitterness.

15 Jan 2020 10:13:08
Actually Deluded Grudgy George the bitterness stems and originates from you sunshine.

14 Jan 2020 10:47:58
I know a number on here, like myself, have been wondering why Edmondson is not even getting on the bench, even though he continues to lead the line for the U23s., and a number of pundits have suggested that Bielsa does not rate him. I heard a suggestion yesterday that it is attitude rather than ability that is holding him back. Apparently Bielsa will be aware that the lad is currently not fully adhering to the healthy lifestyle which he would consider befitting of a professional athlete. If that is true, then presumably someone has had a word with the lad, and the hope is that he'll show a change in 'attitude', but until then first team opportunities won't come his way even though, contrary to pundits' suggestions, Bielsa does actually rate his abilities.

14 Jan 2020 09:00:12
Leeds, Leeds are falling apart again!

I've lost faith. Radz wants to try to do this on the cheap and not try the hardest that he can to get us up. So Leeds will get what they deserve. Adams won't join, and we'll end up with a second striker that is worse than both Roofe and Eddie were.

We should have kept Pontus and Roofe. But our board are so incompetent, they can't discuss things like adults with their best centre back and send money on keeping their best striker here. We should have made all the same signings but kep our players that got us to third last seson.

14 Jan 2020 09:23:25
Roofe ran his contract down because he wanted a new challenge we didn’t sell him. Stats show we performed worst and conceded more goals when janson was on the pitch for us. And who are all the other players we should have kept?

14 Jan 2020 09:25:04
But remember everyone. We’re not dicking about with the play offs this year! 🤡.

14 Jan 2020 10:21:28
What part of Roofe didn't run his contract down Martyn are you not understanding?
Roofe was in his last year and was sold for £6 million, he was still a Leeds player in the last year of his contract.

14 Jan 2020 11:34:39
Or lose him for nothing Chris. Let’s weight it up now £6 mill or nothing mmmmmm tough decision for a buisness man that on in it.

14 Jan 2020 11:36:45
Martyn you keep 'ramming down our throats ' the same incorrect nonsense about Roofe's contract. truly clueless.

14 Jan 2020 11:47:55
i can see what people are saying about roofe, but lose him for nothing and go up (like with did with bamford) might of been a good call. if we went up would he of stayed

pontus was as bad a sale as we have ever made. he was first choice with bartley not cooper for a reason, he is an international (cooper can't even make jock team) for a reason, he has been linked with prem for a reason and brentford have a better defensive record than us for a reason. if we don't go up i will put it largley down to losing ponuts and not replacing him (white should of been for bartley coming in for cooper not pontus)

then look at veria the muscle in midfeild we maybe needed. he is the england international how much could of MB improved him?

14 Jan 2020 11:50:19
. £ 6 million or £170 million on premiership promotion Martyn . hmm yes genius.

14 Jan 2020 11:53:02
And £3 million of that £6 million was wasted on loan for Eddie. brilliant.

14 Jan 2020 12:20:07
But yet the £35,000 a week we were paying Eddie during the loan on top of the loan fee couldn’t have gone to giving Roofe the contract he wanted.

A back three of Pontus, Cooper and White would win us this league by a country mile. Pontus was a great defender, you can be in denial all you like but there’s a reason Brentford are right on our tail.

As for other players we should have kept, there’s no reason we should have sold Pearce considering the issue at left back at the minute, as well as Halme and Wilks who would have been, if anything, decent cover. And selling Odour to me is an absolute mystery, he looked like the most likely player to break into the first team next. Fantastic dynamic driving full back.

The people that run us are far better than anything that has come before. But they are still not trying their best to get us promoted. They’re trying to do it in the cheapest way possible, squeezing every pound out of our promotion that they can.

We won’t get Adams, I doubt we’ll even get Poveda. We are falling apart again because our owners cannot be bothered to learn and act on their mistakes last year. It is a repeat of last year all over again.

14 Jan 2020 12:22:42
Hmmm let’s weigh it up now. Having two strikers now or having one striker. Hmmm tough decision for a team that wants to be promoted that on in it.

Agreed Viduka.

14 Jan 2020 13:06:56
No Martyn I am addressing your statement not the potential after effects of it,
Again you incorrectly stated roofe ran down his contract and left for free, 1 season remaining +£6 million are the facts here, not a bosman and a free transfer .

{Ed002's Note - €6M not £.}

14 Jan 2020 13:45:07
Excellent posts MBTN . you have summed it up perfectly.

14 Jan 2020 13:46:24
So you know for definite that if we had kept him we would have gone up mystic meg? You may think you can see into the future but let’s be realistic pal you can’t. It disturbs me how you can call yourself fans when all you do is pull the club to pieces. I’d be 100% behind them if they were playing Sunday league football.

14 Jan 2020 14:02:46
Your starting to get sort of personal viduka, is that the bully in you coming out? Agree with me or I’ll insult you.

14 Jan 2020 15:06:13
Lol Martyn whatever.

14 Jan 2020 16:05:25
What are our problems now Martyn? They are lack of firepower upfront and lack of cover at centre back and arguably lack of good options at left back.

These things can be, at least partially, solved with the additions of Roofe, Pontus and Pearce. But we haven’t got them because Radz is not interested in guaranteeing promotion if he is going to make a smaller profit. Always stating that’s FFP is this giant overhead when Derby can get away with having a third party pay a player’s wage. It’s all excuses to not put their hands in their pockets.

But remember Martyn, we’re not dickng about with the play offs this year.

14 Jan 2020 05:15:51
Was looking positive and couple days ago with possible incomings of Adams and proveda.
Now rumors prov talking in Italy and saints not letting Adams leave.
Hope we can get Adams over the line, needs to be sorted either way by weekend, if not for sale, move on to another, we need a quality forward.
Then would have 2 weeks for another option.
I would love Adams and also Vydra, others be Ayew, gray, Shane Long, giroud.

14 Jan 2020 08:11:20
Saint's not willing to let Adam's leave "on! oan" in this transfer window is the most telling phase I've heard reported so far. Unless we spend a decent bit of cash on him then I can't see this transfer happening. Southampton would need to replace him and the longer this keeps running on then the less chance of it happening.

14 Jan 2020 12:08:46
My guess is that both are BS and that Adams will be staying at Saints and Poveda will sign for Torino. Oh yes my other expectation is that we will end up buying no one as usual and will probably be playing Championship football again next season.